Originally posted by Red Cloak
All of the "HAARP does NOT produce hurricanes and this has been PROVEN" people are shills.

You have absolutely no proof that it can do anything of the sort, so how can you possibly call people "shills" over that? In order to have legs to stand on with that argument, you actually have to be able to prove that they are wrong, and you cannot do that.

The fact is that the technology that is used with HAARP isnt even remotely capable of creating or steering a hurricane. This is not saying that HAARP could not be used for less-than-respectable things in this world, but creating and steering hurricanes is most certainly not one of them.

Originally posted by Red Cloak
All of the "HAARP does NOT produce hurricanes and this has been PROVEN" people are shills.

not all,
most are delusional, live in lala land,
and believe the state is their friend or benefactor

that said you can tell who's a shill and who are the kool-aid drinkers
by their arguments, the kool-aid regurgitation brigade, is still using the old playbook
the shills are improvising while the new one is being distributed

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by Red Cloak
All of the "HAARP does NOT produce hurricanes and this has been PROVEN" people are shills.

You have absolutely no proof that it can do anything of the sort, so how can you possibly call people "shills" over that? In order to have legs to stand on with that argument, you actually have to be able to prove that they are wrong, and you cannot do that.

The fact is that the technology that is used with HAARP isnt even remotely capable of creating or steering a hurricane. This is not saying that HAARP could not be used for less-than-respectable things in this world, but creating and steering hurricanes is most certainly not one of them.

How do you know?

Originally posted by jude11
Just something picking at the back of my mind. Perhaps it's because of being on ATS too long or it's just that I believe nothing is merely a coincidence anymore.

1. Many are thinking this is being produced or at least enhanced by HAARP. Is this being used to delay elections?

2. Is it as serious as what is being reported? Will it fizzle out with only a whisper of a disaster with millions not being able to use subways, buses etc? Power out, cell towers destroyed and land lines down?

3. People are facing a MANDATORY evacuation thus leaving many areas empty and without witnesses. Perfect situation to move in and set explosives or...?

4. Can something be "Planted" or "Set" in order to set a false flag?

5. Obama needs an event to either stall or cancel elections in order to remain at the helm. Is this it? Will elections be delayed because of a State of Emergency scenario?

So many questions, so little time. Sandy is upon us.

Just asking what others are thinking...For me, my Spidey senses are tingling.

Peace

edit on 28-10-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)

I was thinking the same thing. What about how Germany wants to audit their gold, what if the storm was made to clear the streets and cut the power to the fed, so that they could put the gold back. Then the Germans could come adn count their gold. No one would ever be the wiser of the theft and return.

there are a least 5 nuke plants with problems now, what are the chances that at least one of them was pre existent to sandy? while it may be possible for haarp to steer a hurricane, it is just as possible that another G.E reactor has been having issues for a while due to neglect, and will be blamed on mother nature.

At the very least, I think it's safe to say they're using this as a distraction for talking about Bengzahi right before the election.

i thought it was weird that they had a mandatory evac, for areas not even that bad,(not all) then i read stories of several nuke plants along coast that may fail do to flooding. DO TO FLOODING! WHO DESIGNS THESE PIECE OF CRAPS. i thought the whole point was to flood them(sarc)

so basically my gist of the situation is that they have several old nuke plants that are already on the brink of going up and instead of just saying, hey these plants might fukashima, well just evac under hurricane and that way we wont make the people who pay alot for local/national elections votes mad ^^. or if some radiation does get out, i can protect my croney partners from getting law suits. i wouldnt be surprised in the least that the very same plants have been leaking for a while now and this is just going make it worse and they wanted people to evac since the radiation would mix with flood water and spread further. but who really knows.
was there an evac drill in area due to radiation anything? that seems to be their m.o now, stage a little event drill to give people a chance to get out of area? false flag? only if incompetence counts?

Well I have not seen what h.a.r.p can do, I wont claim what it can do. But what I do know as fact, half the patents for this thing states right on the PATENT for puposes of weather modification among a list of 15 other abilities.. Im pretty sure when it gets that far they have some kind of proof, he?

but the basics is you have an invention, its unique, you dont want others to copy it, so you get a patent. in doing so you have to prove it can do what it says. now im sure if you pay enough people you can write what eva ya want, but they have kept the rights to it for what over 30-35 years now? and is still operated around the world and has more stations.

People that think that HAARP is capable of creating a cloud, let alone a hurricane, really need to understand what it is, and the technology it uses to accomplish it. It is not a secret, the entire specs are public and you can get as deep into it as you want. So, please do that and perhaps it will cut down on the absolute foolishness that flows around this site about it. Enough is Enough.

Lets wait and see. If this is caused by HAARP, then I think something bigger than the election is the reason for it. Why would they mess with the election? Its rigged anyway.

It would make more sense to create a Hurricane to destroy whats left of fukushima, to really cause havoc. Or use HAARP to create an earthquake in that area.

The stock market theory doesnt make sense either. You could probably shut that place down with a simple phone call (bomb threat) and get the same effect. Creating a hurricane seems a bit overkill.

Just not sure why its New York that is being targeted. But we will know soon enough probably.