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Now, while I do not doubt the existence of a nefarious group behind the scenes that are always attempting world domination, my research has shown that the symbols and signs that they use are much more ancient than any freemason organization and that their power comes from the intent of the user, not so much in the symbol it's self.
However, I have seen much propaganda lately aimed at the so-called "new age" as being agents of satan. the facts being spread are that meditation is a channel to demons, anything occult is negative and demonic, the power of positive thought is just a way to keep people docile and dumb, entheogens are a way to keep people docile and channeled to evil spirits, connecting to nature is connecting to the devil, believing in your own universal consciousness means you believe "you are god" and anyone who mentioned "the light" or "oneness" is automatically suspect of being an agent of satan. the reason being is that in Occult Sciences everything is reversed so the light really means the dark. I have been seeing this on sites that I normally visit and was surprised by this. It's not just the religious zealots who normally say this stuff.
Now I don't doubt that there is a controlled group here, there is in any sub-culture and the new age is no different. I'm not talking about the yoga fitness people that read the secret and watch oprah and think they have it all figured out. They are just followers and are not thinking for themselves. If you have not heard of Eckankar, I suggest you google it, it is scary and will be eating up people looking for spiritual guidance with no direction.
I want to ask YOU, people who belong to organizations, secret or not, and have researched and studied these things thoroughly in their lives. What do you make of this? Where is this coming from? Why now? And do you feel there is any validity in what is being said? As I pride myself in being an open minded critical thinker, I like to explore all options and challenge my beliefs, without this, there is no growth. I am sure most of you feel the same.
I am confident in my travels, these practices have brought me nothing but joy in my life but I am just a little confused by this new phenomenon and would love to know what you think about it.
If you would like an example of what I am talking about, this is a well presented lecture on youtube called "The UN and the Occult Agenda"
Some background is necessary on Chakras and the Kundalini, in order to proceed further with this expose.
In Hindu occult practice (the main root of the New Age Movement) there are 7 major centers for kundalini energy. By occult methods using meditation, drugs, visualization, yoga and whatever means necessary, initiates seek to awaken the sleeping fiery serpent (kundalini) for a "higher" state of consciousness.
This kundalini energy is visualized as an entwined serpent which rises from the base of the spine to "enlighten" and eventually dissolve the ego � to become a god incarnate, thereby preventing further incarnation on the physical plane. The New Age disciples believe in reincarnation and are taught by the demonic Hierarchy that this is the only way to stop the endless cycle of Karma � to evolve into Gods...(i.e. Gen. 3:5).
That is the goal and the techniques vary, but as one "ascends" through the 7 progressive chakras, each is an initiation unto a higher consciousness, until finally when you reach the point of union with "Sanat Kumara", "Shiva", "Vishnu", "Lord of the World" or what they most blasphemously call the "Christ Consciousness".
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-----------------------Peter Roma and the New Age-----------------------
The priests of ancient Babylon established the Grand Council of Pontiffs to consolidate their power. As with many religions, including current ones and mystery schools, there exists two levels of religon. One is for the uninitiated masses and the other is the mystery teachings for the priests and elite. The Babylonian Mysteries were concerned with the Sacred Canon of Numbers among other esoteric subjects. The Babylonian High Priest who instructed the initiates was known as a Peter, meaning the Great Interpreter. Athens later continued this tradition with the Elusinian Mysteries where candidates for initiation recieved instruction from a book known as the "Pet Roma." In Egypt, the deified Kush was known as "Ptr-Roma." (Remember Cush was later known as Hermes.)
Saint Peters feast-day was traditionally celebrated on the day when the sun entered Aquarius. Previously the day when Eannus and Janus were honored.
-----------------------Stay Tuned - More To Come-----------------------
Is Hermes, or some variation, next in line to head the Vatican? Peter Roma is not numbered and therefore not a pope, but is it also not a person? Is the Peter Roma, or Ptr-Roma, going to be a new religion for the a new age, and be based on a Hermetic Mystery religion?
Do you feel you have the right to question , share your point of view , perspective, on new age teaching, truth movement teaching, even challenge if necessary, or if things in the new age movement have been covered up, should also be addressed, on the David icke official forum, i noticed any one who did was soon locked out , though what was being asked , should have been, its now happening on face book pages , so much for freedom truth, and free speech, this is how sects and cults behave, has the new age truth movement, become more of a cult sect now,? where people no longer dare question ?
A source stated that the UN's agenda is including Navy/NASA's Blue Beam - using technological strategy and New Age to promote Benjamin Creme as the "new Messiah" or, more accurately, "Matreya". This new guy would then gain total acceptance from the world, thus, total domination over the world.
I am sorry to confirm that the data in this OP from TgSoe is correct; every bits of it, including the two serpents one must awake in one's self to achieve Illumination (or "enlightenment"). If you view it from its hinduist point of view, you could say New Age is basically a serpent-veneration religion. (For those who don't know, this "Gen. 3:5", which TgSoe is reffering to, is the part in the Bible where a serpent tells to humans that they could be gods if they followed the serpent's advices, implying that they could then worship themselves instead of their creator. )
In a rather lenghty and informative post, here ViolatoR shows how today's New Age is a rebirth of old occultism, and how it is slowly corrupting Vatican to gain power once again.
Do you feel you have the right to question , share your point of view , perspective, on new age teaching, truth movement teaching, even challenge if necessary, or if things in the new age movement have been covered up, should also be addressed, on the David icke official forum, i noticed any one who did was soon locked out , though what was being asked , should have been, its now happening on face book pages , so much for freedom truth, and free speech, this is how sects and cults behave, has the new age truth movement, become more of a cult sect now,? where people no longer dare question ?
A very good question indeed.
Seems like the Christians are becoming pretty adept at conjuring enemies to instill fear in the flock. Like refreshing the control mechanism, keeping them blind with terror of the bogeymen that they only see in their minds.
I think you're just afraid that if a Matreya DOES show up, he or she will prove that they are more capable than your beloved Jesus.
Because you're doing the EXACT SAME THING the church did to destroy paganism before stealing its remains and absorbing it into their own religion. This thread is EXACTLY how they did it.
You've been taught well, young sheep.
As for the snake - it seems you don't know the snake as well as you think you do. Anyone who is reading this, if you are interested in actually EDUCATING yourself instead of making assumptions, check out this link:
I don't trust the Vatican. Not one bit. If they had to choose between revealing the truth and retaining their influence, they would choose power over honesty. They have done it before. They will do it again. And again. And again. They will do it until their cold dead fingers are pried from the scepter of manipulation and infection - or until they are forced to flee from their utter destruction.
Any organization with that much power has a taste for it, and anyone with a taste for power will be reluctant to release it.
According to New Age, all humans have an individuality, called "ego", and this individuality is pretty demonized.
I agree that latin catholic church is creating bogeymen. But I also saw the same bogeymen in New Age too. God is replaced by "Gaia", and the Devil is replaced by the "Ego".
That's OK, because according to New Age itself, Matreya IS the new Jesus, the new Buddha, the One, the new Krishna. Matreya's coming is supposed to put all those different religions on their knees and worship him instead. So Matreya is the personification of the new Messiahs of all these different religions.
Why would I be afraid of Benjamin Creme? He's just a man, head of the international Share Corporation. He's no more godly than I am.
New Age is the New Church, which includes all these absorbed pagan religions! You think Vatican is stupid? It's still trying to dominate the world, as it did in Rome's time! So Vatican has adapted, it's replacing Old Age religion (catholism) with New Age religion, to control a New World! With Matreya at its head.
You know very well I follow no religions at all. If that hasn't been clear until now, then you skimmed my posts.
On the other hand, aren't you not, yourself, a sheep, following New Age religion with full confidence, never asking questions about it? I should be the one saying that to you. But I won't; because I, unlike some others, have manners.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a notion without accepting it."
As I am part native american, I know what the snake means in native american mythology. You link failed to report that to attempt to achieve immortality, folks would lock themselves in a room filled with poisonous snakes, and the snakes would bite the person until he died. If the person didn't died, and recovered, well it was assumed this person would never die at all.
Not unlike the contrversial suicides from Solar Temple to achieve "spiritual evolution".
Exactly. I wholeheartily agree. So, why do you trust New Age if you know New Age is Vatican's baby?
What do you think New Age/Matreya will do once this organization has a taste of power, and knowing that anyone who has a taste for power will be reluctant to release it? You think this organization, financed by the Rockefellers/Rothschilds/P2/Vatican city will be different?
I am not standing against you, AfterInfinity. I am standing against what blinds you.
You really seem to be a very smart and determined person. I, unlike others, care.
I don't recall reading about the Vatican
I read your second post.
So, when someone is trying to make you see other point of views, this someone is "wasting his time"? Interesting. It tells me alot about your open-mindedness.
Really? You don't know physics. I do. You are unaware of the Rothschild's and Rockefeller influences. I am. You don't even know that there's a difference between a "christian" and the Vatican. Not all christians agree with the Vatican, you know. A big number of the christians I met here are as opposed to the Vatican latin Church as you and me are. But you apparently wasn't informed of that. You are ready to kneel before this UN "matreya" dude, and you actually hope he'll kick Jesus's behind out. To me, that's very puzzling. And you can't even translate "seclorum" to "secular" when you read it. All you did was say "no", "not true", "snakes are OK". I mean, really. You have bring no real contribution to this thread. That's called "trolling". Either you switch to PM me when you have personal arguments, or get off this thread. If you hate my thread, if you hate the fact that people are asking questions about New Age of Aquarius, if you can't bear investigation in a CONSPIRACY site, well, stop logging in.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Your accusations, allegations, and implications are all hugely amusing, sort of like watching a child adamantly defend the existence of Santa Claus. In all honesty, I see all sorts of bias in your posts. You're not interested in finding the truth, you're interested in convincing yourself that your own beliefs are true.
And in what do you think I believe in, exactly? I keep telling you you're the one believing things, as for me, I keep telling you I don't believe in anything, I subscribe to 0 philosophies. I keep telling you you're the one ready to kneel before some UN dude even if he's paid by the Rothschilds.