Originally posted by gnosticagnostic
Ok this is ATS so i'm gonna go there... here's the thing.. the RAINBOW incident.. seems very odd esp since it occured just before the
"meteorite" in question. Yet no one's around here seems to think it's odd and out of place? could the meteorite be the cover story for this one?
After all you can only have so many exploding bunkers and space junk stories to go around.
I know nothing about beams and particle rays but COME ON! this one screams WEIRDNESS!!
Firstly, rainbows are relatively common. Since when is a rainbow an "incident"?
Secondly, why should there be any connection to begin with?
A fireball like this one would be seen over a wide area - many thousands of square miles. Prior to the meteor occurring many other things would have
been occurring in that same area - perhaps a flock of birds few by someone, or a worker in warehouse using a fork-lift carrying some pallets has them
fall off his fork-lift.
Why shouldn't one of those "incidents" be connected with the fireball instead of the rainbow?
How would a relatively small meteoroid that is thousands of km away and approaching Earth affect or cause a rainbow?
There is no known physical mechanism that would accomplish this - unless an event that occurs in the future can affect something that has already
occurred in the past.
Even if the meteor/fireball had occurred BEFORE the rainbow, there is no known mechanism for a fireball to be able interact with lower atmosphere
weather. Even big fireballs are 10's of km above the ground at their lowest point, and yes they may drop meteorites which would fall through weather
near to the ground, but a few bucket fulls of stones falling through clouds/rain isn't likely to have any affect whatsoever.
By the way, it may not even have been a rainbow
, but even if it was sun
dogs, those are common too, as I explained a little later on in that thread.
To sum up, there is no way that these two events are related - why should they be? Coincidences happen all the time, but this is hardly a rare one.
Sure, fireballs like this one don't occur over the same area every day, but there are probably at least two every day on this scale that occur
somewhere in the world. Occasionally the US (like anywhere else in the world) gets a little more than it's quota, but it evens out over time.
Originally posted by gnosticagnostic
i don't normally hear fireballs from the sky stories nor have i seen that many in one month.
So because you didn't hear about them, does that mean they did not occur?
What if I told you that I have been following fireball reports, and studying the subject for nearly 15 years, and this happens every year?
I had a long argument with someone on exactly the same topic nearly 2 years ago
person (who is now banned) claimed to be a genius and a teacher, but he did not even know the difference between raw data and data that has been
statistically analyzed. The thread was basically pointless, apart from it serves to show that when people first find out that lots of relatively small
rocks hit us every day, they assume that this must be something new... but it's not.
The other assumption he (and others) made/make is that because this is new, and seems
to be getting more frequent, it must be building up to
something, but again, that is not necessarily the case.
Even if it was the case, an increase in the rate of small objects (which pose no threat to us) are hitting us, has no bearing on the frequency of
larger objects that hit us.
I had the very rare privilege of witnessing a
fireball storm. It came, and went, and we are still here.
I again had the privilege to observe another meteor storm that reached well over
2000 meteors per hour at peak, although the "corrected hourly rate" (ZHR) was around 4500 meteors per hour at peak in
there was a great storm of meteors, and for about 10-15 minutes, meteors were falling
at a rate of 40-50 per second.
None of these extreme events were a prelude to anything.
Although all the above examples are comet related (meteors are the debris of comets), the principals are no different with asteroids.
In fact we are just finding out what, and how much is hitting us, and we are getting better at doing that, which is just one of the reasons why we
hear about more events than we would have in the past.