San Francisco Police Encouraged Riots After Giants Win 'World' Series. , page 1


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Topic started on 29-10-2012 @ 05:50 AM by Aninonymous
San Francisco's baseball team, the SF Giants, have just won their 2nd 'world' Series in the past three years.
I parenthesize 'world' because it's not really a world anything. It's only US teams.

I digress.

Being a San Franciscan, I happened to be out tonight. Not because I watch baseball. I'm not into sports.
But because a friend from out of town just happened to be having a going away party.
Firsthand, my friends and I watched people turn into drunken apes, smashing bottles and possibly shooting shotguns from the sound of it.
News reports are already surfacing (it's 3:30am as I write this):
San Francisco Riots: Giants Win World Series And Fans Act Like Complete Morons
San Francisco Giants Fans Start Riots
Here's an excerpt:
Several fires were set in the middle of the street and photos and videos of a city bus burning were posted on Twitter.
By 1:45 a.m. police scanners described a group of as many as 100 rioters setting fires, smashing windows, throwing bottles at police and damaging cars.

Here are some photos I found on my facebook page posted by friends:



Yes. Stupid. Seriously, sports fans, you guys get riled up over cloths...


Ok, on to the juice of the story.

This video leaked on ustream of the riots. 45 minutes worth. (SKIP THE AD!)
www.ustream.tv...
Skip to the 40 minute mark when the 'reporters' ask the police if they have any plans of arresting anyone or clearing the streets. He responds with a, "it doesn't look like we have any plans for that."
At this point, there are already fires, bottles being smashed, and gun shots being fired. Cops were everywhere, just watching. Some people even report that the police cheered them on (I wonder if some of the shots came from them).

Maybe I'm just going off the deep end here, but this type of action, or lack there of, leads me to suspect they wanted riots and people acting like idiots. If you let people act like fools without drawing a line, even cheering it on, as authority figures, who's to blame when things gets rowdy?

Busses on fire is serious folks. Thats batman stuff. Even if no one got seriously hurt, pictures like that can be used in very manipulative ways by the press and media. I'm not going to put it past them to make this into some type of excuse for something...
I'm not sure what.
Maybe more money for the police force.
Maybe more cameras watching our every moves.
Maybe TSA security checkpoints.

Maybe anything... Maybe...

I just don't trust the police to not be hitting us with sticks or shooting us with tear gas and pepper spray when things are getting lit on fire in the streets, cars being turned upside down, windows being smashed...

I mean, we all saw what happened at the Occupy rallies, and those were peaceful...

No. These pictures will be all over the news tomorrow. I guarantee it. A 'world' Series grabs that type of attention. The media, TPTB, they know that.

Thanks for listening to me rant. I hope thats all it is.
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reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 06:12 AM by MountainLaurel
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Being a CA girl, and living much of my adult life in the Bay Area ....I was happy that the Giants won...my FB page is going crazy with happiness.......it is sooo sad to me that friggin idiots, the public and police included had to be such jerks.......


reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 09:35 AM by HomeyDevincenzi
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Pretty sad. Alcoholics out of control. What can you say? Hide the women and children.


reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 02:38 PM by Aninonymous
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
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it is sooo sad to me that friggin idiots, the public and police included had to be such jerks.......



I agree. There's obviously a larger problem at hand. Either at a societal level, or just a sports one.
Yes, sports makes people happy, but at the same time, with the way it's given to us, creates a large divide between the population. Almost like politics. Except unlike politics, the players switch sides all the time (ie: if next election Romney ran as a democrat, that would be the equivalent of sport players).
Anyway, people be acting fools.


reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 02:39 PM by Aninonymous
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I'm not sure I totally understood your post... but I enjoyed the hell out of reading it


reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 03:36 PM by darkhorserider
I wasn't going to respond, but I read through and...

OK, first of all it is a "world" series, because there are Canadian Teams, and there are players recruited from around the world, and the game is watched around the world, and I'm sure MLB would be happy to have a couple of new franchises in Japan, and Europe.

Next, those complaining about the fans, your community put up millions (sometimes a billion) of your tax dollars to build these parks, because they know what it means to the economy in your area. If you work near a stadium, and you hate the events in the stadium, just think about the unemployment line if the stadium were never built. Communities make similar investments in tax-free industrial zones, and subsidies for major manufacturers and retailers. If you want the economy of your community to grow, you need things like stadiums.

For those talking about the riots. Have a look around the world please. Look what happens before, during, and after soccer games, hockey games, etc. Look at sports like bullfighting (which really isn't much of a fight, more like a slow execution of a dumb animal.) Look at people rioting at music concerts, rioting over religion, people rioting over banks, people rioting over elections. Please move outside of your glass house before casting your stones.

Not that I agree with setting things on fire to celebrate a victory, and not that it makes any sense to riot after a loss, or riot after a win, seems pretty stupid to riot either way, but put 80,000 dumb animals in close proximity, fuel them up with alcohol and adrenaline, and surround them by their buddies to egg them on, and you get what you get.


reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 03:52 PM by Aninonymous
Originally posted by darkhorserider
those complaining about the fans, your community put up millions (sometimes a billion) of your tax dollars to build these parks, because they know what it means to the economy in your area. If you work near a stadium, and you hate the events in the stadium, just think about the unemployment line if the stadium were never built. Communities make similar investments in tax-free industrial zones, and subsidies for major manufacturers and retailers. If you want the economy of your community to grow, you need things like stadiums.

Couldn't the same argument be made against war? Think about how many jobs war creates. Job creation is not a solid argument.
But I do think sports can be used in a positive way, and therefore the stadiums are healthy. It's the sports consumerism that stirs the prejudice against other teams, and therefore other human beings.
I like to watch sports sometimes. I cheer on everyone. It's fun. It encourages everyone to do their best.
Just doesn't make sense to root for a team where very few are originally from the city they play for.

For those talking about the riots. Have a look around the world please. Look what happens before, during, and after soccer games, hockey games, etc. Look at sports like bullfighting (which really isn't much of a fight, more like a slow execution of a dumb animal.) Look at people rioting at music concerts, rioting over religion, people rioting over banks, people rioting over elections. Please move outside of your glass house before casting your stones.

Ummmmmmmmmmm.... yeah, I can complain about all of those things. Right now I'm complaining about whats happening in my city... Why would anyone not complain about those things?

Not that I agree with setting things on fire to celebrate a victory, and not that it makes any sense to riot after a loss, or riot after a win, seems pretty stupid to riot either way, but put 80,000 dumb animals in close proximity, fuel them up with alcohol and adrenaline, and surround them by their buddies to egg them on, and you get what you get.

Well, if you not only don't complain, but try and stop other people from complaining, as you're doing now, don't expect anything to change.




reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 04:07 PM by darkhorserider
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Actually, I don't like the job creation argument myself. I don't like it for tax-free industrial zones, I don't like tax subsidies to employers, etc. The so-called experts say it works, but I'm not so sure.

As for the complaining, I'm not trying to stop it, but I'm trying to play a little devil's advocate. Those same, loud, drunken, ranting fans are the ones making the property value for your employer worth investing in, and the same ones filling your tip jar from time to time.

Also, from time to time, I am one of those loud fans, and we don't mean any harm, we're just having a good time, venting a little bit, blowing off some steam, yelling random things at strangers and sometimes you make a new friend that way, and sometimes you start a good ol' fashioned fist-o-cuffs that way, its just for fun.


reply posted on 29-10-2012 @ 09:19 PM by Aninonymous
Look at this dummy
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reply posted on 31-10-2012 @ 01:19 PM by Aninonymous
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looks like some arrests have been made after photos have been going viral on Facebook:
blog.sfgate.com... i-bus-vandalism/
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