Originally posted by muse7
Always funny to see the Republican zombies reduced to blabbering after Romney gets exposed time after time.
I guess the official quote from Chrysler that states that they are not shutting down plants in the U.S. isn't good enough.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by xuenchen
Except they corrected him. They told him it was false. They said it wasn't true.
Did he listen? Nope.
Was there an add put out enforcing that after the fact? Yup.
Instead he ran with it which is where the lie lays.
Jeeps have been built and/or assembled around the world by various companies.
 Argentina – IKA Jeeps 1956–current; now owned by Chrysler
 Australia – Willys Motors Australia – 1940s–1980s
 Brazil – Willys Overland do Brasil, purchased by Ford to become Ford do Brasil – 1957–1985
 and the Troller T4 is a fiberglass bodied Jeep version built in Brazil. Troller was purchased by Ford do Brasil in 2007. Burma/Myanmar – Two Burmese companies produce unlicensed copies of jeeps; Myanmar Jeeps and Chin Dwin Star Jeeps. Canada – Kaiser Jeep – 1959–1969
 China – Beijing Jeep Corporation – 1983 to 2009 as Beijing-Benz DaimlerChrysler Automotive. Fiat-Chrysler plans to re-open Jeep production in China through joint venture with Guangzhou Automobile Industry Group (GAIG).
 Colombia – Willys Colombia – at least until 1999
 Egypt – Arab Organization for Industrialization subsidiary Arab American Vehicles based in Cairo produces the Jeep Cherokee[disambiguation needed]; the open-top, Wrangler-based Jeep AAV TJL. France – Hotchkiss and Auverland – 1952–1962
 India – Mahindra & Mahindra Limited – 1960s-current
 Iran – Pars Khodro, ShahBaaz, Sahra, and Ahoo – ShahBaaz based on DJ series, Sahra based on Jeep Wrangler and CJ series, and Ahoo based on Wagoneer Israel – Automotive Industries which produces the AIL Storm (Sufa) series of Jeep Wrangler-derivatives Italy – 1950s
 Japan – Mitsubishi Jeeps – 1953–1998
 Korea – Asia Motors, Ltd, Dong A Motors (SsangYong Motor Company) and Kia. (don't use Jeep name) – 1980s-current
 Mexico – VAM Jeeps – 1946–1987
 Netherlands – Nederlandse Kaiser-Frazer – 1954-1990s
Philippines – Jeepneys
; MD Juan Willys MB.;
 "E-jeepneys" or minibuses, LSV (low-speed vehicles) which uses electricity.
Portugal – Bravia – 1960s–1980s
Spain – Vehículos Industriales y Agrícolas, S.A. (VIASA), absorbed by Ebro trucks, and later sold to Nissan – 1960-1990s
Turkey – Tuzla – 1954-1970s
Venezuela- Valencia Carabobo 1962–2011, 1962 Tejerias Edo Aragua Willys de Venezuela, S.A, 1979 -2011 Ensambladora Carabobo C.A Valencia Edo Carabobo
The choice of Changsha to build the 220-story super structure may have been mere coincidence, but interestingly, the small town is home to the likes of China’s largest construction machinery maker Sany Heavy Industry, state-owned Changsha Zoomlion Heavy Industry Science and Technology Development Co., and Fiat’s car production venture with Guangzhou Automobile Industry Group.
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by snarky412
It would appear they have both at least twisted the truth on this subject matter. However when people died, Obama lied. Not such a tough choice here...
Originally posted by muse7
reply to post by snarky412
Obama saved the U.S. Auto industry.
If you want to twist the facts to suit your beliefs then go ahead, but the truth is that millions more would be unemployed if Obama hadn't approved the bail out for the car industry.
Under Capitalism a corporation can do almost anything in order to make more profits, and if that means expanding production to other countries then they are free to do that.
But that's going off topic.
Mitt Romney is a liar
that's the topic
Obama talks about the auto bailout frequently, since it's one of the few things in his record that gets positive responses in the polls. But he's probably wise to avoid probing questions, since the GM bailout is not at all the success he claims.
GM has been selling cars in the U.S. at deep discount and, while it's making money in China -- and is outsourcing operations there and elsewhere -- it's bleeding losses in Europe. It's spending billions to ditch its Opel brand there in favor of Chevrolet, including $559 million to put the Chevy logo on Manchester United soccer team uniforms -- and just fired the marketing exec who cut that deal.
It botched the launch of its new Chevrolet Malibu by starting with the green-friendly Eco version, which pleased its government shareholders, but which got lousy reviews. And it's selling only about 10,000 electric-powered Chevy Volts a year, a puny contribution toward Obama's goal of 1 million electric vehicles on the road by 2015.
"GM is going from bad to worse," reads the headline on Automotive News Editor in Chief Keith Crain's analysis. That's certainly true of its stock price.
The government still owns 500 million shares of GM, 26 percent of the total. It needs to sell them for $53 a share to recover its $49.5 billion bailout. But the stock price is around $20 a share, and the Treasury now estimates that the government will lose more than $25 billion if and when it sells.
That's in addition to the revenue lost when the Obama administration permitted GM to continue to deduct previous losses from current profits, even though such deductions are ordinarily wiped out in bankruptcy proceedings.
Coming hot on the heels of speculation that some Jeep production may be moved to China comes a bombshell from a Bloomberg report. Fiat is now considering moving Chrysler and Jeep production to Italy.
"To counter the severe slump in European sales, (Fiat CEO Sergio) Marchionne is considering building Chrysler models in Italy, including Jeeps, for export to North America. The Italian government is evaluating tax rebates on export goods to help Fiat. Marchionne may announce details of his plan as soon as Oct. 30, the people said."