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if you vote for Obama or Romney you're an idiot

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posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 01:30 AM
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First I answered your questions.

Second you are very hostile and I suspect you have some anger issues or a mental disorder.

Third my job was saving lives in the military. I suspect you do not know anything real about the military.

Fourth you are now wasting my time.

edit on 30-10-2012 by Grimpachi because: Punctuation


Edit to add

When I said your comments were enlightening I am glad you think that means you answered them but it really means something else. Please don’t strain yourself trying to figure it out. If you missed the meaning the first time explaining will not help you.

Please seek counseling.

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posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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If you vote for anyone you're an idiot, because that would mean you actually believe that your vote is counted. Your nuts. It's all decided years in advance. The voting machines ensure you have no say in who wins.



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by meeee
 


First I answered your questions.

Second you are very hostile and I suspect you have some anger issues or a mental disorder.

Third my job was saving lives in the military. I suspect you do not know anything real about the military.

Fourth you are now wasting my time.

edit on 30-10-2012 by Grimpachi because: Punctuation



Just saying NO is not an answer! YOU are the one advocating democracy but when the democratic choice is shown to you, you just say "NO you cant have that, pick one of these!" Lmao... hypocrite and a fraud!

It is not hostility you see, it is truth! I know the truth hurts sometimes but it is what it is...

Oh right.... yeah the military is there to save lives! I see, I see...No matter what role you played in the army YOU are responcible for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people! I know the role of the army all right! But it seems you have a very rose tinted view of it! Have you seen the helicopter footage of some of your mates that shot down 2 reporters and fired into a good samaritans car containing his children? There are hundreds of other examples and hundreds more that go unreported!

But hey you support murder and torture! As long as you can live with yourself! Personally I find it sick!

If rellying to me takes up some of your time that could of been spent killing innocent people then I think it is more than worth it... Hey why dont you join the cops or tsa? You can still get your kicks then...

Edit.... I was actually referring to this comment...



Wow you actually caught on. I did kind of make it easy though.


I didnt even respond to your enlightening jab as there was nothing of substance to reply to! So again you fail at back tracking! Lol
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posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 02:15 AM
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Originally posted by Dishonored
And this is what we get when we do vote.


Solution:

Sit on the sofa, stuffing your faces with Cheetos playing the quintessential armchair politicians.




posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 02:24 AM
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do you think the other would have signed the same bills once in office? because it sure seems the minute they get in, bam, headlines read, " so and so signed xyz bill in secret this morning".



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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Its hard not to be, they have pretty lights, lots of make up, and a CRAP LOAD OF MONEY haha and tons of paid people to follow them around to make them look even more important. Really its the school and parents fault for not teaching common sense and deductive reasoning lol.



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 02:31 AM
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It is kind of a pointless vote.....



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by Dishonored
Can someone just come out and say it already? I know I'm not the only one that thinks that WE THE PEOPLE have no choice in this election. Stay home folks. A vote for Gary Johnson or writing in Ron Paul is a vote for the 2 party dictatorship. Stop playing their game. STAY. HOME.

I really have nothing else to say. This "election" is a complete joke. You have no choice.


While you will have some people who agree with you, I must take issue with what you said.
Staying home or voting for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson is a wasted vote if you really don't want Obummer to win.

3rd Party candidates DO NOT stand a snow balls chance in hell of winning the Popular Vote in this election or the Electoral Votes. So, yes, it is a waste of time and a vote. If you want 4 more years of a move toward Socialism / Marxism and a complete move towards Martial Law in America, go ahead, waste your vote or don't vote at all and let Obummer win.

I agree with your assessment that the 2 party system is a political dictatorship. They are both after the same thing but represent two completely different sets of people politically opposed. They believe in the Tax & Spend philosophy. Republicans represent the Rich and Corporations, Democrats the Unions and Minorities.

Until the American People are willing to set aside partisanism, there can truly be NO TRUE REPRESENTATION of all the people in Government. We need to ditch partisan politics and political structures as we now know it. A true representative republic means that each person who serves in office does so for the good of all, not for a lobby or political plank or party platform.
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posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 03:21 AM
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I agree with the op.S&F For all of you who are convinced your vote actually counts just look at 2000.Need I say more? The guy y'all never wanted got installed anyway.I will be voting for Johnson rather then fascist blue or fascist red.
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posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
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So the answer to the problems we face as a nation is simply STAY HOME?


Is that your answer for every problem you face in life?



How’s that working out for you? You sound to me like a disillusioned Hope & Change’er!



so you are supposed to choose between crap and more crap.... if you are served crap on one hand and crap with sprinkles on the other hand.. i will let you decide what to eat... i will ask for something else on the menu... and if there is none... they do not get my business till there is. either way you will be a sh3t eater not me



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 03:42 AM
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Voting twice as well as aiding and abetting one to vote twice is supposedly a Federal crime.
What happened?



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by Dishonored
Can someone just come out and say it already? I know I'm not the only one that thinks that WE THE PEOPLE have no choice in this election. Stay home folks. A vote for Gary Johnson or writing in Ron Paul is a vote for the 2 party dictatorship. Stop playing their game. STAY. HOME.

I really have nothing else to say. This "election" is a complete joke. You have no choice.


you stay home....i'm going to vote for obama...in fact, all of you obama conspirecy nuts stay home, stay true to your convictions



There's not much of a conspiracy about Obama being a liar and a puppet. That's obvious for all to see, or should i say, its obvious for all to see that don't have the blinkers on. Give me a tin foil hat over blinker's any day !



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by SilentE

Originally posted by Dishonored
Can someone just come out and say it already?


Didn't you get the memo?

Someone said it


The Irony that this was created in the same week as my thread. looks like people are starting to wake up and realize that the illusion of choice and actual choice are two very different things.



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 05:57 AM
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I don't think you are an idiot if you vote for Obama or Romney. I think you are an idiot if you vote for Obama or Romney and you don't understand what they stand for or what their plans are. Just voting for a (D) or an (R) without a clue what it means .... THAT is when I'd call someone an idiot. (side note .. I already voted and didn't vote for either of them).



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 06:20 AM
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Dishonored, sorry about that -
and I'm guessing you don't have anything to say because you don't really know what you're talking about. You sound frustrated and ineffectual when actually you are not - not in the broadest or most literal sense.


"The people have the right to change their form of national government
by means defined in the Constitution itself."

The authors of the Constitution were clearly aware that changes would be needed from time to time if the Constitution was to endure and cope with the effects of the anticipated growth of the nation.


Our Constitution enables THE PEOPLE to change any damn thing they want to.

There is no Constitutionally protected government in the world that allows the people more autonomy.

We have unique permission to CHANGE what we don't like.

We can GET what we WANT.

All THE PEOPLE have to do is get together and AGREE ON SOMETHING - ANYTHING.

Here is an example of a law that was changed in 3 months because people DEMANDED IT.
They got together. They got it done.

The Twenty-sixth Amendment (Amendment XXVI) to the United States Constitution barred the states or federal government from setting a voting age higher than eighteen. It was adopted in response to student activism against the Vietnam War and to partially overrule the Supreme Court's decision in Oregon v. Mitchell. It was adopted on July 1, 1971.

This POWER OF THE PEOPLE is strong -
It is why people form groups and deliberately inspire to divide us,
deliberately make us think we are powerless.
It is a trick as old as the pharaohs.

Don't fall for it.
Get out there and change things and if you can't make a difference
at least you will have tried. You won't be home wallowing in self pity.



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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I think America is heading for a new civil war, albeit one of the most interesting in history.

On the red side we'll have the keyboard warriors flinging insult after insult and stringing together hugely, over ambitious, words. On the blue side we'll have the couch potatoes who will slide their chairs in all directions, forming battle plans in living rooms across all America. Then we'll watch as the most hilariously boring battle commences where everyone loses because their fight is ridiculous.

America is due a revolution, there..... That's all that needed to be said. Throw them ALL out and start over, you've done it before. And by the by, it's not a DEMOCRACY it's a flucking constitutional republic, get it right.



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by Dishonored
Can someone just come out and say it already? I know I'm not the only one that thinks that WE THE PEOPLE have no choice in this election. Stay home folks. A vote for Gary Johnson or writing in Ron Paul is a vote for the 2 party dictatorship. Stop playing their game. STAY. HOME.

I really have nothing else to say. This "election" is a complete joke. You have no choice.


I agree with you my friend. I'm staying home. I refuse to participate in this lie. As I said in another thread, TPTB has put up two puppets who are no good for all of us to vote for. We have no real choice here, and TPTB know this. They know they got the puppets set up no matter who wins this lie.



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by OrchusGhule

Originally posted by Grimpachi
The mindset of the OP is sick and it’s catching. Seabag and I are pulling for different horses this race but I respect him for doing so. It isn’t that often we agree but I am with him on this.

Go ahead people stay home from the looks of it you would make the wrong choices anyway. Sit at home on your couch and be counted the same as non-citizens and convicts. They can’t vote and you’re just too apathetic to vote.


At this point voting is the same as being a non-citizen or a convict. Too pathetic to vote? What the hell does that even mean? Come on, that's a troll post if I've ever seen one and it has nothing to do with anything. Why is it assumed that if someone does not vote, that they are a lazy, good for nothing, couch potato? I don't vote, but I do involve myself with my small community so we can make decisions for ourselves instead of allowing someone several hundred miles away make them for us.

I contend that its the voters who are the true lazy people in this country. You have so much (misplaced) confidence in the power of your vote that you think that's all you have to do. Just go check a couple of boxes every 4 years and you think you've done your part. That's lazy. Now compare that to many non-voters who are involved in their communities to free ourselves from the ruling class which rules us through fraudulent and meaningless institutions like the voting system.

Please give me an example of how your vote counts and how it has made a positive, or even a negative, difference on how this country operates.


If I was a mod, I would applaud you for that post. Bravo, well said.



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by Dishonored
Can someone just come out and say it already? I know I'm not the only one that thinks that WE THE PEOPLE have no choice in this election. Stay home folks. A vote for Gary Johnson or writing in Ron Paul is a vote for the 2 party dictatorship. Stop playing their game. STAY. HOME.

I really have nothing else to say. This "election" is a complete joke. You have no choice.


If you think this election has already been fixed, you may be right.

I will vote for the lesser of two evils, just in case you're wrong.

The real idiots are the people who vote for 3rd party candidates who have absolutely NO chance of winning, and who will help "the greater evil" win.


I have wondered when someone would mention this. We have 100% of NO CHANCE to elect a 3rd party, it is a waste of time it only splits one of the 2 primary parties.
And for the OP to "TELL" us to not vote, yeah that will work..... because of your post the entire population will stay home and let the chips fall where they will!
The 2 party system isn't the best but short of a 2nd revolution by the people, this is the way it has to be.
You can sit on your ass and let the government decide for you on all the issues but I'm sorry the OP is such a child-like idea that has no merit whatsoever!



posted on Oct, 30 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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BETTER TO LET PICTURES SPEAK FOR ME!!! (words are cheap)



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