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Canadian Grade Eight Social Studies: Who Is The Prophet Of Muslims?

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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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But alas, what you are talking about is called Religious Studies, not be confused with social studies, and not suitable in Canadian School System for minors, which by the way is SECULAR.

 


I think you are confused:


Many such courses are interdisciplinary and draw upon various fields, including sociology but also political science, history, economics, religious studies, geography, psychology, anthropology, and civics.


en.wikipedia.org...

They aren't teaching your kid to worship god, they are teaching them of certain beliefs around the world. As someone else mentioned, it's no different than learning about Zeus and Hercules.

Completely erasing all mention of religion and religious beliefs from the curriculum is just as bad as forcing kids to take part in religious indoctrination.

You have to acknowledge its existence because these beliefs exist, and in doing so you don't have to give weight to them as long as it's not biased. Remember that they are covering the existence of beliefs, not whether or no one religion is right or wrong.

Creationism on the other hand...

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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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I have a theory.

You know how you couldn't read The Ra material or The Cassiopaean material.

I think you are already bound by them (the dark entities) and they are feeding on the negative energy you are creating. They don't want you to read the material because you may actually learn something.

You are freaking out about absolutely nothing. You are going to incite parents to get negative emotions. You will create negative emotions in the teacher or principal. All because you're upset that the school is teaching, in social studies, the study of the social aspect of life, one aspect being religions (which include new age beliefs), the topic of Islam.

You are feeding them. Everyone else you bring down just adds to their food source.

Stop freaking out about this. It is a minor study of another religion. The teacher hasn't even posed the question properly (unless you posed it incorrectly). It should be said "Who is the Prophet of Islam?".

You're better than this and this is not a big deal. I have four kids. My eldest being 8, nearly 9.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:18 AM
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Now to the point at hand Unity99 has a point.....

Correct me if I am recalling properly the social studies I was taught they included discovery of America, some WW1 and WW2 teachings mostly how/why it occured, current events and some other history. Never religion so..... um what is the deal with religious teachings all of a sudden


Also that specific type of religion being taught well I would not be surprised if the kids will be getting stones out in the near future and casting them at one another.

The only 2 I approve of is the positive teachings of Christ and Buddha those are the only that should be taught. Mainly the respect one another, give to one another, understand one another, love all unconditionally, never use violence etc. The rest is fear tactics and lies instead of the truth just adds more upon this deception.

Heck.. I had enough events, experiences in my life to become and turn to religion, yet I saw there was something wrong completely with what we are taught.

Muhammad was a prophet and a military leader is not the best role model to be teaching in social studies.
Not to sink anyone's ship or cause a religious outbreak of hate but..... Muhammad was a sick twisted individual who had intercourse with very young girls. He killed people in the name of God and trust me if there is a God that was no God asking for the blood of the innocent. I do not think a true prophet would be having intercourse with young girls and spilling the blood of innocent people.

Even Christ if he was not real would be a better role model with his teaching then Muhammad, this is also why anyone would be outraged and sense when do kids get taught such religious events/history.

Whatever, you wanna say you can say but... I am really becoming confused with humanity


edit: There are flaws in every religion.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:23 AM
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Originally posted by hououinkyouma
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You are the living proof why goverment should not serve the people. The people don`t know anything and are not in position to demand anything.


Your statement and even judgment on me is so completely ludicrous. People are the power. Government is only a humble servant. They don't play their role, but anything other than that is completely unlawful and they will pay the tab, in this life or upon leaving it.

And as for my upset at discovering that they have changed a secular education into NWO, religious history, being some kind of failure or error within me? I understand the entire world we're in, have known the problems since birth was outside at preschool age, after watching vietnam and napalm on the news, talking about how children where going to have to save the world because the adults were out to lunch and met my Higher Self that day, telling me I chose to be here.

I spent my entire life carrying the weight of the world on my shoulders, praying nightly for everyone to be safe, and walking in the shoes of every victim on the news, holding a candle to them unable to sleep.

I see through religion, politics and this world's programming.

You arent qualified to make a judgment on me.

And yes I am angry and will not allow things that are unheard of in a proper secular education, to creep in the back door.

It is unlawful and inappropriate for him to learn these things in history. Some little blurb of what some people believe, but not details of religion. Not the name of books: exodus. Not the names of myths. Not in history. Wrong context, and it reinforces lies as truth.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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Since the topics is religion here...This thing about having sex with young girls, age limits are a cultural issue and this is a western (christian) issue. Most eastern cultures don`t have a problem with that if it`s not rape or something like that.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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You're wrong.


Also, WTF??? You're against teaching about religion history, but you're FOR teaching the values of Jesus and Buddha? Did you learn what hypocrisy was in school?



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:28 AM
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They cover all the major religions so Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism, and Buddhism are the ones usually included in the unit.

Part of social studies is religion because religion is a social process that has influenced human life since its creation. Should we go through textbooks and eliminate all mentions or references to religion in relation to major events, inventions and conflicts?



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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Yours is the only sane post on this thread aside from mine. The others were like being in the twilight zone and made me wonder what the hell they have in their countries as an education or who they were working for. It was unbelievable, and even questioning my integrity, and I have met very few with that level of compassion and integrity, I'm quite aware of what a higher grade means.

I agree with Buddha and Christ, as essentials, though possibly metaphors, but not in school. Not as a part of school curriculum.

And what you remembered just a short while ago even, compared to me a little further back in time, is more comparative to my older boys, and it is what our education was just a short while ago.

And this NWO poison is going to be removed from the school system by whatever needs to be done Its child abuse.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:34 AM
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Hello?

Social Studies.

Not History/Science/Religion/Politics/Economics/Biology/Math...

SOCIAL STUDIES.




posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:35 AM
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By the responses I just read on the thread, I was wondering if they were attempting to Amercianize our education system and if others are talking nonsense, twilight crapola because this is what they've been spoon fed themselves. I guess we had more of an Australian education and it was and IS STILL secular.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by DENBY
Hello?

Social Studies.

Not History/Science/Religion/Politics/Economics/Biology/Math...

SOCIAL STUDIES.



Social Studies is Geometry and History. End of story. That is what the division is. It has nothing to do with religion. Oh, a bit of sociology, and political science thrown in.

I dont know what you guys think sociology is, but I'll give an example from memory.

Teacher: Put these countries in order of wealth: Brazil, UK, Holland and India.

Now, list these 5 counties in order of population density.

The answers would surprise you, especially when someone had already put up their hand and shared that they thought poverty related to too many poor having babies.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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You might need to consider home schooling if you are unable to allow knowledge of other cultures into your sons learning process. It was some time since I was in grade 8 but I remember these being on the curriculum and I was in a small town at that time.

Some of those who didn't tolerate Indians so well from they're family background didn't like that they had to partake in Native Studies to much either, I recall. They didn't teach truth in that curriculum I do remember though so I kind of agree with you on that.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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so you want your son to be ignorant on world affairs and different cultures.

one of the biggest threats of the 21st century, radical islamic terrorism and you don't want your kid to at least know and understand the difference between islam and radicalism.

or the faith that they claim to follow.

you'd rather have your son view anybody wearing a thawb (he won't know what that is as he will be ignorant) as a terrorist and fear them, instead of walking by normally or maybe God forbid he speak to one, ask questions and not think he'll get blown up.

or even worse, get educated by fox news or cnn.

parent of the year candidate here.

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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by hououinkyouma
Since the topics is religion here...This thing about having sex with young girls, age limits are a cultural issue and this is a western (christian) issue. Most eastern cultures don`t have a problem with that if it`s not rape or something like that.


Muhammad married Aisha when he was 53 and she was 6 years old. He had intercourse with her when she was 9. Aisha was Muhammad's favorite wife but he still punched her in the chest for leaving the house without his permission.

Should a religion that has a prophet that would get locked up as a pedophile and a wife beater be taught in social Studies class?

Perhaps, but then there is a strong argument for teaching students a balanced picture of Islam, as revealed in Islam's Koran and Hadith. In other words, both the good and the bad about Islam.

Unfortunately that would quite possibly get the school threatened with violence, which says something about Islam.

The OP has a point.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
By the responses I just read on the thread, I was wondering if they were attempting to Amercianize our education system and if others are talking nonsense, twilight crapola because this is what they've been spoon fed themselves. I guess we had more of an Australian education and it was and IS STILL secular.


Just out of curiosity, how old are you? I'm 31, and my Social Studies courses in junior high/middle school comprehensively discussed one region at a time, including geography, cuisine, religion, history, art and anything else culturally relevant. Maybe your school just sucked, which seems likely considering all the errors and misguided logical leaps you've made.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by hououinkyouma
Since the topics is religion here...This thing about having sex with young girls, age limits are a cultural issue and this is a western (christian) issue. Most eastern cultures don`t have a problem with that if it`s not rape or something like that.


Muhammad married Aisha when he was 53 and she was 6 years old. He had intercourse with her when she was 9. Aisha was Muhammad's favorite wife but he still punched her in the chest for leaving the house without his permission.

Should a religion that has a prophet that would get locked up as a pedophile and a wife beater be taught in social Studies class?

Perhaps, but then there is a strong argument for teaching students a balanced picture of Islam, as revealed in Islam's Koran and Hadith. In other words, both the good and the bad about Islam.

Unfortunately that would quite possibly get the school threatened with violence, which says something about Islam.

The OP has a point.









Hitler was bad too, let's not teach kids about him. DERP!



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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On the very (extremely) slim chance that this somehow gets into the media (highly doubt it) I encourage my fellow open minded Canadians to fight this and keep our schools educating. I want someone who knows the definition of Social Studies/Sociology to be teaching the future generations.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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Originally posted by hououinkyouma
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Since the topics is religion here...This thing about having sex with young girls, age limits are a cultural issue and this is a western (christian) issue. Most eastern cultures don`t have a problem with that if it`s not rape or something like that.


Right... so destroying the innocence of a child at a young age is normal and also where she is beaten by her husband ?

Humanity sure fell a long way down.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:50 AM
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I never Talked about beating women and never defended Mohammed, I was just citing a fact there.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by DaTroof

Hitler was bad too, let's not teach kids about him. DERP!


We teach students that Hitler was bad.

Can the same be said about Islam's founder?

Muhammad owned slaves (including some that shared his bed), encouraged his men to rape captive women (actually that was Allah through Muhammad), had opponents assassinated, executed POWs, raided caravan trains and led armies into battle to spread Islam by the sword.

How many students in Social Studies classes have been taught any of the above about Muhammad?





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