Report: Islamist radicals find warm welcome in Obama White House

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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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A year long investigation has revealed that Obama has hosted a series of meetings with radical Islamic groups with ties to jihadi groups while top White House officials have had hundreds of meetings with those radicals.

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White House visitor records show that administration officials have hosted numerous White House meetings with a series of U.S.-based Muslim political groups that have close ties to jihadi groups and push to reduce anti-terrorism investigations.

Members of CAIR were invited to the White House, even though an April 2009 FBI statement said the bureau “does not view CAIR as an appropriate liaison partner” because of its ties to the Hamas jihadi group. Administration officials also invited Syrian-born Louay Safi to the White House twice in 2011, even though he had been named an unindicted co-conspirator in two terrorism cases, and had been barred from Fort Hood following the 2009 jihadi attack by a Muslim U.S. Army major.

“The White House has selectively omitted genuine [Muslim] moderates and instead has picked radical Muslims to meet,” said a statement from Steve Emerson, founder of the Investigative Project on Terrorism.

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It is thought that 75% of US Arab Muslims support Obama. 8% support Romney.

It is unclear what effect Obama's meetings with Islamic groups with ties to jihadists will have upon Muslim voting intentions.




posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 07:39 AM
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Oh god how shocking it would be if he was exposed as a "Peace Maker With Terrorist"... Though this is interesting,
Id like to see the outcome of how Mitt Romney would handle these meeting with radical Muslims..



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 07:42 AM
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AND -------------
Undercover photo capture during the secret meeting. The bald pate at the lower right of the (cropped) picture is that of Nihad Awad (see below) I am trying to locate an uncropped version of that picture plus any other photos of the event.

Pelosi [secretly] hosts fundraiser with radical Islamists


Democrats tap Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood front groups for cash


Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi headlined a high-dollar fundraiser in May that was attended by U.S.-based Islamist groups and individuals linked by the U.S. government to the Hamas jihad group and to the Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood movement.

The donors at the undisclosed May 16 event included Nihad Awad, the co-founder of the Council on American Islamic Relations, according to data provided by the nonpartisan Investigative Project on Terrorism.

The CAIR group was named an unindicted conspirator in a 2007 trial of a Hamas money-smuggling group.
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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by FeelingPure
Oh god how shocking it would be if he was exposed as a "Peace Maker With Terrorist"... Though this is interesting,
Id like to see the outcome of how Mitt Romney would handle these meeting with radical Muslims..


It is interesting.

The article and report further make the point that more moderate Muslims were not invited, although I'm not sure how true that is or whether, as you suggest, Obama was merely acting a peace maker.

It still however doesn't look good for Obama.

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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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Bare in mind that it is not uncommon for opposing leaders to meet for discussions. I'm sure Putin and JFK met up a few times at the white house during the cold war.

Not saying that I think the US government aren't snakey f**ks though. Just nothing to condemn him for yet on this subject.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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I am sure that Neville Chamberlain had visions of peace
after signing a "peace" treaty with Adolph Hitler in 1938.
We all know what the end results of those "peace" talks
were ,WW2.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by FeelingPure
Oh god how shocking it would be if he was exposed as a "Peace Maker With Terrorist"... Though this is interesting,
Id like to see the outcome of how Mitt Romney would handle these meeting with radical Muslims..


It is interesting.

The article and report further make the point that more moderate Muslims were not invited, although I'm not sure how true that is or whether, as you suggest, Obama was merely acting a peace maker.

It still however doesn't look good for Obama.

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Is this a matter of squeaky wheel getting grease or a sort of "operation paper clip".



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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I know diplomacy is difficult for Repubs to get their arms around, but yes, there are other ways to get out of conflicts besides dropping a bomb on someone.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by David9176
I know diplomacy is difficult for Repubs to get their arms around, but yes, there are other ways to get out of conflicts besides dropping a bomb on someone.


Well the dems drop thier share of bombs and the republicans are not bad at international relations.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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Well the dems drop thier share of bombs and the republicans are not bad at international relations.


I agree with the first part, but not the second. Republican neo-cons have ruined our standing with the world.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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This issue was covered in another thread. These people that were invited to the WH, and at the event with Pelosi, have worked with various government entities and presidents, including Clinton and Bush.

They were invited to meet with Bush at the 9/11 memorial and even donated money to help the OKC bombing victims.

So please, let's not start this crap again. There is no reason to be scared of the brown-skinned Muslims and they are not terrorists. How do I know that?

Because they we able to get into the WH. You think a president will just let a bunch of "extremists" walk into the WH?

I don't think so.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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Oh no way I would believe that. Not at the white house. By the way, what time is the easter bunny spozed to be there?




posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by David9176
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Well the dems drop thier share of bombs and the republicans are not bad at international relations.


I agree with the first part, but not the second. Republican neo-cons have ruined our standing with the world.


You sound like a sound bite. I spoze when dems drop bombs the reaction is diff. Oh no the dems know how to bomb in good measure and know when to stop. No, no I know what it is....the world knows that when dems drop bombs that they really dont mean anything by it and are simply misguilded......but not those blood sucking republicans.....oooohhhhh nooooo.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Logarock
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Oh no way I would believe that. Not at the white house. By the way, what time is the easter bunny spozed to be there?



You make a great point! This story and it's premise are about as real as the Easter Bunny!

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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247

So please, let's not start this crap again. There is no reason to be scared of the brown-skinned Muslims and they are not terrorists. How do I know that?


Brown-skinned Muslims? Obviously have not met many Muslims in the flesh and are working off of some sort of stereotype in your mind.

I also take it you didn't actually read the report?


IPT compared the visitors' names with lists of known radical Islamists. Among the visitors were officials representing groups which have:

• Been designated by the Department of Justice as unindicted co-conspirators in terrorist trials; Extolled Islamic terrorist groups including Hamas and Hizballah;
• Obstructed terrorist investigations by instructing their followers not to cooperate with law enforcement;
• Promoted the incendiary conspiratorial allegation that the United States is engaged in a "war against Islam"— a leading tool in recruiting Muslims to carry out acts of terror;
• Repeatedly claimed that many of the Islamic terrorists convicted since 9-11 were framed by the U.S government as part of an anti-Muslim profiling campaign.

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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 12:01 PM
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Brown-skinned Muslims? Obviously have not met many Muslims in the flesh and are working off of some sort of stereotype in your mind.


There is a mosque just down the street from my home, and they happen to make some of the best cookies I have ever had. So I think it's safe to say that I have met a few.

Unfortunately, this "report" was written to incite outrage against the "brown-skinned" Islamic people. If you dig a little bit into the background of the IPT and it's head, Steven Emerson, you will see why.

He is a shady dude that mistranslated Arabic in his books for the purpose of creating false outrage.

Former director of counterterrorism for the CIA Vincent Cannistraro:



"He's trying to say people who move to this country and set up charities and think tanks and are associated with Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah, that there's some kind of connection between them and Sept. 11, that there's a liaison or support network. He doesn't know what he's talking about."




In August 2011, the Center for American Progress produced a report, entitled, "Fear, Inc." The 129-page report listed Emerson as one of five "scholars" who act as "misinformation experts" to "generate the false facts and materials" that are then used by politicians and pundits to create a climate of fear.


This is just easy stuff that you can find on Wikipedia. I suggest you look at whom is writing this crap before you take it seriously.

As I said before, this is a non-issue, but let the outrage continue.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247

Unfortunately, this "report" was written to incite outrage against the "brown-skinned" Islamic people.


Again you try to pull the race card with your "brown-skinned" angle.


By the way, your quote by ex CIA Vincent Cannistraro attacking Emerson was from 2002



...over eighteen months before the IRS revoked the tax-exempt status of three Muslim charities, the Benevolence International Foundation, the Global Relief Foundation, and the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, because of their ties to Hamas and or Al-Qaeda.

FrontPage Magazine


ex CIA man Vincent Cannistraro got it wrong just as you are now.



In August 2011, the Center for American Progress produced a report, entitled, "Fear, Inc." The 129-page report listed Emerson as one of five "scholars" who act as "misinformation experts" to "generate the false facts and materials" that are then used by politicians and pundits to create a climate of fear.


The Center for American Progress is a left wing pressure group formed by John Podesta in 2003 who served as White House chief of staff to President William J. Clinton.

It states on its webpage


We... ...critique the policy that stems from conservative values, challenge the media to cover the issues that truly matter, and shape the national debate.

Center For American Progress

The Center for American Progress is a left wing pressure group which has produced a report called "The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America". Who would have thunk?

Islamophobia?

How come no one talks about Christophobia, Hunduphobia or Buddaphobia?

Could the difference be Islam itself?


Originally posted by sheepslayer247
There is a mosque just down the street from my home, and they happen to make some of the best cookies I have ever had. So I think it's safe to say that I have met a few.


You buy cookies from a Mosque and its full of brown skinned people? Aren't you getting it mixed up with the local Chinese restaurant?

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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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Either you are intentionally misunderstanding the "brown-skinned" comment, or you are a few fries short of a happy meal. Nice attempt in trying to turn it around on me though. It would work on someone less savvy, but at least you tried.



ex CIA man Vincent Cannistraro got it wrong just as you are now.


According to Frontpage? The websites biggest claim to fame is David Horowitz and their "Jihad Watch"! You expect a fair assessment from a website like this? And you claim my sources are biased?

*ATS: I hear-by formally request a facepalm emoticon. If you want me to watch my language, you gotta help me out here*



The Center for American Progress is a left wing pressure group formed by John Podesta in 2003 who served as White House chief of staff to President William J. Clinton. It states on its webpage


Nice way to edit that quote down. Let's post it in it's entirety for full disclosure.



The Center for American Progress is an independent nonpartisan educational institute dedicated to improving the lives of Americans through progressive ideas and action.Building on the achievements of progressive pioneers such as Teddy Roosevelt and Martin Luther King, our work addresses 21st-century challenges such as energy, national security, economic growth and opportunity, immigration, education, and health care.We develop new policy ideas, critique the policy that stems from conservative values, challenge the media to cover the issues that truly matter, and shape the national debate.Founded in 2003 by John Podesta to provide long-term leadership and support to the progressive movement, CAP is headed by Neera Tanden and based in Washington, D.C. CAP opened a Los Angeles office in 2007.




How come no one talks about Christophobia, Hunduphobia or Buddaphobia? Could the difference be Islam itself?


I don't hear large groups of people in America saying that we need to bomb Texas because of them dirty Christians or Buddhists! You do hear that about Islam and the ME.

It is a valid issue that demands attention, especially when people keep attempting to demonize Islam through propaganda pieces such as the article in the OP.



You buy cookies from a Mosque and its full of brown skinned people? Aren't you getting it mixed up with the local Chinese restaurant?


Well that's a very telling statement! On that note, I rest my case.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247

Either you are intentionally misunderstanding the "brown-skinned" comment, or you are a few fries short of a happy meal.


Nice attempt at playing the race card and then attempting to pretend that you have done nothing of the sort. Keep wriggling.



According to Frontpage? The websites biggest claim to fame is David Horowitz and their "Jihad Watch"! You expect a fair assessment from a website like this? And you claim my sources are biased?


I'm pleased that you are conceding that the IRS did revoke the tax-exempt status of three Muslim charities because of their ties to Hamas and or Al-Qaeda.

Still, full marks for attacking the source and not whether what they say is true or not.



The Center for American Progress is a left wing pressure group formed by John Podesta in 2003 who served as White House chief of staff to President William J. Clinton.


The Center for American Progress was set up by in 2003 by John Podesta, White House chief of staff to President Clinton. They, and I quote "critique the policy that stems from conservative values, challenge the media to cover the issues that truly matter, and shape the national debate."

They are a left wing pressure group who produce such gems as "The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America".

Islamophobia? Is that even a real word? It can't be. There is no equivalent for any other religion.

Christophobia, Hunduphobia or Buddaphobia? It just doesn't sound right.

Islamophobia? That's just a silly word made up by silly people.


Originally posted by sheepslayer247
It is a valid issue that demands attention, especially when people keep attempting to demonize Islam through propaganda pieces such as the article in the OP.


It is a valid issue why Obama has had so many radical Islamic groups at the White house with links to jihadi groups, as much as you would prefer people to not ask that question.


Originally posted by sheepslayer247

There is a mosque just down the street from my home, and they happen to make some of the best cookies I have ever had. So I think it's safe to say that I have met a few.


I really am intrigued. How do you buy cookies from a mosque? It's full of 'Brown skinned' people you say?



Are you absolutely certain that you don't have it mixed up with the local Chinese restaurant?


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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Nice attempt at playing the race card and then attempting to pretend that you have done nothing of the sort. Keep wriggling.


Please. If I would have said anything racist, the mods would have deleted my post. Anyone else with a knowledge of recent history and an ear for sarcasm would easily understand the context of my statement.

Of course, I know that you completely understand what I was saying, but you insist on continuing to play the "I know you are but what am I" game. I hope you are having fun, but I know what game you are playing and it won't work.



I'm pleased that you are conceding that the IRS did revoke the tax-exempt status of three Muslim charities because of their ties to Hamas and or Al-Qaeda.


I did not concede anything in my last post, but I will do so in this post. You are correct. But do you know why they were revoked their tax-exempt status?

Executive Orders 13224 and 12947...signed by Bush just after 9/11. But isn't it funny that the man that is/was connected to these groups, and has been demonized over this entire issue, was invited by Bush himself to Ground Zero in memorial?

Did you know that? That kind of makes the entire tax issue look real petty, considering that the same groups he took exemption away from were standing next to him as he honored the dead of 9/11.



Still, full marks for attacking the source and not whether what they say is true or not.


Crappy source and crappy research on your part. It's best to know what you're talking about before you engage in debate. Egg does not look good on the face.



Islamophobia? Is that even a real word? It can't be. There is no equivalent for any other religion.


I believe this is where you have completely discredited yourself. Islamophobia is a real issue that has been at the forefront of religious relations at least since 2001. Just because other religions are not demonized in the American media and in the agenda of a certain political group, does not mean that Islamophobia doesn't exist.



Islamophobia? That's just a silly word made up by silly people.


Ok. It must be a Marxist, socialist conspiracy to force the pansies within the Republican party to fear Muslims! I got it now. Parts of the Republican party have been boonschwogled by the Left to hate other people.




It is a valid issue why Obama has had so many radical Islamic groups at the White house with links to jihadi groups, as much as you would prefer people to not ask that question.


Possibly because they aren't really tied to Jihadist groups? Ever thought of that? Do you think the Secret Service is just going to allow Jihadist extremists into the White House to have audience with the President?

Come on.....common sense, please.



I really am intrigued. How do you buy cookies from a mosque?


With money. Every few months they have a bake sale.



It's full of 'Brown skinned' people you say?


I didn't say that, you did. My comment was directed towards the "Islamophobia" that thrives within the NeoCon paradigm that fears people of color. You can keep attempting to play that game, but people can see through it and I really wish you would at least bring a better plan of attack than this.



Are you absolutely certain that you don't have it mixed up with the local Chinese restaurant?


I'm pretty sure. I know the difference, but I'm sure you just see em all as scary "brown-skinned" people!

Oh crap! I said it again! I must be racist!





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