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Originally posted by flexy123
Grats for another hate filled "Anti Obama" (yawn!) posting, coming from a "religious" nu...I mean person. We never had such a thing before, really... /sarcasm
Although..i want to give you ONE point for originality because of the "brilliant" theory with your numerology. It is always smart to select potential future presidents based on the magic of numbers, which can easily be revealed by examining things as their Zipcode, name, name of their dog etc.etc.. It's a good way to make sure that your next pres will be a good one. /sarcasm
On a serious side-note, the thought that people like you might actually vote using that very same "logic" scares me.
Originally posted by marcomichael
reply to post by TTAA2012
I do not believe Obama speaks a second language now does he? Can't imagine anyone heading up the UN that can't speak another language. Seems simply wrong headed to me.
Originally posted by TTAA2012
Originally posted by Koros
reply to post by TTAA2012
What you fail to understand, however, is that Jewish and Muslim tradition means absolutely squat. Simply decreeing "Someone's father is a Muslim therefore they are a Muslim" does not make it so. For one to be a Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or "Pastafarian" requires a conscious decision on their part.
I don't like Obama, but this "he is a foreigner Muslim" crap has got to go.
The first thing a Muslim father does when a child is born - by tradition - is recite the shahada into his child's ear. It makes zero difference what you believe, or think you know, that has been the tradition going back hundreds of years.
Originally posted by marcomichael
reply to post by TTAA2012
I do not believe Obama speaks a second language now does he? Can't imagine anyone heading up the UN that can't speak another language. Seems simply wrong headed to me.
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.” New York Times
FALSANI:
What do you believe?
OBAMA:
I am a Christian.
So, I have a deep faith. So I draw from the Christian faith.
On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences.
I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10.
My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim.
And I’d say, probably, intellectually I’ve drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith.
(A patron stops and says, “Congratulations,” shakes his hand. “Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thank you.”)
So, I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.
FALSANI:
Who’s Jesus to you?
(He laughs nervously)
OBAMA:
Right.
Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.
Originally posted by ihavenoaccount
Originally posted by TTAA2012
Originally posted by Koros
reply to post by TTAA2012
What you fail to understand, however, is that Jewish and Muslim tradition means absolutely squat. Simply decreeing "Someone's father is a Muslim therefore they are a Muslim" does not make it so. For one to be a Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or "Pastafarian" requires a conscious decision on their part.
I don't like Obama, but this "he is a foreigner Muslim" crap has got to go.
The first thing a Muslim father does when a child is born - by tradition - is recite the shahada into his child's ear. It makes zero difference what you believe, or think you know, that has been the tradition going back hundreds of years.
Even if that is true... With all due respect, which dad are you referring to?
Reciting the shadada in any case won't make you a permanent Muslim, since there are scores of Muslims who renounce their faith every day. On top of that, Islam is not ethnoreligious. Judaism is, Zoroastrianism is, but Islam is not.
Originally posted by mrnotobc
I like the way you think, but obummer is too wimpy a f up to be the antichrist. He would really be a sorry one lol. But head of the un, that sounds like the kind of do nothing job he's made for. That's believeable for sure.
Originally posted by Panic2k11
reply to post by TTAA2012
For Obama to become UN Secretary general something would have to me done about the current Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon (South Korea), who was re-elected, unopposed, to a second term on 21 June 2011 (for a 3 year mandate).
edit on 3-11-2012 by Panic2k11 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheOneElectric
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Humanity, you're really letting me down.
Maybe it doesn't mean squat to YOU, but to THEM it's a reason to throw acid in that child's face should they look at a boy, or behead them should they leave Islam. What part of that is unclear to you?