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posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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How many citizens are in Birmingham? Having that amount of muslims in one city is a lot. We have 5,4 million citizens in whole country and 50 000 muslims.




posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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I understand the point, and it is a good one. I was not saying whether anyone is right or wrong, my religious views are not needed in this thread. Presumably everyone understood the message being conveyed in that post which was simply an explanation of each religion’s views on social relations and how the Protestant north was ill-prepared to deal with such a wildly different religion such as Islam. Traditionally Catholic countries seem to have a better handling of the situation, even if it is more along the lines of cultural segregation as in many parts of France and Italy.



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Tell me about it! lol.. I got lost in Alum Rock and had to pinch my self to make sure I hadn't fell asleep and dreamed about Pakistan!

Even the walls were painted in flags!



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Although you make some very good points, the problem i have is this.

We have so many different peoples from different cultures and communities here in the UK, from poles russain's turks, pretty much every nation in the world and you very rarely hear or have a problem with them, it always the muslims who have a problem, and shout the loudest.

My point is multiculturalism will never work with muslims, this whole multiculturalism experiment here in the UK is failing because of muslims...There i said it.



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by dollukka
 


I understand the point, and it is a good one. I was not saying whether anyone is right or wrong, my religious views are not needed in this thread. Presumably everyone understood the message being conveyed in that post which was simply an explanation of each religion’s views on social relations and how the Protestant north was ill-prepared to deal with such a wildly different religion such as Islam. Traditionally Catholic countries seem to have a better handling of the situation, even if it is more along the lines of cultural segregation as in many parts of France and Italy.


Yea, the Catholics keep em out!



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by TheMaverick
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Although you make some very good points, the problem i have is this.

We have so many different peoples from different cultures and communities here in the UK, from poles russain's turks, pretty much every nation in the world and you very rarely hear or have a problem with them, it always the muslims who have a problem, and shout the loudest.

My point is multiculturalism will never work with muslims, this whole multiculturalism experiment here in the UK is failing because of muslims...There i said it.



I think the governments experiment is going VERY WELL - from *their* perspective.

Doesn't take a genius to point out the problems, so one must assume they are there on purpose!



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by Sinny
Extremist being your choice word - not mine - I prefer to call them anti-social racist foowkwits (The censors clocked on to my special spelling, so I have to be rather more inventive now! lol)



So..

I don't really have a dog in this fight just basing this on my personal experiences with those of the Islamic faith here in the US that I know personally. You're saying that 63,000 are "Extremists? I honestly find that hard to believe. I can see maybe 5% to as high as possibly 15 % that are actually the potential "Extremist" version I'm referring to.

I get branded all kinds of names here at ATS sometimes simply because I hold Iran's Islamic Governments feet to the coals {Just like many here do mine or Israels Government} as it should be but I have no issues with Islam and Muslims in General.

Just the more "In your face" extremists of all faiths including Islam.,



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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You totally nailed it ! And its not only UK it seems to be issue in whole Europe...



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Sinny
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Tell me about it! lol.. I got lost in Alum Rock and had to pinch my self to make sure I hadn't fell asleep and dreamed about Pakistan!

Even the walls were painted in flags!


I was born and used to live near there. It's grim now. It used to be such a nice place too.
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posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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I think the governments experiment is going VERY WELL - from *their* perspective. Doesn't take a genius to point out the problems, so one must assume they are there on purpose!


Now this is the part i can't get my head around, that our government would intentionally do this knowing the outcome, i tent to side with the theory it was a stupid mistake by a past labour government, giving our powers away to unelected bureaucrats in a another stupid idea the European Union which open the flood gate and introduced mad human right bills, once we get out of this fascist setup, we can close our boarders and sort out the good from the bad, and expel accordily.

Ever remember tony blairs idiot wife, used to promote this ridículos human rights rubbish, she though she could stop world wars with a cup of tea and a chat...She also to blame for this crazy mess.



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by TheMaverick
reply to post by Sinny
 





I think the governments experiment is going VERY WELL - from *their* perspective. Doesn't take a genius to point out the problems, so one must assume they are there on purpose!


Now this is the part i can't get my head around, that our government would intentionally do this knowing the outcome, i tent to side with the theory it was a stupid mistake by a past labour government, giving our powers away to unelected bureaucrats in a another stupid idea the European Union which open the flood gate and introduced mad human right bills, once we get out of this fascist setup, we can close our boarders and sort out the good from the bad, and expel accordily.

Ever remember tony blairs idiot wife, used to promote this ridículos human rights rubbish, she though she could stop world wars with a cup of tea and a chat...She also to blame for this crazy mess.


I think it's deliberate. A nation divided won't stand against it's leaders.

Country divided, faiths divided, and now the family is being divided.

Destroy the tribes and no one stands together to resist anything, they have no one to stand with.

Divide. Conquer. Rule.



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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Hi Slayer

Here in britain ive grown up with lots of american films and cartoons
and like a lot of us that grew up in the 80s percieve america like this

(mainly my dream of america)

Buying a Firebird (the one from creepshow 2)
filling the tank for a few dollers
then driving from state to state meeting peeps and getting lost in unreachable places lol

But here its so different
we are so crammed up together its inevitable that peeps will growl and snipe
its not as bad as say in india where people sleep at their machines

but the way things are going...



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by davesmart
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Hi Slayer

Here in britain ive grown up with lots of american films and cartoons
and like a lot of us that grew up in the 80s percieve america like this

(mainly my dream of america)

Buying a Firebird (the one from creepshow 2)
filling the tank for a few dollers
then driving from state to state meeting peeps and getting lost in unreachable places lol

But here its so different
we are so crammed up together its inevitable that peeps will growl and snipe
its not as bad as say in india where people sleep at their machines

but the way things are going...



excellent comment.



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Wow what are the odds!

I'm from Walsall. This video is pretty biased, my best friend was black. We get along fine, though sometimes there are fights.



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by TheMaverick
It's no coincidence it always the Muslims who cause the problems with multiculturalism.


lol. are you being f*****g serious ? after all that s**t that has happened in English football lately, you come out and make a statement like that ?
Wrong timing i would say. Look at what happened last sunday at the Chelsea - Manchester United game:



a nice white multicultural Christian English chap "greeting" Manchester Uniteds Danny Welbeck. Is he a Muslim aswell ?

At the same game following happened:


TWO Chelsea players say they heard race-row referee Mark Clattenburg call Blues’ star John Obi Mikel a “monkey”.

Clattenburg, 37, is also accused of calling Chelsea midfielder Juan Mata a “Spanish t***” during the West London side’s 3-2 defeat.

www.thesun.co.uk... l


Mark Clattenburg, he must be a Muslim.

Lets continue


One year on, Terry FINALLY says sorry for racist abuse...as he misses games with Rio AND special Kick It Out campaign

John Terry has finally said sorry for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand and has accepted the four game ban and £220,000 fine from the FA.

www.dailymail.co.uk...




Yeah, John Terry is a famous Muslim, we all know him.

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posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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i been thinking it for a while, and now i know for sure....ats really is now a home to xenophobia and paranoia, enjoy your ignorance and cya



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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What a bit of name calling?If that is all the trouble in multicultural britian we'll be fine.
I think Muslim peados grooming young British girls and sharing them with their family and friends is a little more serious.Or the fact that Muslims also want sharia zones in British is a little more worrying.
Bloody hurt feelings laws,pathetic.Laws shouldnt be about feelings.



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by skalla
i been thinking it for a while, and now i know for sure....ats really is now a home to xenophobia and paranoia, enjoy your ignorance and cya
You can think?You lost me with the smart ass xenophobia comment.
Did I mention,water off a ducks back?



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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Are you serious this is your counter argument to this thread, you do realize whites are the most racially abused people in the UK now right.


A report from the British Crime Survey gave the following figures:

Black and minority ethnic groups,
87,000 victims of racially motivated crimes;
49,000 violent attacks with 4,000 being wounded.

White people,
92,000 victims of racially motivated crime,
77,000 violent attacks with 20,000 being wounded.

The Tony Shell Interracial Violence report gave the following confirmed racist murders statistics [figures taken from England and Wales crime statistics]:

Totals:
White 32;
Black 8;
Asian 11;
Jewish 0;
Other 5.

Ethnic Communities' Experience of Racist Violence [England and Wales]. Actual victims:
White 75,912;
Black 7,408;
Asian 28,634;
Jewish 82;
Others 10,446.



But don't let real facts and figures get in the way of your poor defense here.

Source



posted on Nov, 1 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by glen200376
reply to post by ArtooDetoo
 


What a bit of name calling?If that is all the trouble in multicultural britian we'll be fine.
I think Muslim peados grooming young British girls and sharing them with their family and friends is a little more serious.Or the fact that Muslims also want sharia zones in British is a little more worrying.
Bloody hurt feelings laws,pathetic.Laws shouldnt be about feelings.


If you consider calling a black person 'n-word' and monkey " a bit of name calling" than i wont respond to the rest of your post. It's kinda like talking to an idiot who is claiming that the grass is red even though its green.





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