Transgender woman told to leave women’s locker room

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

I am simply not attracted to anything male outside of myself.

That's simply not possible. All humans possess the ability to be attracted to either sex. Your insistence otherwise is heterocentric. It is simply blithely saying "oh, I don't feel that way", in such an insistent way that t sounds like you might harbor an actual aversion to the thought. Have you ever watched gay porn?? If you were left in a room for 4 days with nothing but gay porn to watch, you would begin developing feelings. Trust me. Or rather, as the oracle of delphi said "know thyself". Know that you can do it too! It's in you to like more than your own physical anatomy. You can like other men's as well!

There is a difference between appreciating someones form and being attracted to it. I can look at say a swimmer and think, like art, the person is well formed..something I would want to make myself into. Seeing well ripped muscles will make me consider myself...but again, appreciation is not sexual attraction. To suggest they are is a way you personally see it.
You make the mistake that you are attemting to point out..broad brushes and such. You assume that perhaps since you see things a certain way, everyone does. This is psychology fail.
I dont judge others and their attractions verses appreciations.
Another example. I don't like country music. ok, this isn't the same because I could eventually force myself to start enjoying parts of it, however, if I did like country music, I couldn't state that everyone likes some parts of it even if they pretend not to. Tastes don't work that way. You cannot demand someone must like some of it because many do.
However, someone may be able to appreciatre someone whom does it well, even if they think the music sucks. Johnny Cash one could say does amazing country rock with folk overtones...doesn't mean everyone will like it, but he does capture the look and feel perfectly.
bad example, but you get the jist, your clever enough.

I am simply straight. a gay person is simply gay

Those are such conditioned views! A gay men may have a propensity towards attraction to males, but he could if he too used active imagination, develop heterosexual feelings. You too, if you simply got over this deeply ingrained prejudice towards heterosexuality, find in yourself a lustful desire for cock-a-doodle doos.

edit on 3-11-2012 by dontreally because: (no reason given)

And again, you paint with broad brushes. I said that ultimately as a simple acceptance of a persons statement. I also said I don't delve deeply into philosophical or psychological debates with such a person. My honest view of such statements are as followed:
Gay people are attracted to men, which biologically doesn't progress the species, so it is a bit unnatural on that respect, which then makes me wonder how a persons preference can desire something that is not progressing a basic reproductive agenda all biology has.

To me, this points to one of two possible hypothesis's. 1) either the homosexual person is different neurologically speaking, or 2) tastes can override biological imperatives.

Both of which seem to not be part of my makeup.

You suggest I am 3 steps away from being homophobic.
I would suggest you are 1 step away from being hetrophobic (not saying your gay mind you. I dont know/care, just judging your inability to consider someone being hetrosexual without there being conditions)

Frankly, there's nothing wrong with not being a fan of every damn subclass of the human race. We can't all love gays or minorities or kids.

Show some backbone.

For the 10th time, dicks have no place in the women's locker room.

Originally posted by lynn112
Also, to the person who said that dad's take their daughters into the mens restroom, did you also notice the dad's do a quick look to see if anyone was using the urinals & if there is, a hand gets planted over the little girls eyes? Not an issue for mom's with little boys since the stalls are seperate in the womans restroom.

If this is directed at me, no, in my 31 years alive, coming close to 32, I have never seen that a dad covers his child's eyes in taking a child into the public restroom.
But then again I'm in California, perhaps it's different in other states, and I don't linger long on who is coming into the restroom when I am using the facilities.
Which is kinda the point.
Here, there is an individual being lawful, to public outrage, but being supported by individuals who were present during the non-incident.

Why does it always turn into "I'm a homophobe" for being straight and thinking homosexuals are disgusting?

Originally posted by mademyself1984
Why does it always turn into "I'm a homophobe" for being straight and thinking homosexuals are disgusting?

I don't know? Probably because calling you a close-minded idiot isn't PC. Homophobe sounds a lot nicer

reply to post by MidnightSunshine

So someone who disagrees with you is automatically an idiot?

You're an idiot.

reply to post by PrplHrt


I never stated my views for anyone to agree with?
I didn't call anyone names.
The question was posed..."Why do they call me homophobe"
I answered with what I imagine 'they' are really thinking.
You can call me an idiot if it makes you feel better...No love loss here

You average 100 posts per year, I'm touched you used one of them to call me an idiot!! Sweet

Good God, why is this thread still around?

They kicked a dude out of the women's locker room. It happens all the time. Very few places have co-ed locker rooms.

Male genitalia = dude, regardless of how he thinks he sees himself, or how he dresses.

If it was this easy, every high school boy I ever knew would be wearing skirts to school and taking the women's gym class just to get a peak at the girls!

Originally posted by MidnightSunshine

Originally posted by mademyself1984
Why does it always turn into "I'm a homophobe" for being straight and thinking homosexuals are disgusting?

I don't know? Probably because calling you a close-minded idiot isn't PC. Homophobe sounds a lot nicer

I'm not closed minded. I'm what most people would consider normal. Homosexuality is not normal. Again...why is it hate speech for me to say the homosexual lifestyle is disgusting?

reply to post by MidnightSunshine

Ask yourself where I might have been for five years other than prison.

Originally posted by mademyself1984

Originally posted by MidnightSunshine

Originally posted by mademyself1984
Why does it always turn into "I'm a homophobe" for being straight and thinking homosexuals are disgusting?

I don't know? Probably because calling you a close-minded idiot isn't PC. Homophobe sounds a lot nicer

I'm not closed minded. I'm what most people would consider normal. Homosexuality is not normal. Again...why is it hate speech for me to say the homosexual lifestyle is disgusting?

Well, I guess it's because YOU don't get to decide what IS normal. To me 'normal' is a dirty hate word I would prefer NOT to be associated with. If you could just understand that your statement about homosexuality is only your opinion, then you would probably word your thoughts differently...like...'I think homosexuality is disgusting' or 'Homosexuals do not fit into what I perceive as normal'

'NORMAL' ick, I'll take weird anyday!!

I'm probably double posting here....Eh

I just want to say that I understand that homosexuality has NOTHING to do with the OP.
It was about some exposing male genitalia to young female children.
No matter what ANYONE's opinions are on homosexuality I can't understand anyone not finding this wrong/criminal.

The perversion of society has warped the parameters of normal. Ancient Rome learned a lesson about warping parameters.

Accepting a specific behavior does not make it normal.

Originally posted by PrplHrt
reply to post by MidnightSunshine

 

Ask yourself where I might have been for five years other than prison.

Oh I got it...

Originally posted by nikkinichole90
I think in her mind she is a woman. A body is only a shell and a
mere fraction of what makes someone male, or female.

You are naive in thinking that;
Transvestic fetishism is a fetish among hetro-sexuals.
It is obvious that this dude has a fetish exposing himself and
dressing-up.
This act alone (in his mind) is sexual.
en.wikipedia.org...tishism
btw, If I felt like I should have special privileges,
can I bypass the rules and use Handy-Cap parking just because
I 'felt' that I needed too ? ? ? ? !
What is wrong with you people that you are so
self centered !

Originally posted by Sissel
My issue is with some of the attitudes here.

Get over it., Everyone has a right to their opinion.
But this is far more than 'opinion', even an atheist with
basic ethics would know that this is WRONG.
This is a no brainer,
normal people do not want strangers exposing their
privates, cornholes and whatnot especially to
children, that is assault period.
Normal people do not care to know about your sexual
fetishes.
BTW this dude had been married 3 times to females.
. . . . talk about NAIVE with a capital N, 'gay' rights is
becoming a cover for low life pervs with fetishes.

"Transgender woman told to leave women’s locker room"
should be changed to :
Cross-dressing man told to leave women's locker room
_______________________

Here's the thing. people change from male to female or visa-versa because they believe they weren't meant to be the way they were born. Surgery is the only way to change what they are to what they believe they are.

So what if someone sincerely believes they are an alien. Do they have surgery to change themselves to look like an alien, remove their genitals, change their skin colour and head shape and then demand equal rights and status so as not to feel belittled by society for their choice?

It's a fair question.

theblacksphere.net... seems Massachusetts is passing simaler legislation that would require kids k-12 to be able to use what ever lockerroom or bathroom that they identafy with and it seems its causing quite a stir with parents simaler to the ops article

i wonder how long it will take for some one to claim to be female to get a lil peek in the locker room or vice versa