The work of Milan R. Pavlovic about Relativity, page 1


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Topic started on 2-11-2012 @ 06:15 AM by RationalDespair
I would like to bring to your attention the work of a Serbian electro-engineer by the name of Milan R. Pavlovic. I did a search on ATS, but could not find his name or work ever mentioned, so I figured I would do him some justice.

Mr. Pavlovic wrote a paper in 1994 entitled "Einstein´s Theory of Relativity: Scientific Theory or Illusion?" He has revised the paper since then, with major revisions in 1997 and 2000.

Now before you stop reading and scream "pseudoscience!", I would like to you continue reading and preferrably read the paper itself. This is not some freak claiming he is in contact with aliens or on a astral plane, but a proper scientist who dares to criticize the mainstream science program and thinks outside the confined "accepted norm."


Milan R. Pavlovic was born in 1931 at the village of Krusevica in Yugoslavia. He graduated from the Electro-technical Faculty of Belgrade University. He spent his working life in the research, development and testing of military equipment in the fields of telecommunications, electrooptic tank and artillery fire control systems, laser and nuclear engineering.


In the paper, Pavlovic takes a critical look at Einstein´s published papers on Relativity and related matter, and analyzes it in detail mathematically as well as theoretically. Even though the paper is quite technical with a lot of mathematics and complex physics involved, it´s still not too hard to follow what he is explaining. He deals with every principle of the Theory of Relativity in turn and shows how it either is flawed mathematically or contradicts another principle of the same theory.

Excerpt from the paper:

This book originated in such circumstances, where I dared to, among other things, take a critical approach to Einstein's treatment of space and time, because they are the base not only of relativity theory but of physics generally. It is suggested, and I hope proved that the explanation of the result of Michelson's measurement with regard to the ether was wrong, that Lorentz hypothesis about the contraction of bodies due to motion through the ether was wrong, that Einstein's hypothesis about the contraction of bodies as a real physical process caused only by motion is wrong too, that Einstein's interpretations of Fizeau's experimental results were wrong, that Einstein's definition and interpretation of the contraction of space and the dilatation of time is wrong, that Einstein's definition and use of his theorem on the addition of speeds is wrong, that the relativistic way of defining the Doppler effect is wrong and that it is hard to maintain Einstein's claim that the velocity of light is the maximum velocity in nature.


Pavlovic is most definitely not the first one to doubt Einstein´s genius and the validity of his work, and he argues that Einstein is glorified in scientific circles against better knowing.

His proofs appear solid and mathematically sound, and may expose the flaws in the reasoning of Einstein, as well as his limited understanding of Lorentz transformations or arguably his improper implementation of them, intentional or not. Furthermore, he explains how E = mc² is not a relativistic but classical formula, well known before Einstein´s time, and how Einstein incorrectly derived this formula using relativity to support his own theories. I think the beauty of this paper lies in the fact that Pavlovic is able to correct Einstein´s formulas and explain all the experiments that were used as an example of proof for relativity without the use of relativity, with better correlating results.

The paper can be found at
Pavlovic´s website, but unfortunately only in HTML format.

I invite you to read it first and then comment on it here. I would suggest reading at least the first 20 chapters (they are mostly very short chapters, don´t worry) before you reach any conclusions.
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reply posted on 2-11-2012 @ 07:07 AM by RationalDespair
reply to post by alfa1



These are exactly the kind of responses I was afraid of.

He indeed means Special, but with that debunked, nothing much of General remains.

If you consider it to be a "cranks book" from the start, then this is not really for you. Science cannot progress in the right direction when alternative ideas are not taken into account anymore and established, controversial theories are no longer subject of scrutiny. This is the main problem in science today, and you are only confirming the mainstream thought.

This is not just any paper without justification or just some random pseudo-science. As I explained in the OP, this is a very well constructed argument against the principles of relativity and it also explains why every "proof" of relativity can also be explained without it, providing the correct mathematics, not just claiming so.

GPS is said to depend on relativity to compensate for different clock speeds. In fact, the Lorentz transformations are used, which were not Einstein´s, but Lorentz´, as the name implies. Einstein used these transformations incorrectly to fit his theory. If GPS really used the formulas as proposed by Einstein, they would be inaccurate and it can be proven. (See chapter 18 of the paper). The problem here is that the clock speeds are indeed different and that is therefore automatically related to the Theories of Relativity, when in reality the idea is confirmed, but the mathematics are different. I.e., a bad case of hear-say.



reply posted on 2-11-2012 @ 05:35 PM by TrueBrit
reply to post by RationalDespair



Can I make a suggestion? Why not summarise the main elements of the arguement, rather than prattle about time pieces? Might improve the thread, and the subsequent conversation somewhat?


reply posted on 3-11-2012 @ 02:59 PM by XPLodER
reply to post by RationalDespair


GPS is said to depend on relativity to compensate for different clock speeds. In fact, the Lorentz transformations are used, which were not Einstein´s, but Lorentz´, as the name implies. Einstein used these transformations incorrectly to fit his theory. If GPS really used the formulas as proposed by Einstein, they would be inaccurate and it can be proven. (See chapter 18 of the paper). The problem here is that the clock speeds are indeed different and that is therefore automatically related to the Theories of Relativity, when in reality the idea is confirmed, but the mathematics are different. I.e., a bad case of hear-say.


i too have read on gps and lorentz transforms,
and have come to a similar conclusion,

will write more when i come back

brb

xploder
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