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I also agree with this part of your post.
The part about the pointless question? Oh, I know it. I've seen it. The truth is quite literally as old as the ancient civilizations that discovered half of our greatest scientific developments before we ever thought of it. It's not a pointless question for me. It's The Secret, and it uses a basic psychological trick that goes much deeper than anyone imagined. Thoughts have a gravity of their own, a gravity that can change everything about you. Remember when I said "God" is gravity?
Originally posted by DeliberatusImmemor
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
The other possibility. Humans created Biblical God in their image.
You know that actually makes sense..
The majority of our populace mirrors the archetype perfectly.
You mean...they actually worship themselves? I knew it!
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
So who is God?
And who is Gods Creator?
edit on 30-10-2012 by AthlonSavage because: (no reason given)
I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe someone else said this; but to answer the first question "who is God's creator?" Clearly, the reason we use the word "God" as a label is exactly because we know everything must come from something, yet we know this thing called Life, must at the very First come from Nothing. We know that Something cannot come from nothing, so We Call This Something "God". The "mysterious wonder that has no creator" is called "God" for the very reason that the word "God" implies Supreme, Supernal, Absolute, Diefic, Immutable, Uncaused Cause of all that is. We use the word "God" because it works to mean "That Which Was Not Created" meaning It always was, therefore "God" is the best word we know to mean the Supreme Isness, Which Always Was and Always Is. God Is, that means that everything that comes and goes is within the Presence of It's Totality. There is only One is because It Is The Absolute that has no beginning and so no end.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by vethumanbeing
If God created Humans in a mortal body which ages doesnt that indicate the envitable entrophy of the body and mind with age. Does this point away from perfection?
Could it be possible God created Humans as perfect against his image in the form of a first born. Then as we age and progress we become less and less perfect?
Originally posted by Sweetmystery
reply to post by AfterInfinity
Well, I don't know if I would call it energy, I think not. But, I don't know much about energy.
I am thinking that whatever this Uncreated Isness is (that created every thing) it would be more like a Principle rather than a 'thing'. Like the principle of music, you know it exists, but it has no 'mass' there is no music (yet it does exist when you 'make the principle evident as music 'heard' by way of instruments, notes, chords and sounds' . Arithmetic is the same; a principle exists but we do not see it directly, we only know it exists because it "manifests" as numbers and equations we can use and write and see.
Originally posted by Barcs
People keep repeating that something can not come from nothing, but still refuse to explain the cause of god. Either god came from nothing, or he has a cause. Which is it?
You can't just argue that god is timeless or just always was. That's a cop out of extreme proportions.
If you can consider god as eternal and timeless, then why couldn't the universe be timeless as well?
If you can designate a guess on the unknown as transcending space and time, you first need evidence that this is possible. At this point there's no proof that there is an "outside of space and time".
Originally posted by Shadow Herder
"If the latter were the case, God would not be God, for He would be effect and not cause; He cannot be both cause and effect."
Yet the bible says "I am the Alpha AND the Omega". Wouldn't this say that the cause-and-effect argument may have a single exception in the acceptance of God?