Originally posted by prophetboy12
reply to post by Koros
Man, you are so off base it isn't funny. I don't know how you can even come up with such a incredibly ignorant statement. Mother Mary ascended yet
the Catholics simply say she was assumed. They assume that she ascended into heaven. I know that she ascended. She ascended so she could help us.
The Message is bright and clear and that is you have freewill to live as God intended, and live a life full of blessings or the Great Law that was set
in place, where he has to let our own desires and creation return to us. Karma, look what has happened. Mother Mary has been trying to tell us for
years to pray to her, not worship her, but use her and her position to protect us and teach us to live in peace and harmony.
Even though there are a lot of people that come together after a tragedy, the truth is that there wouldn't be so many natural disasters if we lived
in peace and harmony.
I have seen and have said that the storms will continue with cold and snow until the hearts change. That was seven storms ago, each one getting worse
than the previous. Do not pray to the statue, pray in front of the statue as a visualization of her in heaven in all her glory. Time is running out.
Nice lecture there. But, you don't have to point out to me what Catholics believe. I was raised Catholic. I know full well how Catholics
feel about the Virgin Mary.
But, that doesn't change a single thing about what I said. The Christian god, as described in the bible, seems like little more than a petty
dictator and tyrant. All of your "the signs are there, why can't you see them" rhetoric is just that, rhetoric. It isn't based in any sort of
fact or evidence-based logic. You can believe as you want, I don't mind. But, for there to be cries of "look, a concrete statue survived, it's a
sign" is just ridiculous. It is especially ridiculous considering it ignores the fact that the statue is CONCRETE and survived along with all the
other concrete around it (did you see the retaining walls behind your blessed virgin?)
Look, I don't care what a religious person wants to believe. You can believe in the bible, in Vishnu, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I
care. I get having belief and faith, I really do. Despite evidence to the contrary, I am not an atheist. I do believe in God. However, I am a
deist and don't believe that God wastes time on little signs like you seem to believe.
However, just because I believe in God doesn't mean I believe in the Christian god. It seems, to me, that a god who allow people to die in this
hurricane, allow a woman to have her children swept right out of her arms, but would save an inanimate object is not a god that is worthy of being
honored. A god that, as you seem to argue, who sends natural disasters to Earth to punish us for not living in your Christian utopia is a god who
doesn't deserve respect. A god that demands worship doesn't deserve it.
And, honestly, arguments like the one presented in this thread sicken me. Instead of saying "how can we, as Christians, send money, food, water,
help, aid, and support to those people who are suffering in the aftermath of a hurricane," I am seeing "look, our god saved a statue, praise him!"
These types of arguments seem so incredibly self-serving on the part of the people presenting them. There are people who have lost everything,
including their families, but instead of discussing how they can be helped, we have pages of "isn't our god wonderful, he saved a statue after he
sent a storm to kill people."