Canadian Grade Eight Social Studies: Who Is The Prophet Of Muslims?

Originally posted by Unity_99


I am really surprised at the posts on my thread. And hadn't realized how bad the American education system was. The only one shocked, was my friend in Australia, who had the same Secular education our country was proud of.

And then being called hate filled, put down, told you'd look foolish to speak up and make an issue of this.

You guys seem to be agents for something, or very poorly educated, and don't have a clue about how to safeguard democracies.

Could it be possible, just possible, that it might be you who is deluded and/or uninformed? People may be some kind of agent or poorly educated because their views differ from yours?!
I'm telling you that you will look foolish rolling in there talking about criminal acts when you cannot cite what laws/regulations they are violating. Surely someone with your elevated education can understand that.

reply to post by Unity_99


Ishmael?isaiah? MUHAMMED??? I'd fail eighth grade in canada ...cause I could GAS.

Whatever...this is not allowed in USA seperation of church and state (How I love that seperation!).

reply to post by MonkeyFishFrog


I love Canadian School system, i would do whatever to go back to high school again(and i never skipped classes till grade 12) and now i have bachelors in microbiology from University of Toronto(birth place of DNA model).

When i see how Americans say how much their school system is corrupted, it just make me grateful that i grew up in a good system. Learned about many cultures and religion of course, the cultural days were most fun, where we get food from different countries and dance and plays... that was fun.

If keeping schools secular is as important to you as you make it out to be than why haven't you waged about holidays? Our schools and government only observe Christian religious days as "holidays". By your logic, we should have no holidays or stat days because its indoctrination and not a separation of Church and State. Why does that not upset you as much?

reply to post by ldyserenity


You skipped the entire thread didn't you? lol

sum it up.

It was education not indoctrination.

Not just muhammed but all other religion int he world as well.

Source: grew up in Canadian school system.

What next? A French lesson will be called a subversive socialist agenda?

Originally posted by hououinkyouma
reply to post by Unity_99

 

From my point of view they are only teaching facts about the history of some religion. I don`t see a big problem there, it`s part o history too.

No because there is no proof 100 percent proof that any prophet was ever existant...EVER in fact science says there is no such thing as prophets, psychics, et al...so what are they doing teaching this BS there! I'd be mad too!!! They can teach about the FOUNDERS of said religion that's one thing, but not prophets that is all bs garbage.

Originally posted by ldyserenity

Originally posted by hououinkyouma
reply to post by Unity_99

 

From my point of view they are only teaching facts about the history of some religion. I don`t see a big problem there, it`s part o history too.

No because there is no proof 100 percent proof that any prophet was ever existant...EVER in fact science says there is no such thing as prophets, psychics, et al...so what are they doing teaching this BS there! I'd be mad too!!! They can teach about the FOUNDERS of said religion that's one thing, but not prophets that is all bs garbage.

It is not BS to say "Muslims believe Muhammad was their prophet from God." I've seen nothing in any Social Studies class that says "Muhammad IS a prophet from God."

reply to post by buddhasystem


LMAO, NOW THAT!

They forced me to take french in high school. You can't pass high school without 1 french credit.i sucked at that course, the teacher gave me 51 marks.

J'ai ma pelle Luciddream!

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by MonkeyFishFrog

 

I love Canadian School system, i would do whatever to go back to high school again(and i never skipped classes till grade 12) and now i have bachelors in microbiology from University of Toronto(birth place of DNA model).

When i see how Americans say how much their school system is corrupted, it just make me grateful that i grew up in a good system. Learned about many cultures and religion of course, the cultural days were most fun, where we get food from different countries and dance and plays...

that was fun.

I know! I am always thankful for the education that I was given in this province (and I was in high school when Campbell came in and cut the hell out of everything) because I feel much more prepared to be a member of the world than I would have in any other system. The fact that Canadian schools are so inclusive to their curriculum and emphasize the importance of the global community is important today because we are seeing Globalization occur in leaps and bounds.

Like I said in an early post, I was really lucky to get a Social Studies teacher who was very aware of the world and when major events happened she would include them in the course. To this day I think about some of the things she taught us in class and am ever grateful because she wanted us to go further than what was expected, to get past tolerance and get to appreciation.

reply to post by ldyserenity


Yeah, because Mohammed was not the founder of Islam lol

Looks like Unity99 has found his/her only ally.

reply to post by Koros


And I've never been in a history class that's taught of any religion in middle school or high school not a single one. We learned only of founders of religions and what time period that's the extent we learned. I had no clue about Islam, hindu, even jewish beliefs and even though we learned about ww2 it still didn't go into beliefs and such. It isn't taught in the USA at all...my kid is in middle school now I had two other kids go through middle school, there seems to be an agenda in Canada. Like I said we never learned that stuff we learned about the greek myths and Egyptian beliefs but that was in classic lit.

I think its time to bring up an issue that shouldn't even be one, because most people I know get this. The politically correct push to accept criminal and abusive cultures as equal or on par with our own.

Racism means having prejudice against a skin color or body suit.

ISMS are thoughts, opinions, modes, cultures, political systems, economic systems and religions. They are programming. They are not body suits.

And I have quite a lot of prejudice against most things that fall into this category. And so should you. For earth is a testing ground and you're supposed to be waking up, growing up, growing love and equality in your hearts, seeing through all the BS and denouncing and renouncing it, and making a difference in the world by feeding the poor, being kind and yet standing up against all the corruption your governments allow. Such as this one.

reply to post by ldyserenity


The actual videos I was able to pull up to support this occurring were US ones, and apparently these texts are in all 50 states. So it seems to be a North American problem via our good, humble and helpful leaders who delight in serving the public to earn their extraordinary wages and pensions, or could be that called, selling out their bosses, the public, and mutiny?

I knew it, Canada is following an secret agenda of the NWO and trying to dominate the world. Shame on you in this post defending Canada`s educational system, you are only agents trying to indoctrinate us lol

reply to post by ldyserenity


I have to disagree with you (very respectfully) and let you know that as someone who did the exact same unit the OP is talking about in high school (we call it secondary school here) it is not indoctrination/agenda. It was learning the basic facts/dates/stories behind each religion such as what are the 7 tenets of Buddhism, what is the difference between polytheism and monotheism, and what region of the world was [one of the religions] founded in?

To me it would be the same as studying our system of government, and the American one and the British one just to see how they are different and the same without asking you to radically change your own.



Edited to add: OP, I am still waiting for excerpts from your son's textbook in regards to the other religions in the book and the tone in which they describe them.

Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by Koros

 

And I've never been in a history class that's taught of any religion in middle school or high school not a single one. We learned only of founders of religions and what time period that's the extent we learned. I had no clue about Islam, hindu, even jewish beliefs and even though we learned about ww2 it still didn't go into beliefs and such. It isn't taught in the USA at all...my kid is in middle school now I had two other kids go through middle school, there seems to be an agenda in Canada. Like I said we never learned that stuff we learned about the greek myths and Egyptian beliefs but that was in classic lit.

I'd be careful with your "it isn't taught in the USA at all" claim. Because, that is patently false.

I'm an American, and in history classes starting at sixth grade I learned various parts about religion. It wasn't taught to us that "____ is what you should believe." It was taught in the vein of "_____ is what this group believes."

Don't make blanket claims.

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Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by Koros

 

And I've never been in a history class that's taught of any religion in middle school or high school not a single one. We learned only of founders of religions and what time period that's the extent we learned. I had no clue about Islam, hindu, even jewish beliefs and even though we learned about ww2 it still didn't go into beliefs and such. It isn't taught in the USA at all...

Thank you for pointing out that the education system in the US has huge deficiencies. It's inconceivable to me that a whole aspect of human culture, behavior and plain history is ignored wholesale.

I practice critical thinking to the point of obsession, so no, I'm not likely to be infatuated by Islam or Torah, nor do I want somebody to proselytize to my kids. But simply knowing what' out there and what some people think is exactly what education is all about. Perhaps if Americans knew what's the beef between the Shia and the Sunni, we wouldn't have gone to Iraq in the first place. Knowledge is power. Maybe 1% know what it's about, and look at the result. Look carefully.

And you say that you "had no clue"... I wonder if anything changed.

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

LMAO, NOW THAT!

They forced me to take french in high school. You can't pass high school without 1 french credit.i sucked at that course, the teacher gave me 51 marks.

J'ai ma pelle Luciddream!

I was in the last class of the "old" program where you could get away with Grade 8 french and then in Grade 9 you could drop it and still graduate. The extent of my french (and the most helpful phrase you could ever learn) is "Je ne parle pas francais... Anglais, si'l vous plait?" Do you need a Grade 12 language to graduate now?