why's Japan highest Life Expectancy while USA lowest and American lifespan continues falling?

reply to post by NavyDoc


Read it. Already do most of the same things, but not adding fish or giving up red meat and dairy. I have balanced, all natural and organic diet. Drink tons of water gyokuro/sencha daily, and am probably in the top 5% for fitness for my age group. Just got back from my 30th in Vegas and was carded constantly at the casinos!!

I'm usually following a ~20% CR diet, but decided to bulk up a bit as I enter middle age. LBM as you age correlates with decreased mortality risk. Want to build a good foundation before it's too late.

Originally posted by moniesisfun
reply to post by NavyDoc

 

Read it. Already do most of the same things, but not adding fish or giving up red meat and dairy. I have balanced, all natural and organic diet. Drink tons of water gyokuro/sencha daily, and am probably in the top 5% for fitness for my age group. Just got back from my 30th in Vegas and was carded constantly at the casinos!!

I'm usually following a ~20% CR diet, but decided to bulk up a bit as I enter middle age. LBM as you age correlates with decreased mortality risk. Want to build a good foundation before it's too late.

Cool. I can't agree with you more. Looks like you have your head on straight. If only I would put into action what I know better than I have so far. . Mea Culpa! Inertia and bad habits are hard to break.

The Japanese also have something called "Respect" for each other built into their culture.....

Something we Americans lost a looooong time ago...

Originally posted by moniesisfun
reply to post by juleol

 

A few years ago.

The point is that you're making absurd exaggerations which aren't backed up by evidence. You're jumping to illogical conclusions.

I'm integrating the facts and making claims that can be backed by evidence.

Feel free to continue your baseless rants.

I'm out!

Exaggeration?? This is from UN website:

Replacement Migration: Is It a Solution to Declining and Ageing Populations? United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration. Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.

I guess they are full of bull as well? And quite a few of these countries would already be declining if it wasnt for immigration. Russia and some eastern european countries are already declining today even with immigration.

Sushi whale meat ect provides good fat ...as opposed to sausages burger meat mincemeat ect bad fat.
Add the trans fats that kill even the healthy hearted and that may be part of the reason.

There's a big assumption here that living longer is "better." Is it? Look at the differences; A couple of years. Is my life "better" than yours because I live 82.1 years and you live 79.2 years? If you're talking serious differences, such as 28 for Chad and 80 for the western world, OK. That's a big difference. But these differences are hardly worth discussing.

reply to post by juleol


Your post in no way refutes what I said.

None whatsoever.

I believe mental health is also a massive reason for this. American pollute their minds as well as their bodies. Whilst the younger generation in Japan consumes a lot of 'junk media' - there is still a huge tradition in Japan toward holistic disciplines which would include Tai-Chi and martial arts. It cannot be understated what a dramatic effect this has on the body.

reply to post by minnow


I can offer some insight to this. I have lived in Japan for several years. There are two main factors which leads to people in Japan having a long life span; diet and neoliberal/socialist healthcare system. Here in Japan we do not eat so much junk food; it is popular with young people and even then they do not eat five burgers, large fries, two liter of coke ect at one setting. Also, there is a much lower sugar and fat content in most food in Japan. The food in Japan is great but it is usually not loaded down with empty carbs, fat and sugar. Only young people, who can easily burn off that junk, eat like that in Japan.

Japan has a very well structured socialized healthcare system. It is very cheap to see a doctor in Japan and the quality of service is usually pretty good. You can choose any doctor you want, private practice or a public hospital, and the price will be the same(private practice doctors will sometimes lower fees so you will come back in the future).
For example: I went to a private practice doctor for some hardcore back pain I had been experiencing recently. I got full service and given top of the line meds(no charge for the meds on his part), and very good bedside manner, for roughly ten bucks!

This is why people in Japan live so long. We eat healthy and our healthcare system ensures that everyone can see a doctor.

Another one of the many reasons I will not leave Japan; despite all the troubles the nation is facing recently.

Soy and rice Vs burger patties and french fries... FIGHT!!

It all comes down to fast food. America stopped eating real food decades ago.

Originally posted by minnow
Genetics?

Diet?

Lifestyle?

Pollution?

All of the above? And or what else? Why are some 25 other countries higher in lifespan than USA if we're such a healthy model for life freedom, democracy, medicine, heath and all that?

And why is it getting only worse, if we are progressing as a nation and as a people?

www.forbes.com...
Falling Life Expectancy In the United States

My god, it's late and there are MANY reasons but I'll try to sum it up...in one word, STRESS, we have to stress over what will happen if we can't afford our house payments anymore, we have to stress about if we get sick because we might end up thusands in debt if we do, we pay for car insurance then still stress about having an accident because our insurance may just decide they don't have to cover us after all, we have to stress about whether someone is going to sue us over some dumb s*** like falling on our sidewalk outside our home, or if our kids are going to learn anything of importance in our crap schools and if they don't how are they going to even survive, how are they going to prosper beign dumbed down the way they are, we always have something to stress about and the older you get the more you have of worrying and stressing. But at least some of our worry (hospital bills) may be turning around that remains to be seen.

Originally posted by minnow
Genetics?

Diet?

Lifestyle?

Pollution?

All of the above? And or what else? Why are some 25 other countries higher in lifespan than USA if we're such a healthy model for life freedom, democracy, medicine, heath and all that?

And why is it getting only worse, if we are progressing as a nation and as a people?

www.forbes.com...
Falling Life Expectancy In the United States

I've been living in Japan for almost a year now and I will say without any hesitation its DIET. In America the over consumption of fried foods is killing us. Along with portion size. The first thing my co-workers talk about in regards to food is how big the portion size of food is in America. Burgers are insanely big. Supersized soda drinks. Its crazy. I lived all over the United States and if you have lived in Mississippi where everything is fried you will understand why American's life expectancy is dropping. Here in Japan they also do more walking. They walk everywhere! Even if it is to a train station they get out and get moving. There are bikes everywhere and they use them. Its a healthier living. I'm a big guy but I have lost weight living here. I was originally 245 when I got here I'm down to 210. And I hate working out, I just changed my eating habits, but they drink like sailors over here and smoke. By doing those two things I kept some of the weight...lol

Originally posted by freedomwv
reply to post by minnow

 

I can offer some insight to this. I have lived in Japan for several years. There are two main factors which leads to people in Japan having a long life span; diet and neoliberal/socialist healthcare system. Here in Japan we do not eat so much junk food; it is popular with young people and even then they do not eat five burgers, large fries, two liter of coke ect at one setting. Also, there is a much lower sugar and fat content in most food in Japan. The food in Japan is great but it is usually not loaded down with empty carbs, fat and sugar. Only young people, who can easily burn off that junk, eat like that in Japan.

Japan has a very well structured socialized healthcare system. It is very cheap to see a doctor in Japan and the quality of service is usually pretty good. You can choose any doctor you want, private practice or a public hospital, and the price will be the same(private practice doctors will sometimes lower fees so you will come back in the future).
For example: I went to a private practice doctor for some hardcore back pain I had been experiencing recently. I got full service and given top of the line meds(no charge for the meds on his part), and very good bedside manner, for roughly ten bucks!

This is why people in Japan live so long. We eat healthy and our healthcare system ensures that everyone can see a doctor.

Another one of the many reasons I will not leave Japan; despite all the troubles the nation is facing recently.

The health care system here is amazing!! My wife and I are about to have our first child and the hospital check ups were amazing. I was shocked to see the amount of care we received for only 2,000 yen. And that included an ultra sound every visit. My wife went back to the States to have the baby (High risk pregnancy and she wants to be close to her specialist) and the care is totally different! So I'm here on my own working during the day and having a nice Chu-High at night...lol