Mysterious Docs Found in Meth House Reveal Inner Workings of Dark Money Group.

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Republicans need all the help they can get!

p.s. gave ya' a star.

Ok then how about this???

Romney Avoids Taxes via Loophole Cutting Mormon Donations

In 1997, Congress cracked down on a popular tax shelter that allowed rich people to take advantage of the exempt status of charities without actually giving away much money.
Individuals who had already set up these vehicles were allowed to keep them. That included Mitt Romney, then the chief executive officer of Bain Capital, who had just established such an arrangement in June 1996.


In this instance, Romney used the tax-exempt status of a charity -- the Mormon Church, according to a 2007 filing -- to defer taxes for more than 15 years. At the same time he is benefiting, the trust will probably leave the church with less than what current law requires, according to tax returns obtained by Bloomberg this month through a Freedom of Information Act request.
In general, charities don’t owe capital gains taxes when they sell assets for a profit. Trusts like Romney’s permit funders to benefit from that tax-free treatment, said Jonathan Blattmachr, a trusts and estates lawyer who set up hundreds of such vehicles in the 1990s.

Funds held by Romney’s trust are scheduled to be distributed after the death of Romney and his wife to “a charitable organization to be designated by Romney,” according to the 2007 filing, disclosing assets he held while governor of Massachusetts. “In the absence of such a designation the funds will go to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.”

www.bloomberg.com...

LOOP HOLES, LOOP HOLES, LOOP HOLES....

Yet we continuously find away to fight amongst each other over taxes, money, etc,. When it is crystal clear who these people are and what they are doing.

As I keep adding so are new threads still discussing the same things, yet no one wants to see what is right there...

Peace, NRE.

WTF is WTP

Money Talks

a couple of articles that uhh .. kinda burn WTP/ATP.

If you hadn't heard of Western Tradition Partnership before, that may be a measure of the group's success. While publicly billing itself as "Colorado's largest and fastest-growing advocate of grassroots rational, pro-jobs environmental policies," the conservative Denver-based organization promises its corporate and private donors the ability to influence elections with absolute anonymity.

Aww did NRE just use Romney as an example??? NOPE!!

The Death of the Hunch
Campaigns used to guess which ads were most effective. Now they can prove it. How Obama’s embrace of empiricism could swing the 2012 race.

Two weeks ago, top Obama campaign advisers Jim Messina and David Axelrod announced a $25 million national television buy, a figure rightfully acknowledged with a sense of wonder, given that there were still six months to go before Election Day. But anyone waiting for coast-to-coast shock-and awe must be disappointed. The ads have rolled out at a desultory trickle: a nine-state buy for a 60-second overview of Obama’s first-term successes; a Spanish-language health-care ad running in Florida and another in English about higher-education costs appearing there and in Nevada; and a long ad about Bain Capital that reportedly cost less than $100,000 to place in markets across five states. In other words, the Obama team has broken nearly every piece of received wisdom that media consultants like to offer about the intensity and duration necessary for television ads to be successful in the modern era.
But scattered, unsustained messaging has become the unlikely hallmark of the well-funded Chicago campaign. The strategy was put into play even before Romney emerged as the Republican nominee. There was the late-November advertising run on satellite systems that the campaign called “tiny,” and then silence until a brief January broadcast-buy across six states focusing on energy, ethics, and the Koch brothers. An isolated flight of brochures about health-care legislation hit mailboxes in March, timed to Supreme Court arguments on the subject. In voluminous (if not easily audited by outsiders) online ads and targeted email blasts, the campaign has addressed seemingly every topic or theme imaginable: taxes paid by oil companies, the “war on women,” and a variety of local issues of interest in battleground states.

www.slate.com...


Obama Does It Better
When it comes to targeting and persuading voters, the Democrats have a bigger advantage over the GOP than either party has ever had in the modern campaign era.

To identify religious voters most likely to vote Republican, the group used 171 data points. It acquired megachurch membership lists. It mined public records for holders of hunting or boating licenses, and warranty surveys for people who answered yes to the question “Do you read the Bible?” … It drilled down further, looking for married voters with children, preferably owners of homes worth more than $100,000. Finally, names that overlapped at least a dozen or so data points were overlaid with voting records to yield a database with the addresses and, in many cases, e-mail addresses and cellphone numbers of the more than 17 million faith-centric registered voters—not just evangelical Protestants but also Mass-attending Catholics.

www.slate.com... tml

All that I have presented here, if you look backwards and read the last 2 posts first, and work back, you can first think that this is about democrat and republican "voters", but its not, its about who is funding and overwhelmingly bombarding people with a message that is irrelevant in this country and actually for the people.

This is all "special interests" and who can give the most money to who is looking out for them! We are the faces, and town hall meeting for the MSM, while the "back door" deals are being made in private!

Peace, NRE.

But NRE, people really arent that stupid... are they?

Hmmm ATS let me see if I can check on that... OH WAIT!!

How about this? Do you think that the people aren't controlled ( or persuaded) by "anonymous" donations??

Some say that campaign ads are getting just ridiculous. But now it’s taken a turn to the truly bizarre. An Indiana man has auctioned off space on the side of his head, where he tattooed Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign “R” logo in a 5-by-2-inch spot for a bid of $15, 000.
Eric Hartsburg posted the eBay listing in August, and told ABC News that he was paid $15,000 by a Republican eBay user, who preferred to remain anonymous, to get the Romney logo permanently inked on the side of his head. Hartsburg, who is an Indiana native, told ABC News that he agreed because the tattoo was something that he could live with.

abcnews.go.com...


Peace, NRE.

Seriously Im giving this a bump, and I will bump this until the election and then a bit after that, while I watch thread after thread discuss and debate the things here that can get them to focus on the real issues.

Peace, NRE.

Originally posted by cartenz

Originally posted by pngxp
people spending their time and money trying to protect their interest??? NO WAY!!!

Sacrasm aside, there are some who can put political and personal interests aside to work toward a greater good, Im saddened that you are blind to this.

Perhaps you are, but not everyone is a selfless paragon of virtue like yourself. Most people--and by "most" I mean "very nearly all"--live their lives and make their choices based on their own self interests and, to a lesser degree, the interests of their family and loved ones(which usually coincide with their own anyway). This does not make them evil people, it just means they're human.

For instance, a person who dedicates their life to doing charitable works usually does so because it gives them a sense of fulfillment. It makes them happy. So, doing that kind of work was in their own self-interest.

If you look closely, all choices are made using self-interest as the deciding factor, on a fundamental level. When someone asks another person for a favor, and it is something that they really do not want to do(for whatever reason), but they do it anyway, it may appear on the surface to be an act of selflessness but it is a certainty that self-interest is at the root of it. Maybe helping people, or that person in particular, simply makes them happy, even if the task itself is onerous...or perhaps they do it because they know they will feel bad if they don't.
This is not to suggest that all choices lead us to greater happiness. If that were true, we would all be sublimely ecstatic all the time, which is obviously not the case. The choices are made with happiness in mind, but we're not always correct in our judgement of what will make us happy, or long term vs. short term happiness.

Governmental and Economic systems should be constructed based on how people actually are--that is, guided almost solely by their own self-interest--not how you wish them to be.

Besides, what hubris must you have to think you know what a "greater good" would be, or how to "work toward" it?

Found the link to the show online:

www.pbs.org...

went back read thru again and saw the other guy got it fixed already.. cool

anyway the web site is this:

"http: // www.pbs.org/wgbh.pages/frontline/big-sky-big-money/" (remove the quotations and extra spaces)

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
But NRE, people really arent that stupid... are they?

Hmmm ATS let me see if I can check on that... OH WAIT!!

How about this? Do you think that the people aren't controlled ( or persuaded) by "anonymous" donations??

Some say that campaign ads are getting just ridiculous. But now it’s taken a turn to the truly bizarre. An Indiana man has auctioned off space on the side of his head, where he tattooed Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign “R” logo in a 5-by-2-inch spot for a bid of $15, 000.
Eric Hartsburg posted the eBay listing in August, and told ABC News that he was paid $15,000 by a Republican eBay user, who preferred to remain anonymous, to get the Romney logo permanently inked on the side of his head. Hartsburg, who is an Indiana native, told ABC News that he agreed because the tattoo was something that he could live with.

abcnews.go.com...


Peace, NRE.

*insert your prefered higher power here* help us all.

These are the people who need to be bricked.