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The Occult Origins of Halloween

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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Haven't seen a decent Halloween thread today, so I figured I would post this.



Its Infowars, but theres some interesting tidbits of information here.
- Halloween correlates with the Pagan holiday Samhain, which among other things marks the beginning of the dark half of the year and is believed to be a day when spirits can cross over.
- Pagan cultists would roam villages and randomly choose a home, mark a symbol on its door and demand a sacrifice or they would burn it. Trick or Treat?
- Jack-o-lanterns were effigies used by families as a sign that they have already paid there sacrifice and to ward off demons.
- Villages would have a Witch that would go into the fields and stomp the ground with her broom, while under the influence of hallucinogens and the next harvest would grow however high she was able to jump. Hence witches flying on broomsticks.

en.wikipedia.org...
wicca.com...

Feel free to add more to this thread!
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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by Konduit

isnt Halloween anceint egyptian....night of the "djed"

Christmas is Egyptian... on the 360th night of the year...nut giving birth to the 5 extra gods/days that make it 365 days......she is the tree and the presents under her tree are her children, the gods/gifts of egypt

Christianity is Egyptian,
the ressurection an the virgin birth
the father - osiris
the son - horus
the holy spirit - re, the sun

maaan everything thing is egyptian.....even you...lol



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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Could be. The Vatican certainly originated from Egypt, so who knows!?



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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this drivel is propaganda in the never ending quest of some to pervert Samhain and the old-time religions... not much different than turning Pan into the devil by painting his skin red.

there are many origin myths to the holiday - but Trick or Treating it was said, originated from the tradition of going door to door to collect wood for the bonfires that would be lit in celebration of the Harvest Festival (which Samhain was in its eldest origins). It then became customary to reward the efforts of the firewood collectors with a treat. indeed, an element of "good luck" would be bestowed if a treat was given... therefor bad-luck (a trick) can be expected if a treat was not given.

being a harvest fest- pumpkins were plenty, and the Jack o' lantern both lit the way for the nighttime revelers, and indeed warded off spirits who slipped through, as it was said that the door between worlds was thin at this time. turnips were used as well.

as for the sacrifice element - indeed livestock would be slaughtered this time of year (as crops would be harvested). but human sacrifice? like i said.... propaganda.

so please... do not profane any further a rather significant holiday for some us with talk of devils and human sacrifice and i will do my best not to chastise the bevy of new world holidays that have their roots on commercialism and hero-worship.

deal?

blessed Samhain!



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Meh....if you are struggling, you can attribute anything to ancient Egypt...I however find little of comparison with them and ancient western Europe...you know folks were actually living there before the rise of Egypt correct? You could then say everything comes from ancient Sumer as it was around before Egypt.

The problem with the supposed origins of Halloween is the fact that there is no real written accounts from the people themselves. Most recorded history comes from the Romans during their time in control of Gaul and Britannia. So, it's hard to say just how biased the Romans were in their record keeping...let's be honest, the ability to write history goes to the victors.

For example:

The Druid celebrations of western Europe are cloaked in mystery. Why? Not because it was a profoundly secretive thing...it's because they didn't have writing so no one actually knows beyond a shadow of a doubt what took place.

There is a story the all Hallows Eve was a day to gather "magic" mistletoe...the plant would be cut with a sickle and caught in a bowl. A bull would be sacrificed and it's neck stuffed with the plants that they thought came from the heavens. (Lives in the tops of trees, is evergreen but has no roots to the ground...= must be from the Gods).

Is this account correct? Maybe...maybe not. Nothing was written down so...who knows for sure.

Halloween is a fun time. I don't care what the "ancients" did...it's a time to laugh at old fears and superstitions and ghost/monster stories. Eat, drink and be merry and don't ever take it too serious.


ETA...BTW...original "Jack o lanterns" were turnips, not pumpkins


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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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do we really need a thread to " educate " us of such blisteringly obvious facts ???????????



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Makes me laugh to see people still trying to heathenize paganism, even after all of these years and the near eradication of pagans from this earth due to nothing other than ignorance and fear.

"They're witches! Burn em!"



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Makes me laugh to see people still trying to heathenize paganism, even after all of these years and the near eradication of pagans from this earth due to nothing other than ignorance and fear.

"They're witches! Burn em!"


whats even more amusing is Christians are largely behind it and their entire faith is taken from paganism:lol



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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I love pagans much more than Christians, Jews, or Muslims.

If I had children they'd be dressin up as lil vampires.



posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Every day has bad associations and good ones too. Make a choice, and follow the intent of your heart. Halloween is a day that fun for kids. KIDS RULE AND THE BLOODLINES DROOL.

We win and they lose, their karmic trap is all a big pile of doo doo.
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posted on Oct, 31 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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I don't doubt that haloween has occultic elements, but so do disney movies, churches, and childrens games. I'm not revealing anything new when I say that people practice the occult as a lifestlye, they don't just dabble, they move up in ranks, perform tasks that they are obligated to do through vows and self preservation. So what if people don't believe that human sacrifices still occurr in this day and age, it just shows the extent of their love of truth. Anyone who wants the truth will look for it, but even knowing the truth does not trigger autopilot, you still get to choose whether or not you will submit yourself to a way of life.



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