Transgender woman told to leave women’s locker room

reply to post by snarky412


It makes me sick when a borderline pedo claiming to be transgender makes us all look bad. The real story isn't that she was transgendered. It was that she was over 40 in a room, naked, with minors.

It's pretty simple. Penises belong in men's rooms. Not sure where this gets even the least bit complicated.

reply to post by mademyself1984


But there you go again, claiming he / she is a pervert. What do you base this on? I would wholeheartedly agree with you if he/she was touching themselves or similar during the incident. This though patently wasn't the case. They were simply sat naked in a sauna when others (female) came in. How that equals perverse behaviour is totally beyond me.

In point of fact, i actually think this particular case is one of those where there is no right or wrong answer. This is decidedly "grey" area territory for me.

I personally wouldnt give a damn. If s/he is genuinely transgender in the head, so let her be in womens locker room. Non-sexual nudity does not harm anyone, only idiot puritans think otherwise. That said, it should be up to the institution in question to make a policy as they see fit, and the transgender should respect that.

reply to post by mademyself1984


You don't even know if she was naked in the sauna. The complaint was only that she was in it. And honestly, I've never seen anyone naked in a college sauna. Though my undergrad work was in Alabama and they are a lot more uptight.

Come to think of it, I've never seen anyone in a sauna naked period. Note to self: check into getting the wife a sauna for Christmas.

Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by mademyself1984

 

But there you go again, claiming he / she is a pervert. What do you base this on? I would wholeheartedly agree with you if he/she was touching themselves or similar during the incident. This though patently wasn't the case. They were simply sat naked in a sauna when others (female) came in. How that equals perverse behaviour is totally beyond me.

In point of fact, i actually think this particular case is one of those where there is no right or wrong answer. This is decidedly "grey" area territory for me.

Because it is a 45 year old MAN exposing HIMself to children. It's already been discussed. If you can't see the problem with it then you are the last person that should be lecturing anyone on reevaluating their views on nudity.

reply to post by mademyself1984

Really? How could you know those answers unless you are her?

reply to post by AnarchysAngel

Why's it have to be about being over 40?

reply to post by mademyself1984


It is a transgender sat in a sauna.

That isn't indecent exposure (that would be flashing streaking, etc), it isn't perverse.

If the transgender had followed the children (and women) into the sauna and then exposed themselves, that would be indecent exposure. Understand the difference yet?

Are your repressed views quite typical in Iowa? If so, that is one scary place.

Originally posted by nikkinichole90
reply to post by Sissel

 

I get that there is nothing wrong about what she did!

The problem is that this "woman" has dropped all common courtesy and common sense in pursuit of an agenda. And in doing so, opened up an opportunity for sex perverts/pedophiles/exhibitionists to take advantage of women and young girls and deny them their legitimate use of facilities set aside for their gender. Now any pervert can march in and demand to use the ladies room just by claiming to be transgender. If I were a man who truly Identified as a woman why would I want to put women in that position. And someday after her transformation is complete, "Colleen" is opening herself up to increased risk of rape by shoving this nonsensical policy on everyone.

I have utmost sympathy and respect for the plight of transgendered people. If I were one myself I would certainly not try to further my cause by putting at a severe disadvantage the members of the gender that I aspire to join. In other words I'd stay home and use my own shower and avoid to the best of my ability public restrooms until I completed my gender reassignment surgery. If I weren't going to have the surgery, I'd dress as the gender I identify with and quickly and discreetly use their restroom but I sure as heck would not linger and draw attention to myself.

I'm sick of everyone in this day and age acting entitled and throwing common sense and courtesy and decency out the window.

Originally posted by Rastus3663
To be a psychologist you have to have a Ph.D.

No. A Masters. To be a psychiatrist you have to have a PhD

Originally posted by Montana
. Please show us evidence that this person desires to have sex with children.

A man who describes himself as 'polyamourous and bisexual' .. hanging out in a girls locker room with his man parts in tact and fully functional ... in a locker room where underage girls are changing clothing .. flashing his man parts ... . That's a red flag. Comeone ... this isn't a red flag warning to you???

This is of course no indecent exposure or against the law. It was in a locker room, and there is no evidence of anything sexual going on.

If this particular transgender wants to cut off his dangly bits, so be it. If he wants to keep them, that's their prerogative as well. What I do take issue with is the need to impose a personal decision on the public at large.

This PC crap has gone to far, there were minor children in that locker room & regardless of the transgenders personal choices, they have NO RIGHT to impose that on others, especially minor children. Use a private bathroom stall to change, but don't expect me or anyone else to be okay with exposing oneself to children.

Also, to the person who said that dad's take their daughters into the mens restroom, did you also notice the dad's do a quick look to see if anyone was using the urinals & if there is, a hand gets planted over the little girls eyes? Not an issue for mom's with little boys since the stalls are seperate in the womans restroom.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

A man who describes himself as 'polyamourous and bisexual' .. hanging out in a girls locker room with his man parts in tact and fully functional ... in a locker room where underage girls are changing clothing .. flashing his man parts ... . That's a red flag. Comeone ... this isn't a red flag warning to you???

Sigh...

Please show where anyone has said this person was "flashing his man parts" at children.The only complaint was he/she was sitting in a steam room when a child walked in. It is not a child's locker room. It is a locker room at a college that is occasionally used by swim teams. Do I really need to say this.... nudity is not abuse unless sexual gratification is desired or received.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't died yet, there really isn't much to argue here. If you are still physically a man, you do not belong in a women's locker room.

I also don't understand the people in this thread being immature or calling for this person's head. It seems that this person was either selfish, or simply has poor judgment. I don't see any reason to call him/her a perv or pedophile or anything else of that nature. There are no indications that the person was there for any other reason besides what the locker room is intended for. With that said, it is still inappropriate.

The fact that there are pervs out there is a good reason not to be lax when it comes to this issue. Whatever you physically are..... you need to be in the appropriate locker room.

Originally posted by Maslo
This is of course no indecent exposure or against the law. It was in a locker room, and there is no evidence of anything sexual going on.

When a person lists sex, sexuality, pornography, erotica, polyamory, nudity, and 'kink' on public profiles, and writes about themselves masturbating online and has no intention of reassignment surgery, then I have to disagree on this.

They seem to have deleted this information online or at least hidden it. Anyone with such known interests should know this wasn't a smart idea.

reply to post by FlyersFan

You are mistaken. Clinical Psychiatry is a Ph.D or sometimes a Psy. D.

Psychiatrists have medical degrees.

I've just finished the course work for a Master's

A man who describes himself as 'polyamourous and bisexual'

.

Put it in context; that was on a dating site.

hanging out in a girls locker room with his man parts in tact and fully functional

No one knows how functional those parts are; when they begin thier estrogen and anti-androgens things don't work like they did; or that's what they tell us in class. SHe also had a legitimate reason for being there. She is a student on the campus.

flashing his man parts

No witness has claimed that she was deliberately flashing anything.

Originally posted by Pinke

Originally posted by Maslo
This is of course no indecent exposure or against the law. It was in a locker room, and there is no evidence of anything sexual going on.

When a person lists sex, sexuality, pornography, erotica, polyamory, nudity, and 'kink' on public profiles, and writes about themselves masturbating online and has no intention of reassignment surgery, then I have to disagree on this.

They seem to have deleted this information online or at least hidden it. Anyone with such known interests should know this wasn't a smart idea.

That is no evidence of anything sexual going on in this case. Plenty of people are kinky, does not mean they cannot go to a sauna.

He was a transgender. If I was a transgender, I would probably go to a womens locker, too. There is no reason to believe this was anything more than a transgender going to a lockers room with the gender he identifies as, which makes sense.

Originally posted by Rastus3663
reply to post by AnarchysAngel

 

Why's it have to be about being over 40?

It's about being a pedo, and abusing laws meant to protect my rights. Adults should not share locker rooms with children. Anyone over age 40 should have the good sense to exercise common decency and cover themselves, despite the law. People like that make me mad. We have so few laws to protect us, and so many pedos abusing them that I fear we will not keep what little protection we have.

No wonder the most popular threads on the trans forums are about legal concealed carrying. People like this have everyone after our heads!