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If Storm Hovers Over NYC Will There Be Massive Destruction As Predicted In the Cathedral of St John

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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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I live in Philadelphia and am quite concerned about the coming storm "Sandy." There has been much weather station talk of the possibility of the storm moving very slowing and hovering dangerously for long periods over some of the large cities on the eastern seaboard.

While ruminating on that fearsome thought I wondered to myself what would happen if the storm system were to hover for an extended period of time over Manhattan Island wreaking total destruction as a result of the extreme winds and enormously high wave surge that is surely expected to hit?

Immediately following those thoughts I came across a reprise of an article on Vigilant Citizen titled "Prophetic Pillars on St. John the Divine Cathedral" .

This is one of the pillars on the facade of the Church and it depicts an apocalyptic view of the destruction of New York city as its being engulfed by enormous waves.


Also posted in the article, notions of 9/11 notwithstanding, this column depicts more ominous waves and the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge. Underneath is the New York stock market and people trading goods.
Could this be a reference to the Babylon of the Book of Revelation? OR could it refer to a more contemporaneous event such as a terrible hurricane ?

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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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If sandy did indeed hover over New York for an extended period of time there would be massive damage to infrastructure. Subways, sewers, electrical conduits and possibly even damage to the foundations of some of the massive buildings there. That would be my guess.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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Wow!! That is crazy to see. I had no idea that the columns depicted such odd scenes. Maybe the artists pulled inspiration from what they believe could represent the destruction of the city.

I hope it is just fictional speculation with no real facts backing the design. Who knows though, really?

There are strange pieces of art and murals all over the nation, some of them very subtle, while others are graphic and detail a clear cut scene of disaster ~ both man-made and naturally occurring.

Maybe there is something we just don't know. The most elite corporate and government heads may be afforded this knowledge. Using it to keep the lemmings (the average citizen, AKA 'sheeple') content, while siphoning off any financial or emotional progress that would allow people to be happy.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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For those of you that were thinking "Woah, how old are these pillars?!", the article says these pillars were "conceived" in 1997.

If we are to assume that these pillars are prophesizing a hurricane/weather event in NYC, then they sure seem to have missed the 9/11 attack. Both Twin Towers are clearly visible.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Heliophant
The article says these pillars were "conceived" in 1997. For those of you that were thinking "Woah, how old are these pillars?!"

If we are to assume that these pillars are prophesizing a hurricane/weather event in NYC, then they sure seem to have missed the 9/11 attack. Both Twin Towers are clearly visible.


Please pay attention to what I actually wrote in the OP - thank you.......I made it very clear to the reader that it deals with what is seen there (by this author) in a contemporaneous and personal manner resulting from a coincidental thought on the possible destruction of NYC and the fact that this article was so recently REPRISED. The original article dealt almost exclusively with the Cathedrals relation to the destructive events of 9/11..

In other words, the fact that the Twin Towers are depicted has already been well accounted for with respect to what's contained in the Cathedral........I have written much on it as have many others................Please bear in mind that prophesies such as we see here almost always have multiple meanings as well.............
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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I too am from the Philadelphia area (northern suburb). Shore points aside, this has been the most over-hyped non-event in my 50+ years in this area. I remember a few fall nor'easters, spring storms, and hurricane remnants worse than this. It's just 6ABC, KYW, and WCAU trying to ramp up ratings.




 
Mod Edit: Full quote removed, reply to function used. But please check your U2U's UnBreakable as I made a mistake here too. Thank you - Jak
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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Hey dude, chill out. I read your OP and the article. Your OP didn't say anything about the Twin Towers and really doesn't "clearly explain" your thoughts on it.

This is the only time you used the word "contemporaneous":

Originally posted by Vitruvian
OR could it refer to a more contemporaneous event such as a terrible hurricane ?


And if there is a "well-known" explanation for the Twin Towers being there, then why don't you post that or link us to the articles.

My bad for having an observation. I did give you S+F before this. Less poo flinging, more discussion. Thanks.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by UnBreakable

I too am from the Philadelphia area (northern suburb). Shore points aside, this has been the most over-hyped non-event in my 50+ years in this area. I remember a few fall nor'easters, spring storms, and hurricane remnants worse than this. It's just 6ABC, KYW, and WCAU trying to ramp up ratings.


Thanks for the bump..........regarding your thoughts on people hyping the storm IMHO that's a big maybe..........We'll know by 8:00 this evening............lets wait and see. OK?



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Heliophant
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Hey dude, chill out. I read your OP and the article. Your OP didn't say anything about the Twin Towers and really doesn't "clearly explain" your thoughts on it.

This is the only time you used the word "contemporaneous":

Originally posted by Vitruvian
OR could it refer to a more contemporaneous event such as a terrible hurricane ?


And if there is a "well-known" explanation for the Twin Towers being there, then why don't you post that or link us to the articles.

My bad for having an observation. I did give you S+F before this. Less poo flinging, more discussion. Thanks.
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Well ........ Pardon meeeeeeeeeeee I thought I gave you a well informed and credible response .............

My observation is this - rather than making meaningful contributions to the thread you appear to have a desire to hi-jack it - or at the very least - to throw it off track.............So if your intent is to argue with me please don't - and please refrain from interfering with the thread - Thank you very much - in advance!

BTW - there's an option to UN_FLAG...............the * will have to remain tho
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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What in the world are you talking about??? I never meant to derail your thread. I gave it S+F for heavens sake. Was simply making observations! So now you ban me from discussing here? I think you may be a bit overly defensive.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by Heliophant
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What in the world are you talking about??? I never meant to derail your thread. I gave it S+F for heavens sake. Was simply making observations! So now you ban me from discussing here? I think you may be a bit overly defensive.


Look.........please cool down OK.............I'm sure you have worthy contributions to make to this thread. So lets make peace OK................My apologies for any mis-understanding...........



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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Here are two other ATS threads dealing with some of the same topics. For reference. I'm very interested in these pillars and am making my rounds on the internet to dig up relevant sources.

9/11: Written In Stone Fantastic thread!
Apocalyptic Art In St. John The Divine Cathedral Predicting 9/11?

Off-Site References:
The Cathedral of St. John the Divine depicts the destruction of New York & Wall Street as described in the Book of Revelation
NY Times | A Bridge Under Scrutiny, by Plotters and the Police
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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It looks like whoever created that pillar forgot about the twin towers being destroyed before this storm hits.
If this person is predicting some cataclysmic event surrounding NYC, wouldn't they know that those buildings would be gone?

EDIT: I did not see Heliophant's post. Sorry for reiterating what was already said.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by holyTerror
It looks like whoever created that pillar forgot about the twin towers being destroyed before this storm hits.
If this person is predicting some cataclysmic event surrounding NYC, wouldn't they know that those buildings would be gone?

EDIT: I did not see Heliophant's post. Sorry for reiterating what was already said.
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As stated there are multi layers to any prophecy............AND as previously stated in this thread I am very well aware of the many 9/11 conclusions that were drawn as result of the pillars of Cathedral facade. But I intentionally avoided posting this in the 9/11 Forums.................for reasons that should be obvious to anyone.

Now this is a first for me .............In light of these kinds of posts from holyTerror and Heliophant I can very clearly foresee problems ahead so I am abandoning this thread and will have nothing further to do with it. Carry on..............
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Heliophant
For those of you that were thinking "Woah, how old are these pillars?!", the article says these pillars were "conceived" in 1997.

If we are to assume that these pillars are prophesizing a hurricane/weather event in NYC, then they sure seem to have missed the 9/11 attack. Both Twin Towers are clearly visible.


Not necessarily. Imagine if they didn't depict the twin towers and someone pointed out the apocalyptic nature of the carvings, skeptics would automatically claim it could be predicting any old city.

Inclusion of the twin towers helps to sell the location. And because 9/11 is burned into everyones brain, there can be no mistaking the location.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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True, the Twin Towers does make it a dead give-a-way that NYC is being depicted and maybe that's why they were included. And of course, these pillars were designed in 1997, a few years before the 9/11 event. I guess my thinking was, if you've got the foresight to predict a weather event that destroys NYC, would you not have foresight of the 9/11 event?

Maybe, maybe not. No conclusions drawn, just a thought. I can just as easily argue that the person/prophet that was designing these pillars in 1997 was just focused on the weather event and had no fore-knowledge of the 9/11 event, and thus left the Twin Towers in the design.

But of course, somebody had to point out that the Towers were still there. This doesn't invalidate the potential for these pillars to be true prophecy, but it is noteworthy.

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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 02:04 PM
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It would be Ironic/Iconic if NY does flood substantially and one of the images depicting this flood is the Cathedral...



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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The only problem that I have with this 'prophecy' (and this is my opinion only I'm not saying it's right), is that New York City is built near/on the water. If a large and destructive storm does indeed hit, it's only natural that a massive amount of damage would indeed happen, whether it be waves or flooding.

With the coming of 'Sandy' the most recent storm said to hit NYC, flooding would only be natural, and should be expected. However, I don't think the waves would truly be that large. Now, if another storm comes and is far stronger, or an earthquake similar to the one that rattled Washington DC and the surrounding area, there is a frightening possibility that this could happen.

However, I don't see these pillars as a prophecy.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Transitarian
However, I don't see these pillars as a prophecy.


But, I think the Church facade w/pillars should be considered as prophetic, or at the very least, as a multi-layered prophecy that contains many possibilities - as most prophetic utterances do - by virtue of their placement and their unusual apocalyptic content.......Just saying.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Vitruvian
so I am abandoning this thread and will have nothing further to do with it. Carry on..............

Welcome back! Still not sure how we got off to such a bad start, but I hope this discussion can continue without incident. It's an interesting thread that can be viewed from a number of angles. As long as we can all be open to the possibilities and not expect a prescribed course of thought, we should all be just fine.









 
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