Free Energy - Perpetual Motion Machines (pt 1)

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: operayt
NO. Does a car need solar panels to keep the battery's charged ?

Cars run on petrol, when the petrol runs out the car stops....

And on this unit, the water wheel keeps the alternator spinning as a mover.

So when the water runs out it stops.

when the water runs out due to evaporation, then The Ram Pumps will no longer pump water anymore.

a reply to: operayt

But a cars battery is powered by an alternator. Said alternator is connected to a PETROL or DIESEL engine to produce the power to move the belt.

If the fuel runs out there is no moving of said belt.

If said belt stops moving said alternator stops producing energy.

If said alternator stops producing energy said battery does not get a charge.

If said battery does not get a charge there is no power left.

originally posted by: operayt
did you even READ what I wrote. The ram pumps the water from the bottom tank to the top tank continuously.

You also said solar power runs the ram, so no solar power, it does not work

originally posted by: operayt
when the water runs out due to evaporation, then The Ram Pumps will no longer pump water anymore.

So what powers the ram?

a reply to: operayt
What powers the pumps while the alternator is powering your fridge?


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www.powerelectricalblog.com...

I know a very cheap and easy way to fly, just reach down, grab your shoelaces and lift yourself up!

Works on exactly the same principle as your ram pump!

originally posted by: hellobruce
I know a very cheap and easy way to fly, just reach down, grab your shoelaces and lift yourself up!

Works on exactly the same principle as your ram pump!

Or you could get into one of those perpetually powered airplanes.

You know the ones?

They run with an engine that uses fuel.

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: operayt

The alternator powers the battery at a loss, so where are you going with this, exactly?

So what your saying is that the alternator powers the battery with a loss IN A CAR. Gee, where does the car get the power to run the radio, fans, windshield wipers, lights and ALLL those other extra's you can get to plug into your car like t.v's and so on. I guess a car runs those items with a loss. NO, the alternator powers all that. The engine that is powered by gas is the mover of the alternator to keep it spinning under a load. The alternator gets harder to spin when under a load. When this happens, the wheel slows down and fills the bowls with more water, thus giving the wheel more power to turn the alternator.

a reply to: operayt

Gee, where does the car get the power to run the radio, fans, windshield wipers, lights and ALLL those other extra's you can get to plug into your car like t.v's and so on.

From the combustion of fuel which powers the engine and turns the generator.

When this happens, the wheel slows down and fills the bowls with more water, thus giving the wheel more power to turn the alternator.

But if the wheel slows down the generator is producing less electricity. Less electricity = less water being pumped.
Less water = less electricity....and it all stops.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: operayt

But a cars battery is powered by an alternator. Said alternator is connected to a PETROL or DIESEL engine to produce the power to move the belt.

If the fuel runs out there is no moving of said belt.

If said belt stops moving said alternator stops producing energy.

If said alternator stops producing energy said battery does not get a charge.

If said battery does not get a charge there is no power left.

I already went thru this , read what I put down.

originally posted by: operayt
Gee, where does the car get the power to run the radio, fans, windshield wipers, lights and ALLL those other extra's you can get to plug into your car like t.v's and so on.

From the gas engine running the alternator. Where do you think it comes from?

the wheel slows down and fills the bowls with more water, thus giving the wheel more power to turn the alternator.

So where does the energy to run the ram pump come from?

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: operayt
did you even READ what I wrote. The ram pumps the water from the bottom tank to the top tank continuously.

You also said solar power runs the ram, so no solar power, it does not work

Look up Ram Pumps. Then you will understand what I said.

a reply to: operayt

Ok. Just go build it then report back.

a reply to: operayt

But you haven't.

You still need something to power the alternator. Which in a car is a petrol/Diesel engine.

What powers your Rams exactly?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: operayt
What powers the pumps while the alternator is powering your fridge?


BTW,
www.powerelectricalblog.com...

Ram Pumps don't run on electricity. Look up Ram Pumps and see how they work.

originally posted by: operayt
Look up Ram Pumps. Then you will understand what I said.

Ram pumps rely on a constant flow of water,

Efficiency A typical energy efficiency is 60%, but up to 80% is possible. This should not be confused with the volumetric efficiency, which relates the volume of water delivered to total water taken from the source. The portion of water available at the delivery pipe will be reduced by the ratio of the delivery head to the supply head. Thus if the source is 2 meters above the ram and the water is lifted to 10 meters above the ram, only 20% of the supplied water can be available, the other 80% being spilled via the waste valve. These ratios assume 100% energy efficiency. Actual water delivered will be further reduced by the energy efficiency factor. In the above example, if the energy efficiency is 70%, the water delivered will be 70% of 20%, i.e. 14%. Assuming a 2-to-1 supply head to delivery head ratio and 70% efficiency, the delivered water would be 70% of 50%, i.e. 35%. Very high ratios of delivery to supply head usually result in lowered energy efficiency. Suppliers of rams often provide tables giving expected volume ratios based on actual tests.

originally posted by: operayt
Ram Pumps don't run on electricity. Look up Ram Pumps and see how they work.

They rely on a constant flow of water..

originally posted by: operayt

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: operayt
did you even READ what I wrote. The ram pumps the water from the bottom tank to the top tank continuously.

You also said solar power runs the ram, so no solar power, it does not work

Look up Ram Pumps. Then you will understand what I said.

I know very well about ram pumps. You need the water above the pump.

a reply to: operayt

Ok

The basic idea behind a ram pump is simple. The pump uses the momentum of a relatively large amount of moving water to pump a relatively small amount of water uphill.

You can see that the one big disadvantage of a ram pump is that it wastes a lot of water. Typically, only about 10% of the water it consumes actually makes it up the delivery pipe. The rest flows out of the pump as the water builds momentum.

science.howstuffworks.com...

Doesn't seem like your plan will work. How does a small amount of water being lifted equal a large amount of water falling down?

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