reply to post by boomer135
well, in case i haven't said it before, Thank You
thanks for your service and courteous response.
as for emails - nope - haven't read one yet.
have read several references to them but haven't seen the real mccoy, got a link?
as for what you said about a 2am notice about an arrival ... ??? huh
arrival of whom ? and who had transpo trouble ?
can't really address the other 2 questions while the above remains unanswered.
do i think there is a "muslim" agenda that may involve targeting/killing muslims ??
sure, in one form or another. there has been for many, many years, why not now ?
also, from what i've read so far, the attack was ongoing from before 10p til near dawn.
so, at 2am, why would anyone think the siege was over, especially the WH ?
[trying to understand how that's possible with live video at their disposal]
email vs live feed ?? that's a no contest and the email comes in second.
since i know nothing about Flash mssgs, i'll take your word for that unless challenged.
so, assuming Obama knew about the active danger 1.5hr after the skirmish start (still before midnight) --> what's with further delay ?? i sure don't
follow that line of thinking, even politically speaking.
The ambassador and the three CIA agents/former SEALS were supposedly in a safe room of the building, which was in the emails as well
now this doesn't mesh with what i've read thus far.
here's the differences --> 2 seals at annex, upon hearing the conflict, made 1st request for assistance. (probably via flash mssg you mentioned)
after making 2 more requests for assistance and being denied, they proceeded to the "consulate" to engage.
upon arrival at the consulate, ambassador was found dead and the other seal injured and declining.
reportedly, the arriving seals collected the AKs discarded by the Feb 17 members who bailed from their posts and proceeded to kill 60 of the
attackers, rescue near 20 employees and return to the annex only to be leveled by a precision
as for this ...
Forth, I think that people were called in in the first place. As already seen, we know a group arrived at the airfield at 2.
Where did they come from? How long did it take for them to get there? The emails show a team heading to the consulate to check for damage and
survivors, thinking the ambassador and the three guys were in a safe room.
i don't doubt "ppl" were called in, but, that doesn't say whom
Feb 17 were working both sides and openly admitted as much.
so why call in those you deem "terrorists" anyway ?
[perhaps aiding the enemy or enemy combatants is no longer a traitorous act ??]
also, who fed them the false intel ? (in a safe room)
remember, by 3am, they had been battling for more than 4 hrs, on video.
If it was given, it was probably within the first hour of the fight just to see how things were gonna play out.
fight was nearly 2hr old when the WH was first notified, why wait ?
because he has proven himself to be a pathological liar
to Obama, lying is second nature. if his lips are moving, chances are more likely than not that he is lying through his teeth.
oh come on, i'm not that young
the situation room has been getting live feeds for years, this is not news.
just because they have a new toy equipped with better doesn't make it new tech.
(fyi, they've been getting live feeds since the 80s, early 90s)
heck, a few conflicts ago, the embedded Geraldo nearly got himself in BIG trouble over live feeds, remember?
[anything about location, location, location ring a bell? )
so, bad intel, poor video, not enough of either, sorry --> no sale.
wait a minute, the only "story" i remember Obama spewing was that 'anti-muslim movie motivated a deadly attack' or something similar.
which story are you referring to, exactly ?
as for the drone, i have no idea so i'm not speculating on that.
however, i am sure he had multiple options at his immediate disposal.
none of which were employed to support or rescue our countrymen.
i also heard that this whole mess was a pre-arranged, coordinated kidnapping gone bad.
heard anything on that front ?
Iraq freedom ? kinda, sorta but am currently a bit over-saturated with Fast & Furious Part II.
ETA: boomer, i'm getting the impression that you haven't read over this yet, have you ?
gotta copy/paste to search or just "Panetta Doctrine" (doesn't pass ATScensors)
commentary from a former Delta Operator - care to share an opinion on his opinion ?
edit on 31-10-2012 by Honor93 because: ETA