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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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New Age for a New World Order.

I keep seeing brainwashed New Agers on ATS. In a site where every person has to question himself (or herself), and deny ignorance, I see some of these people blindly follow New Age religion and even promote it, like catholic church did, all over the place. To these people, I sometimes want to ask:

The fact that the full name of the religion is the New Age of Aquarius, which means to discard everything from the Pisces/Christos era, doesn't strike you as odd? The fact that the Dawn, aka the time at which the vernal point will go from Pisces to Aquarius (which is by the way an unworkable "universal" phenomenon, as this vernal point change toward Aquarius is only happening on Earth... and Earth isn't the center of the Universe - which means this "Aquarius" thing has very a very human origin), has been calculated to 2030, which is precisely the date at which the New World Order plans to dominate the complete world with a "New One Order Religion" doesn't strike you as oddly coincidental? The fact that this Vrillon message was hoaxed by MI 6, in 1977, which was ordering the ignorant people to "put their defenses down and accept the New Age of Aquarius" didn't strike you as a command more than anything? The fact that the author's name was supposedly "Astor, of the Space Command", and that the USA's military space division is named "Navy Space Command", doesn't strike you as suspicious at all? What about the fact that the military instructs the people about the Dawning age of Aquarius, but also the fact that this "Golden dawn" on top of a pyramid is also featured in DARPA's emblem (scientia is potentia - the almost exact motto of the Illuminati), and on the dollar bill, along with the motto, Novus Ordo Seclorum? That doesn't wake you up? That the accurate translation of Novus Ordo Seclorum is New Order of Paganism? Now you see why they can't wait for the Aquarius - they actually dislike the Christ and his teachings of love. But, they want to disguise as him. Doesn't the fact that the Space Command is half-Nazi, because of Paperclip, makes you hesitate before subscribing headlong into their religion? The fact that these banks, which has the Illuminati/Golden Dawn pyramid on their dollars, are owned by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers (two of a dozen of families, which have funded Hitler (Warburg link) and were good friends with the Presidents and the CIA (Harriman link) - By the way, CIA was the drug lord when in 1970 New Agers started using psyschedelic drugs), doesn't leave you with a bad gut feeling about all this? The fact that these swiss banking zionist families want to gain power over the World to make it a New Order of "reason" (which means, no freedom, just a collective consciousness) instead of "harmony", and created Marxism, doesn't bother you? Marxism is the root of communism. Atheism and materialism. Seclorum also means "atheist", you know. Ever wondered why the swatsika both appear in ancient India, but also in Nazism and New Age? Do you want to know why? Because New Age is Neonazism! The same nazism which has corrupted the Navy, its Space Command, and the politics. And as the New Age is the New Reich's baby, it will give the same explanation for the use of this hindu symbol.

I don't know about you guys, but I will never subscribe to a zionism/neonazism (New Reich/New Order) religion. I don't blame the people who didn't know that New Age was about a hitlerian New Order. But now, they are awaken to the truth. Not in some future rapture, not in when the vernal point moves to Aquarius in 2030, but today. Now is the time for a revolution - not a revolution of arms and blood, but a revolution of minds and ideas. It is time to take out the New Order brainwashing out of the people's mind and put back the free, fighting, individual souls which were there before.

I keep seeing you New Agers doing yoga. Kneeling before the One religion. Did you know one of the postures is named the Down-Dog posture? Doesn't that insult you? You don't have to be a dog, and you don't have to kneel before anything. You have the right to stand up, you have the right to take that blissful ignorance away from your eyes, you are allowed to have more profound and complex thoughts than what New Age tells you to think. On their One channel, they are even trying to seduce you through hinduism's kama sutra and tantrism, and through persian's belly dance. They are taking away your intelligence and are replacing it by sex and desires. You are becoming sex addicts.

The elite will tell you you're only animals, and must be treated as such (they often use the word "cattle"). I tell to you, and to the elite: Yes, we are part animals. But we are part something more. 4% of our DNA comes from nowhere. And do you want to know a secret I found in a Rockefeller report? This "something more" which we all have... the Elite is afraid of it. Once we cast the elite's fabricated religions away, once we stop doing like New Agers and hum "Ommmmm" all day, once we stop warring over incorrect catholic/hindu/islamic religious beliefs, then we can start hearing and seeing the truth. Sure, they have the big guns. But we don't have to believe their crap. We can even built our own technologies, as we are one hell of a private sector. They can't pass laws against defensive technologies as long as it's not use for offensive application. That means we can develop the self-sustainable energy sector. We can develop electrical shields (it's quite easy, once you have enough electricity) which vaporises bullets and other deadly projectiles by inducing high electrical heat energy. Already we have communication technology (cell phones and ipads) and the Big media is demonizing it all (I would even venture to predict that Hollywood might soon make a movie which should demonize cell phones and/or ipads - the military already voiced its concern about our capacity to communicate, so the next logical steps would be to demonize it on the big screen and pretend folks who have a cell phone will be suffering craziness or even maybe some demonic possession, I don't know).

You people keep saying something which happens to be very wise: "To unite, the people must fight a common enemy". Well, People, I present to you our common enemy to us all: Zionism/Swiss banks/New Nazism. Responsible for sparking two World Wars, directing missiles at New York, keeping our level of technology and renewable energy to low, and directly responsible for the death of millions. They escape justice just because they have money. That doesn't change that they are war criminals. They think they are good, but their success is only due to the fact they are hidden, as they actually kept using the same tactics since 1815. THEY are all nation's common enemy, hiding in a "neutral" country, Switzerland. And WE... well, we're specialised in multiple investigative fields, knowledgeable, ATSers genius. Let's put on music, start some projects, and let's rock!

Swan.
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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Taking away their intelligence and turning and turning them into sex addicts?

You do make a lot of assumptions there pal.


I'm a little tired of people telling me I am manipulated and not only what they think I believe but also what they think I should believe.

Let people believe what they wish.

I prefer not to adopt beliefs about things I have no certainty over but that is my choice.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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I do not believe anything. I see, and I compile all knowledge. It's not assumption: just turn the channel on and you'll see.


I am a real atheist.. believes litterally in Nothing.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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And I 'believe' in possibility.

You assume things about 'new agers' that are not true, that was my point.


Atheism is a belief system, you believe there is no god. That is what it means.

I just wish people would be good to one another, that's all I want.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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I keep seeing brainwashed New Agers on ATS


As a "New Ager" I can tell you for a fact that we can more easily prove our claims than you can prove yours.


The fact that the full name of the religion is the New Age of Aquarius, which means to discard everything from the Pisces/Christos era, doesn't strike you as odd?


It's not a religion. It uses quantum science to mold a philosophy.


I keep seeing you New Agers doing yoga. Kneeling before the One religion. Did you know one of the postures is named the Down-Dog posture?


Do I complain when you kneel before a television?


Doesn't that insult you? You don't have to be a dog, and you don't have to kneel before anything. You have the right to stand up, you have the right to take that blissful ignorance away from your eyes, you are allowed to have more profound and complex thoughts than what New Age tells you to think.


...said the atheist, who reduces sunsets to wavelengths and only knows the wonders than can be touched with his physical fingers.


On their One channel, they are even trying to seduce you through hinduism's kama sutra and tantrism, and through persian's belly dance. They are taking away your intelligence and are replacing it by sex and desires. You are becoming sex addicts.


This is ridiculous. I expected better than you. Mods, isn't this site supposed to deny ignorance, not promote it?



And WE... well, we're specialised in multiple investigative fields, knowledgeable, ATSers genius. Let's put on music, start some projects, and let's rock!

Swan.


By "we", you mean "me". This is entirely YOUR madness. And honestly, I have never seen a more hypocritical thread.

As much as I try not to get emotionally involved, my passion lies with quantum philosophy, and your allegations are pure crap. A lot of the evidence you provide has nothing to do with quantum philosophy or anything close to it. Talk about extrapolation.



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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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OP makes some legit points, but this also made me laugh a good amount.

Also.. could you provide sources for where the New World Order says they aim for 2030 to bring in a universal religion?



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by Threegirls
 


I do not believe anything. I see, and I compile all knowledge. It's not assumption: just turn the channel on and you'll see.


I am a real atheist.. believes litterally in Nothing.


There's no such thing as Nothing—whether you want to capitalize it or not.

I agree with some of your OP, specifically in regards to New Agers being 'brainwashed,' or rather being too quick to believe something if it appeals to their passions, but I don't see how one can control an entire population of people with some unfounded and non-demonstrable cosmic nonsense.

On ATS I would argue there are many "New Agers" who enjoy such hilarity as the law of attraction, or people who attempt to rationalize their strange beliefs by attempting to somehow obscurely connect them to quantum physics, but outside of ATS these people are hard to find and I would not be in the least bit worried.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
That the accurate translation of Novus Ordo Seclorum is New Order of Paganism

Hold on a minute. You say the above and then on ....
www.abovetopsecret.com...

you said

Anyway, I love the topic of occultism.


So is old paganism ok and the new world paganism bad ?

i don't know much because i stay away from the stuff.

i know from experience that Tarot cards, ink bowl visions are all true and allow evil spirits to talk to my negative entity thats inside me.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rapha

Originally posted by swan001
That the accurate translation of Novus Ordo Seclorum is New Order of Paganism

Hold on a minute. You say the above and then on ....
www.abovetopsecret.com...

you said

Anyway, I love the topic of occultism.


So is old paganism ok and the new world paganism bad ?

i don't know much because i stay away from the stuff.


It doesn't matter because he's wrong on all counts.

Novus Ordo Seclorum:


Encyclopedia > Novus Ordo Seclorum
Reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States
Reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States

The phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782 and printed on the back of the American dollar bill since 1935. The phrase also appears on the coat of arms of the Yale School of Management, Yale University's business school. The phrase is often mistranslated as "New World Order," but the Latin for that phrase would be Novus Ordo Mundi.


www.nationmaster.com...

Yet more ignorance. Swan, I would highly recommend that next time you go on a raging tantrum because a topic that exceeds your understanding is consistently found to be legitimate, you do your research first.

So far, your post appears to be lacking a great deal of credibility, as far as your general theme goes.
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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope

Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by Threegirls
 


I do not believe anything. I see, and I compile all knowledge. It's not assumption: just turn the channel on and you'll see.


I am a real atheist.. believes litterally in Nothing.


There's no such thing as Nothing—whether you want to capitalize it or not.

I agree with some of your OP, specifically in regards to New Agers being 'brainwashed,' or rather being too quick to believe something if it appeals to their passions, but I don't see how one can control an entire population of people with some unfounded and non-demonstrable cosmic nonsense.



They already control billions of people through the belief of
"ascension"
"spiritual awakening"
"global consciousness"
"spiritual evolution"
"the Christ consciousness"
"evolution of consciousness"
"the divinity within"
"dimensional uplift"
"transhuminism"
"enlightenment"

....Hinduism, New Age, Freemasonry, Shiite Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, occultism etc. ALL look to science and technology, in varied forms, to provide that "change".

The fact is, this whole idea has been given to us by the spirit world, almost without exception. All place man as divine....man as a god.

Jesus said that it will be as it was. Those beliefs already control billions, and those beliefs have suckered the descendants of Christian forefathers. Satan was released for his short season, so the fact that all of these dogmas and doctrines derive from channeled messages and ascended masters is no coincidence. These people will kill those who descent. Read their literature.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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seclorum also means sect, or religion. so we can also translate "novus ordo seclorum" as new order of sect or something like this. and why Swan called that "new order of paganism", it is not so wrong. so when there were big monotheistic religions already, then what could a new sect mean.
"new order of paganism" can also be an interpretation of "novus ordo seclorum".
you can check the meaning of seclorum by google translator simply ! unfortunately I could not find any other sources ! so I consider that right unless it turns out that Goolge translator is translating wrong.

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I am sure a worldwide empire needs a worldwide Ideology. Humanism can not answer this need. people are inclined to metaphysical ideologies, so their new empire needs to replace Humanism to something that has some metaphysical characteristics. something like an artificial religion, a mimic of nowadays monotheistic religions. for example Buddhism or Kabbalah !
but it is interesting that they fear from real monotheistic religions so from one side they use their power to corrupt such Ideologies and from the other side they claim that such Ideologies are corrupted ! then they advise the tired people from materialism to go after Buddhism or Kabbalah !
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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by WhoKnows100

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope

Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by Threegirls
 


I do not believe anything. I see, and I compile all knowledge. It's not assumption: just turn the channel on and you'll see.


I am a real atheist.. believes litterally in Nothing.


There's no such thing as Nothing—whether you want to capitalize it or not.

I agree with some of your OP, specifically in regards to New Agers being 'brainwashed,' or rather being too quick to believe something if it appeals to their passions, but I don't see how one can control an entire population of people with some unfounded and non-demonstrable cosmic nonsense.



They already control billions of people through the belief of
"ascension"
"spiritual awakening"
"global consciousness"
"spiritual evolution"
"the Christ consciousness"
"evolution of consciousness"
"the divinity within"
"dimensional uplift"
"transhuminism"
"enlightenment"

....Hinduism, New Age, Freemasonry, Shiite Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, occultism etc. ALL look to science and technology, in varied forms, to provide that "change".

The fact is, this whole idea has been given to us by the spirit world, almost without exception. All place man as divine....man as a god.

Jesus said that it will be as it was. Those beliefs already control billions, and those beliefs have suckered the descendants of Christian forefathers. Satan was released for his short season, so the fact that all of these dogmas and doctrines derive from channeled messages and ascended masters is no coincidence. These people will kill those who descent. Read their literature.


I think your examples are only telling signs that Christianity is losing its once firm grasp on the masses. "Those beliefs" are merely an exaggeration of other beliefs. Sadly, nothing new is being preached here. The Ascension? Ripped off from the ascension of Christ or the rapture. The divinity within? A parody of the eternal soul. Spiritual evolution? Nothing at all to worry about.

Religiosity is not failing—indeed even atheists are at fault—but new idols are being thrown around as if they were candy at a parade.

I do agree however that if they are anything like a monotheistic adherent, they would rather kill than witness someone else not believe as they do.



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posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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It's not a religion. It uses quantum science to mold a philosophy.

That's another thing. As a physicist, I know when something's wrong. Quantum THEORY (it's a theory, not a science - science is when you report factual data, thus "scientia", which is latin for "knowledge") was created to attempt to predict particle behaviour at the subatomic level. It was the first theory to do so. Which means, it is not quite perfect. Sure, it predicts subatomic particles behaviour, but some of its components (like the Schrodinger cat) are today considered as obsolete (even Einstein argued against quantum theory, but you probably wouldn't care about his arguments), as they were the result of misconceptions in the 50's. And the reason why new theories keep being proposed, is becauce anything above the quantum level, aka bigger than a subatomic particle, stops following the Quantum theory's prediction. And, just to top it off, Quantum Theory is having a hard time predicting gravitation.

I can go in further details if you like.


Do I complain when you kneel before a television?

Uh... Actually, I watch it either sitting (as I eat) or standing up (when I do other things at the same time). Hardly anyone ever bends a knee (or both knees) unto the ground (in my country, at least) to watch Fox News. You see, we have chairs.



On their One channel, they are even trying to seduce you through hinduism's kama sutra and tantrism, and through persian's belly dance. They are taking away your intelligence and are replacing it by sex and desires. You are becoming sex addicts.



This is ridiculous. I expected better than you.

You "expected better than" me? What does that mean? Is there a competition going on about "expectations". lol


Mods, isn't this site supposed to deny ignorance, not promote it?


You talk about the mods... Well, that's how they describe the forum in which I posted my thread:


New World Order: This forum is dedicated to the discussion of the emerging concept of a New World Order (...) Members who would seek to refute such theories should be mindful of AboveTopSecret.com's tradition of focusing on conspiracy theory, cover-ups, and scandals.


Sorry, but I have the right to doubt New Age religion's ideologies and link it to the New World Order.


A lot of the evidence you provide has nothing to do with quantum philosophy or anything close to it. Talk about extrapolation.

Uh... again, it's the Quantum "Theory", not "philosophy". You should really pick up a book of physics some day, not just watch new-agey videos of people who bends the Theory so that it fits their desires, their ignorance, or the latest Hollywood movie. It's really not hard, to begin, I can direct you to some good books from Stephen Hawkins, or Leonnard Susskind, if you want...


It doesn't matter because he's wrong on all counts.

Novus Ordo Seclorum:

The phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages")

Nope, Seclorum is latin for "Secular". Which means, "not sacred", "pagan".


a topic that exceeds your understanding is consistently found to be legitimate, you do your research first.

So far, your post appears to be lacking a great deal of credibility, as far as your general theme goes.

I think I know exactly what I'm talking about, as I was a new ager until a couple of years ago. In fact, I am seeing this exact lack of credibility in your own post rather than mine. You are subscribing to a fabricated philosophy which hardly grants you access to the truth - which is probably not from any human fabrication - , you deny latin translations, you forget the definition of ATS's forums, you are using old outdated physics concepts, and, well, you are constantly defensive each time I post something which could contradict your belief system.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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There's no such thing as Nothing—whether you want to capitalize it or not.

By that I mean I believe in no system of belief, may it be religious or atheist, as I see flaws in each of them.


but I don't see how one can control an entire population of people with some unfounded and non-demonstrable cosmic nonsense.

Well... give it a good media coverage, and people would believe anything, especially as this New Age thing claims it is "backed by quantum theory". Common people can't tell what's non-demonstrable and what is.



On ATS I would argue there are many "New Agers" who enjoy such hilarity as the law of attraction, or people who attempt to rationalize their strange beliefs by attempting to somehow obscurely connect them to quantum physics, but outside of ATS these people are hard to find and I would not be in the least bit worried.

In fact, ATS's new age community comes from the outside. I keep seeing new age colonize internet. For instance, there is a new age "philosophy", out there, called the "quantum buddhism"... and more and more people subscribe, because they just don't know, they just think that if it has "buddha" and "quantum" in the same name, then it must be great. That ignorance is spreading. That's why I wrote the OP, to disrupt that ignorance.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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you said

Anyway, I love the topic of occultism.



So is old paganism ok and the new world paganism bad ?

lol Uh... read closer, mate. I said I loved reading more about occultism... but I certainly didn't said I would subscribe to it.
You get what I mean?


I agree with you, that kind of thing can be very dangerous. Instable is the word which pops in my mind. Teaching that to ignorant people on ATS was not a very smart move, especially with the rise of atheism, and the rise of the number of souls which are lost.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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I am sure a worldwide empire needs a worldwide Ideology. Humanism can not answer this need. people are inclined to metaphysical ideologies, so their new empire needs to replace Humanism to something that has some metaphysical characteristics. something like an artificial religion, a mimic of nowadays monotheistic religions. for example Buddhism or Kabbalah !
but it is interesting that they fear from real monotheistic religions so from one side they use their power to corrupt such Ideologies and from the other side they claim that such Ideologies are corrupted ! then they advise the tired people from materialism to go after Buddhism or Kabbalah !

Yes, mankind needs a new Ideology... but an Ideology which is truly unbiased.

The fact that, as you said, "they" are creating a shear, that is, a two-way force to induce people into metaphysical belief systems, is truly the mark of a control behind these two forces, as (read well) it is using the same strategy than with stocks sales in finances. It is a way to, with one hand, turn people away one direction, and, with the other hand, turn the people toward the revised direction.

In 1815 Napoleon was waging a war against UK. Rothschild family wanted to get rich; so they put intelligence officers near Napoleon. Once Napoleon was about to lose the war, Rothschild was informed and started selling all its stocks on the market. The rest of UK thought Rothschild's move meant that Napoleon won the war. So they followed, and sold their stocks too. But when the news reached UK, and everyone realized Napoleon was in fact defeated, Rothschild could buy back all those stocks at a very low price. The result was that the Rothschild's family's initial fortune was multiplied by 6,500.

Now they use the same trick with ideology. They sold monotheism... the next move should then be pretty predictable, and along the lines of your last sentence in my quote.



posted on Nov, 3 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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You have spent so much time on this conspiracy site, you are seeing conspiracies in your cheerios. Take a break, friend. Unplug for a while. All this paranoia and psychosis isn't good for you, it seems.



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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I understand some of you might think I have no reasons to suspect New Age religion as being NWO's religion. Some were very incomfortable with this thread and some even suggested me to get silent for a while. But... I am not the only one to expose the things which I wrote in my Original Post. Many of us have strong reasons to suspect New Age as being a new agenda from the NWO.

A quick search in ATS yielded an impressive quantity of results - different ATS members, all having the same bad feeling about New Age, and some of them ATSers go pretty deep in the New Age religion. Alot of them feel the same way I do: New Age of Aquarius religion could very well be the New World Order's One Religion, meant to control masses.

These are other OPs, from various ATS members:

ATS member wrdwzrd:

Now, while I do not doubt the existence of a nefarious group behind the scenes that are always attempting world domination, my research has shown that the symbols and signs that they use are much more ancient than any freemason organization and that their power comes from the intent of the user, not so much in the symbol it's self.

However, I have seen much propaganda lately aimed at the so-called "new age" as being agents of satan. the facts being spread are that meditation is a channel to demons, anything occult is negative and demonic, the power of positive thought is just a way to keep people docile and dumb, entheogens are a way to keep people docile and channeled to evil spirits, connecting to nature is connecting to the devil, believing in your own universal consciousness means you believe "you are god" and anyone who mentioned "the light" or "oneness" is automatically suspect of being an agent of satan. the reason being is that in Occult Sciences everything is reversed so the light really means the dark. I have been seeing this on sites that I normally visit and was surprised by this. It's not just the religious zealots who normally say this stuff.

Now I don't doubt that there is a controlled group here, there is in any sub-culture and the new age is no different. I'm not talking about the yoga fitness people that read the secret and watch oprah and think they have it all figured out. They are just followers and are not thinking for themselves. If you have not heard of Eckankar, I suggest you google it, it is scary and will be eating up people looking for spiritual guidance with no direction.

I want to ask YOU, people who belong to organizations, secret or not, and have researched and studied these things thoroughly in their lives. What do you make of this? Where is this coming from? Why now? And do you feel there is any validity in what is being said? As I pride myself in being an open minded critical thinker, I like to explore all options and challenge my beliefs, without this, there is no growth. I am sure most of you feel the same.

I am confident in my travels, these practices have brought me nothing but joy in my life but I am just a little confused by this new phenomenon and would love to know what you think about it.

If you would like an example of what I am talking about, this is a well presented lecture on youtube called "The UN and the Occult Agenda"

A source stated that the UN's agenda is including Navy/NASA's Blue Beam - using technological strategy and New Age to promote Benjamin Creme as the "new Messiah" or, more accurately, "Matreya". This new guy would then gain total acceptance from the world, thus, total domination over the world.


ATS member TgSoe:

Some background is necessary on Chakras and the Kundalini, in order to proceed further with this expose.

In Hindu occult practice (the main root of the New Age Movement) there are 7 major centers for kundalini energy. By occult methods using meditation, drugs, visualization, yoga and whatever means necessary, initiates seek to awaken the sleeping fiery serpent (kundalini) for a "higher" state of consciousness.

This kundalini energy is visualized as an entwined serpent which rises from the base of the spine to "enlighten" and eventually dissolve the ego � to become a god incarnate, thereby preventing further incarnation on the physical plane. The New Age disciples believe in reincarnation and are taught by the demonic Hierarchy that this is the only way to stop the endless cycle of Karma � to evolve into Gods...(i.e. Gen. 3:5).

That is the goal and the techniques vary, but as one "ascends" through the 7 progressive chakras, each is an initiation unto a higher consciousness, until finally when you reach the point of union with "Sanat Kumara", "Shiva", "Vishnu", "Lord of the World" or what they most blasphemously call the "Christ Consciousness".

I am sorry to confirm that the data in this OP from TgSoe is correct; every bits of it, including the two serpents one must awake in one's self to achieve Illumination (or "enlightenment"). If you view it from its hinduist point of view, you could say New Age is basically a serpent-veneration religion. (For those who don't know, this "Gen. 3:5", which TgSoe is reffering to, is the part in the Bible where a serpent tells to humans that they could be gods if they followed the serpent's advices, implying that they could then worship themselves instead of their creator. )


ATS member ViolatoR:

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-----------------------Peter Roma and the New Age-----------------------

The priests of ancient Babylon established the Grand Council of Pontiffs to consolidate their power. As with many religions, including current ones and mystery schools, there exists two levels of religon. One is for the uninitiated masses and the other is the mystery teachings for the priests and elite. The Babylonian Mysteries were concerned with the Sacred Canon of Numbers among other esoteric subjects. The Babylonian High Priest who instructed the initiates was known as a Peter, meaning the Great Interpreter. Athens later continued this tradition with the Elusinian Mysteries where candidates for initiation recieved instruction from a book known as the "Pet Roma." In Egypt, the deified Kush was known as "Ptr-Roma." (Remember Cush was later known as Hermes.)

Saint Peters feast-day was traditionally celebrated on the day when the sun entered Aquarius. Previously the day when Eannus and Janus were honored.

-----------------------Stay Tuned - More To Come-----------------------

Is Hermes, or some variation, next in line to head the Vatican? Peter Roma is not numbered and therefore not a pope, but is it also not a person? Is the Peter Roma, or Ptr-Roma, going to be a new religion for the a new age, and be based on a Hermetic Mystery religion?

In a rather lenghty and informative post, here ViolatoR shows how today's New Age is a rebirth of old occultism, and how it is slowly corrupting Vatican to gain power once again.

ATS member Naturedwarfflex:

Do you feel you have the right to question , share your point of view , perspective, on new age teaching, truth movement teaching, even challenge if necessary, or if things in the new age movement have been covered up, should also be addressed, on the David icke official forum, i noticed any one who did was soon locked out , though what was being asked , should have been, its now happening on face book pages , so much for freedom truth, and free speech, this is how sects and cults behave, has the new age truth movement, become more of a cult sect now,? where people no longer dare question ?

A very good question indeed.

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Okay, gotta go now,

Peace,

Swan.





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