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This year, as for all years past, many of those who died fighting will not have their representative at London’s Cenotaph. Yet for some time now the humanists have asked for their representative to stand alongside those from the country’s religions at the official ceremony. They are, after all, the second largest belief group in the Armed Forces after Christianity. Other cities already accept their presence: Edinburgh, Belfast, Sheffield and Birmingham among them. But so far they have been kept away from the major national monument in Whitehall.
This is odd, because currently some 26,000 serving men are registered as having no religion. And the Armed Forces Humanist Association has more members than there are Jews or Sikhs in the Armed Forces. Jews and Sikhs, however, are represented. Until now the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, which co-ordinates arrangements at the Cenotaph, has not yielded. But this year there may be a chance.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by wildtimes
Humanist is pretty close to whatever label could be stuck on me and atheism has been taken over by extremists.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
With Remembrance Sunday approaching, I'm surprised to find out that the UK doesn't allow non-religious representatives at the Cenotaph ceremony. Christians, Sikhs, Muslims and Jews are entitled to figure-heads...but not atheists and humanists.
Some could say these humanists are extremists for trying to rain on a religious ceremony sort of thing.
Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
having them included into something that they never represented is also very disrespectful.
Including them in the "ceremonies" should be stopped at least. If I were an atheist and died, and afterward was included in something that I didn't believe in that is very upsetting,
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by SaturnFX
Some could say these humanists are extremists for trying to rain on a religious ceremony sort of thing.
Some could. Not me.
Remembrance Sunday is a broadly 'religious ceremony' and wouldn't be diminished by allowing a humanist participant to stand for them and pass on the condolences of families that might also be non-religious.
Can you think of any logical reason why this should not be allowed?
Originally posted by paraphi
This is just an argument to get humanists and atheists somehow recognised as equal to the established faiths. They are not equal. They are not faiths.
This is just an argument to get humanists and atheists somehow recognised as equal to the established faiths. They are not equal.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by paraphi
This is just an argument to get humanists and atheists somehow recognised as equal to the established faiths. They are not equal.
It is no such thing.
When men and women die in the line of duty, they should be afforded the respect of their beliefs as much as the religious denominations.