Very interesting thread, with very interesting answers.
I'll have my go
Originally posted by The Shrike
1. Do you think UFOs are crafts?^
I've always tried to remain relatively unbiased, in particular with the many cases where no conclusion can be reached. So this question, although it
seems pretty much a yes/no case will require much more than that.
The terminology used, UFO, designates an unidentified flying object
, so the name UFO is already flawed as it assumes from the start that it
must be some sort of craft. I had once suggested to use instead UAP for Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, but I have had to think about it and it is not
correct either, as some "UFOs" are actually ground happening phenomenon.
Anyways, the discussion is not there, but since a UFO can just be some lights in the sky, it is very possible that some UFOs are not crafts, that
they're not even solid material but just lights, energy, holograms, lasers, name it. However, some of the UFOs observed around and on
were solid material objects, that certainly looked like they could be a craft.
2. If you do, why are there such a variety of shapes?
Speaking of those that we will consider to be "crafts", there may be many different purposed crafts. Reconnaissance crafts, that will carry just one
pilot or even no pilot at all, photography/scanning crafts, transport crafts, crafts designed to run scientific experiments, crafts that are
themselves craft carriers, who knows for sure? On earth, depending on what our vehicules are supposed to be doing, and where they would travel, we
have very different sizes and shapes of vehicles. Assuming the UFOs are crafts, they originate from a species that has built them in order to do
something with them (it could be humans, us!), and the shape and size of those craft is adjusted to its purpose. As simple as that.
3. Do you think that if UFOs are craft, do they contain beings which would pilot the alleged craft?
Again, possibly, but possibly not. We have crafts here on earth, known crafts that do carry people and some that do not carry people. We have, in
particular, unmanned vehicles in space and on mars. Depending on the same discussion as in 2., I'd say that it is possible that some carry a crew and
4. Would you consider UFOs as remotely operated vehicles and if you do, where would their controlers be located?
Same as 2. and 3., some may be. I will not elaborate again the same arguments, you get it without a doubt. As to say where their controllers are, how
would we know? In space around the planet, on the moon, on earth, on mars, farther that this? Everything is possible, since we don't know if even
they are remote controlled.
5. Why do you think UFOs are extra-terrestrial and what do you base it on?
This could start a potentially 20 pages discussion just by itself, but to make it as short as possible, because there are too many instances in which
all earthly explanations are ruled out beyond reasonable doubt, because there are too many cases where a possible extraterrestrial origin (CE3K,
abductions, observations of non earthly beings, etc.) cannot be ruled out. It is not based on belief or customs or fairy tales. It is based on good
logic and on common sense.
Since man is man, we have always looked to the stars. And now, we are just starting to discover that earth may be far from unique. In a very tiny
place of space around our own world, we have discovered several hundreds of planets already, many of them could possible harbour life. There are
trillions upon trillions of other neighbourhoods like ours everywhere in space. We cannot be alone. And all the good arguments in the world to pretend
that star travel is not possible and blah blah blah, I can certainly answer that travelling to the moon was impossible 100 years ago. Therefore logic
dictates that there could just be life everywhere, with who knows how many hundred of thousands, millions or even billions of years of further
advancement compared to us, who have evolved a mere few thousand now.
So maybe some UFOs are really terrestrial, but too much points towards a bunch of them (20%? 50%? 80%?) are probably not earth technology.
6. Can you provide any evidence for your opinions?
Sh.tloads (sorry to cheat censors this way, but no polite word describes it better).
Not [proof]. No, not that. But libraries worth of evidence. Of good evidence.
7. If you do not have any evidence, then you must be employing a belief system so what led you to
Not a belief system in my case.
In fact, as many things are based on evidence and not proof indeed, it is discutable. But in order to make one refuse to give credit in the evidence
he has in front of himself, it takes better evidence of another explanation. I have not found better evidence of another explanation so far. Not for