Transgender woman told to leave women’s locker room

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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:25 AM
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Me watching a Clint Eastwood movie when I'm the tender age of say...8 or 9, is not even comparable to a grown "woman" prancing around in front of me with an exposed penis....smh....




posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by nikkinichole90
Why is it that when an older man is naked around the opposite sex he's considered perverse individaul?!
If it were a woman there wouldn't be a problem until the 17 year old found out she was some sort of "lesbian" and thought she was checking her out!



Because women don't have penises....still struggling to see why anyone is struggling...



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by nikkinichole90
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Other people do have rights, you are right about that. I agree that said person does have male parts, but I think in her mind she is a woman. A body is only a shell and a mere fraction of what makes someone male, or female. What right does anyone have to tell her she's not or make her feel uncomfortable by making her go to a different room where she isn't comfortable going?!


Here's a girl who quoted on the subject.



I am a captain of the swim team at Capital High School (one of the swim teams that practices at the college) I personally do not have any issue with the woman being in our locker room so to generalize that the "girls are uncomfortable" is not true. I feel this woman has just as much of a right to be there than anyone else and am annoyed how out of control this has gotten.


No. A penis/vagina are what make someone a male or female. Jesus H. Christ...



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by nikkinichole90
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Why don't you learn some common sense. just because you have a penis sure as hell does not make you a man!
Who said anything about him harrasing anyone, I sure as hell did not read that in the article!


Having a dick is the ONLY thing that makes a person a man.....if we are being literal and we leave out semantics and word games and rehtoric and bull#...



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by nikkinichole90
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No! On the contrary, I think SHE was being harrassed


S 240.31 Aggravated harassment in the first degree.




A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the first degree when with intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm another person, because of a belief or perception regarding such person`s race, color, national origin, ancestry, gender, religion, religious practice, age, disability or sexual orientation, regardless of whether the belief or perception is correct
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She couldn't be harassed. Because she has a penis. So she is a he. In a she's locker room.....



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by nikkinichole90
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I'll have to agree to disagree with you Sir! My definitions of what a man is obvioulsy differs from yours. Being a male doesn't make you a man.
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Yes. It does.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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If anyone supports this guy/girl...You're surely out of your damn mind. The article said some girls were as young as 6 years old. He needs to get locked up for that.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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If you're physically a guy why would you go into the women's locker room? It sounds like some creepy old dude just wanting to see naked chicks to me.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 03:42 AM
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Well according to chromosomes.

XX = Female
XY = Male

you can butcher your body all you wish but you won't be able to change this.


I don't care if this person is gay, transgender, mentally ill, mentally sound, perfectly normal or whatever, but when you go out and do things that are considered to be a sexual predator activities don't expect me to defend you or give a crap about you. 45 yr old man, naked around underage girls, CHILDREN.

He should be brought up on sexual offender charges. This person knew what they were doing, don't play the devil's advocate just for the sake of an argument. sheesh. If it was a straight man I would feel the same exact way, and I have a feeling some of the defenders would be calling for his head. Am I right?

Or do we have some pedo-friendly folks here?



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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You said it yourself, "A 45 year old man". He's transgendered mentally, but physically he is still a man. Of course he shouldn't be in a woman's locker room. I'm sure its difficult for him, but he just has to accept it that physically he is a man and adhere to the norm.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:04 AM
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Laughing at the exaggerations and the controversy;


I am a captain of the swim team at Capital High School (one of the swim teams that practices at the college) I personally do not have any issue with the woman being in our locker room so to generalize that the "girls are uncomfortable" is not true. I feel this woman has just as much of a right to be there than anyone else and am annoyed how out of control this has gotten.


www.kirotv.com...

Colleen Francis is a student at Evergreen College where the incident in question occurred. Yes, she is transgendered. She has every right to use the adult campus facilities as she is the college student. Young woman who complained is a 17 year old high school student. Since the incident, high school students are using the smaller locker room.

"There’s a smaller locker room next to the main locker room at the pool, and they (the swim teams) have been using that,” said Ryan Betz, a spokesman for the Olympia School District.

Hate to point out the obvious, but at 17 the young woman probably knows what a penis looks like.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:08 AM
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Six year old girls don't attend Evergreen College. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:11 AM
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Support her completely; but then again, I actually put some time into researching the issue.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:15 AM
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Not unless you smoke unfiltered cigarettes, drink tequila straight from the bottle, and engage in lots of unprotected promiscuous sex. Otherwise you are just a girly man regardless of the shape of your genitalia.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:18 AM
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I'd agree that until he transitions fully, flashing fully formed male genitalia at females should be treated according to how such instances are treated for everyone else with that equipment.

I'm not sure about all US states, but I think it would be a crime in most places.

I'm reminded of a case at an upper class Atlanta golf club earlier this year, where drunken male golfers urinated in front of a female caddie, and the resulting outrage mentioned that this was a crime (although I'm not sure anybody was actually charged).
articles.nydailynews.com...

The trans-person should have shown some tact and lady-like propriety, and changed in a stall, or should have at least discussed the issue with the other young women.
Attitudes to nudity can change over time and according to place, but here it was clearly invading the privacy of the young women.

In SA there's been some radio discussion about incidences of girls (aged up to 8-12) entering the men's locker rooms at gyms with their fathers, and while this may be acceptable in some European countries, it certainly raises eyebrows here, and some of these fathers don't take kindly to any criticism either.
I think this is also unacceptable, although female propriety has been more sacrosanct historically, it should cut both ways.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Rastus3663
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Support her completely; but then again, I actually put some time into researching the issue.


Well if that's the case then I suppose 16 year old girls should make us take the incident lightly?

It doesn't matter how old they are, it's a college, He's broken the code of conduct and he should be punished.



posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:37 AM
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If he still has a penis. He shouldn't be in there and enough with his rights, what about the young girls? He should be escorted off to jail, the same way any other man doing this would be. He is still a he until he fully transforms. The name change, lipstick and the wig. just doesn't cut it.

I thought the idea of doing this was so you could change into a woman's body so you may live as one, and nobody knows, hence the name changes, but he thinks its ok to start testing it out before its completed, where its completely obvious. He can't have it both ways. No pun intended.
I guess I don't understand it.

He's an exhibitionist plain and simple.

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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:42 AM
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posted on Nov, 2 2012 @ 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by Rastus3663
reply to post by mademyself1984
 

Not unless you smoke unfiltered cigarettes, drink tequila straight from the bottle, and engage in lots of unprotected promiscuous sex. Otherwise you are just a girly man regardless of the shape of your genitalia.



Women can smoke unfiltered cigarettes, drink tequila straight from the bottle and engage in lots of unprotected promiscuous sex. That doesn't change the fact that they are women. The deciding factor being their VAGINAS...I've smoked unfiltered cigarettes, I've drank tequila straight from a bottle, and I've had a fair amount of unprotected and promiscuous sex. The only thing about any of it that made me a man, was the part where in order to have sex, I had to use my PENIS....because men have PENISES. Jesus....can people stop with the "gender" is a "feeling" #? Do you realize how stupid, insane and unreasonable that argument is/sounds? It simply isn't, it simply never has been, and it simply never could be true....





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