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Monster Energy and the Waters of Mem (Mother) - Oedipus and Sudden Realization (Peripeteia)

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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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Your under a veil and you don't know the rules of the game but you feel you can tell us what is truth and what isn't?


Actually, I gave my interpretation and invited others to do the same. Check the questions in the OP. You are welcome to give your own interpretation, yet the symbols speak for themselves. Someone who did that ad campaign knew why they were inserting each of the symbols, just as this guy knew why the Orphan Annie Cartoon was presented as a symbol of Daddy Warbucks (War profiteer).

Follow the Thread as the Masons reveal the secrets of the Heberw Vav

The Masons in the thread above helped me solve the cartoon symbolism. Compare my avatar closely. What has changed with the dog? We all have meaning in our symbols and those meanings are intentional.




Do you see three Vavs in the cartoon? The Dog is God backwards. Also symbolic of the dog star. Daddy has a dollar sign as he is the warbucks man profiting from war. Created by a Freemason. Notice the girl has no pupils. The dog's one eye is opened with an arrow pointing to the vav of his eyebrow to the open eye and Annie. See?





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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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If angels can speak wifi then they would just transmit directly? How could routing messages through music videos and other media be more efficient. If an angel wants to send a message they have to wait for a pop star to finish production of his latest video so that the message can be sent. Sorry but that is illogical.


I said nothing of angels speaking wifi. I asked if you could? The irony of why you miss this is the same reason symbols are used to transmit knowledge.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is an incongruity between the literal and the implied meaning.

Not to beat a dead horse here, but I wanted to connect ignoring truth with the symbolic nature of how true knowledge is gained.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Actually, I gave my interpretation and invited others to do the same. Check the questions in the OP. You are welcome to give your own interpretation, yet the symbols speak for themselves.

Well my interpretation is that they are nothing important. The symbols in Little Orphan Annie are a wink and a nod from one mason to those who can recognize them but any important information would be communicated through other means and that is totally different than angels speaking wifi.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight
I said nothing of angels speaking wifi. I asked if you could? The irony of why you miss this is the same reason symbols are used to transmit knowledge.

Actually you said:


Why can't you speak wifi? It is not within your limits and abilities to speak wifi so you use a modem. Just because we are not reading the signal does not mean that Angels can't.

I took "wifi" to mean whatever means they have to communicate. It has got to be easier then hidden symbols in pop culture.
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
Actually, I gave my interpretation and invited others to do the same. Check the questions in the OP. You are welcome to give your own interpretation, yet the symbols speak for themselves.

Well my interpretation is that they are nothing important. The symbols in Little Orphan Annie are a wink and a nod from one mason to those who can recognize them but any important information would be communicated through other means and that is totally different than angels speaking wifi.


Again, Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is an incongruity between the literal and the implied meaning. WIKI



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
I said nothing of angels speaking wifi. I asked if you could? The irony of why you miss this is the same reason symbols are used to transmit knowledge.

Actually you said:


Why can't you speak wifi? It is not within your limits and abilities to speak wifi so you use a modem. Just because we are not reading the signal does not mean that Angels can't.

I took "wifi" to mean whatever means they have to communicate. It has got to be easier then hidden symbols in pop culture.
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And by, "The Signal" I am speaking of the topic of the answer to you about symbolism. Incongruity I suppose.

You should watch this video:

Freemasons reveal their own secrets as they remain hidden. It's called sigil magic and is used in advertising to gain customers by Linguistic Programming and embedding of hidden information to the subconscious. Like I said earlier, it's crop circles for the mind.





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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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What is ironic? I never said hidden messages don't exist just that they are not from god or angels. There is no real meaning other than "hey I'm part of the club".
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by daskakik
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What is ironic? I never said hidden messages don't exist just that they are not from god or angels. There is no real meaning other than "hey I'm part of the club".
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You are ignoring the fact that a higher intelligence and information exists beyond that of human intelligence. Don't all rivers flow from a source? Is the source higher or lower? Nature can reveal this to you. Science says we come from our star and moon in union. Can consciousness, higher than either the sun or moon, flow upward to rise above the source? No. Consciousness is the observer that collapses the wave function to make a choice. Matter cannot create something higher than itself.

The more plausible explanation is that we have a higher source. Ignorance is ignoring the facts.



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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight
You are ignoring the fact that a higher intelligence and information exists beyond that of human intelligence. Don't all rivers flow from a source? Is the source higher or lower? Nature can reveal this to you. Science says we come from our star and moon in union. Can consciousness, higher than either the sun or moon, flow upward to rise above the source? No. Consciousness is the observer that collapses the wave function to make a choice. Matter cannot create something higher than itself.

The more plausible explanation is that we have a higher source. Ignorance is ignoring the facts.

No I'm not. I'm saying that a higher source would have better ways of communicating than hidden symbols in print, music and video.

Your the one ignoring the fact that the system you propose was developed by men thousands of years ago. Why would something more advanced or higher use something like that?
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
You are ignoring the fact that a higher intelligence and information exists beyond that of human intelligence. Don't all rivers flow from a source? Is the source higher or lower? Nature can reveal this to you. Science says we come from our star and moon in union. Can consciousness, higher than either the sun or moon, flow upward to rise above the source? No. Consciousness is the observer that collapses the wave function to make a choice. Matter cannot create something higher than itself.

The more plausible explanation is that we have a higher source. Ignorance is ignoring the facts.

No I'm not. I'm saying that a higher source would have better ways of communicating than hidden symbols in print, music and video.

Your the one ignoring the fact that the system you propose was developed by men thousands of years ago. Why would something more advanced or higher use something like that?
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True for God. God speaks by the wave of creation. As for the fallen angels, they are locked in chains so I suppose they are doing the best they can.

Jude 1

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Also, consider this quote from the book of Jubilees:

And the Lord destroyed everything from off the face of the earth; because of the wickedness of their deeds, and because of the blood which they had shed in the midst of the earth 26 He destroyed everything. 'And we were left, I and you, my sons, and everything that entered with us into the ark, and behold I see your works before me that ye do not walk in righteousness: for in the path of destruction ye have begun to walk, and ye are parting one from another, and are envious one of another, and (so it comes) that ye are not in harmony, my sons, each with his brother. 27 For I see, and behold the demons have begun (their) seductions against you and against your children and now I fear on your behalf, that after my death ye will shed the blood of men upon the earth, 28 and that ye, too, will be destroyed from the face of the earth.

I am helping you embrace truth. I don't have all the answers, but I did stay in a a Holiday Inn Express once.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight
True for God. God speaks by the wave of creation. As for the fallen angels, they are locked in chains so I suppose they are doing the best they can.

That is a cop out. This doesn't sound like chains to me.

"The Lord said to Satan, "Whence have you come?" Satan answered The Lord, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it." (Job 1:7 RSV)


I am helping you embrace truth. I don't have all the answers, but I did stay in a a Holiday Inn Express once.

No you are not, you are trying to convince me to believe in something that isn't true.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
True for God. God speaks by the wave of creation. As for the fallen angels, they are locked in chains so I suppose they are doing the best they can.

That is a cop out. This doesn't sound like chains to me.

"The Lord said to Satan, "Whence have you come?" Satan answered The Lord, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it." (Job 1:7 RSV)


I am helping you embrace truth. I don't have all the answers, but I did stay in a a Holiday Inn Express once.

No you are not, you are trying to convince me to believe in something that isn't true.


The light can only reveal what it hits. You can't use the Bible to prove your point if you say it is not true. This is duplicity. I hold the Bible to be true so I can take that quote and apply it correctly. Satan is subservient to God and restricted. He needed permission to interact with Job.

This document from the Dead Sea Scrolls shows why and gives you the answer to how communication from each side of light or darkness is accomplished. Have you heard the song, "The Impression that I Get?" What is knocking on wood?

Communication is the response you get. God is not the one who needs to communicate truth to you. He has already done so. It's our job to respond as a mirror reflection of his will to give and receive.

John 2:

23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.

This Document



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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If you can't find it, here it is:

"Yet the God of Israel (and the Angel of His Truth) assist all the Sons of Light. It is actually He who created the spirits of Light and darkness, making them cornerstone of every deed, their impulses and premise of every action. God’s love for on spirit lasts forever. He will be pleased with its actions for always. The counsel of the other, however, He abhors, hating its every impulse for all time.

Upon Earth their operations are these: one enlightens a man’s mind, marking straight before him the paths of true righteousness and causing his heart to fear the laws of God. This spirit engenders humility, patience, abundant compassion, perpetual goodness, insight, understanding, and powerful wisdom resonating to each of God’s deeds, sustained by His constant faithfulness. It engenders a spirit knowledgeable in every plan of action, zealous for the laws of righteousness, holy in its thoughts, and steadfast in purpose. This spirit encourages plenteous compassion upon all who hold fast to truth, and glorious purity combined with visceral hatred of impurity in its every guise. It results in humble deportment allied with a general discernment, concealing the truth, that is, the mysteries of knowledge. To these ends is the earthly counsel of the spirit to those whose nature yearns for truth. "

If you do not year for truth, you are ignoring it.

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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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I can use the words you consider true against you're argument because you hold them to be true. Apply it correctly? God is asking where he had been as if he didn't know. Sorry but your truth is full of holes.

You yourself said in an earlier thread that you don't know what fallen angels are allowed or not allowed to do. Know you seem to be implying that they are only allowed to communicate in the way the OP proposes.

Sorry but it still looks like a cop out to me.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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This has nothing to do with the OP and the supposed hidden message in the Monster Energy Drink label. It also doesn't address what limits these spirits have in luring man.

ETA: I do yearn for truth, that is why I'm questioning what you are trying to pass off as truth.

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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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I can use the words you consider true against you're argument because you hold them to be true. Apply it correctly? God is asking where he had been as if he didn't know. Sorry but your truth is full of holes.

You yourself said in an earlier thread that you don't know what fallen angels are allowed or not allowed to do. Know you seem to be implying that they are only allowed to communicate in the way the OP proposes.

Sorry but it still looks like a cop out to me.


There is a larger context to consider and anyone who denies the possibility will never see it. I can't help you beyond the 10,000 pages of replies I have already posted on ATS. If they are ignored, the overall context is lost on you. Only a seeker can see the answers. Seeking and knocking is the only path to sight. I wish you well and I hope you decide to pay attention at some point.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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This has nothing to do with the OP and the supposed hidden message in the Monster Energy Drink label. It also doesn't address what limits these spirits have in luring man.

ETA: I do yearn for truth, that is why I'm questioning what you are trying to pass off as truth.

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Keep in mind that God is truth and there is no other that will lead you to the correct path of giving and receiving. God's will can be identified clearly by giving and receiving. Taking is the hallmark of the thief. God gives life and can require it back. It's not something we can claim with ownership as the Spirit we use is the mind of God. It's always been his to retain or give. You must be born again is symbolic of immersion of our soul (also created by God) into the water (also created by God). The limit on our life is a limit of repentance before judgment. Baptism is our immersion for this purpose. God gives a gift and we can deny it or embrace it. Seeking is the only way, but faith is the foundation of the search. Hope is what we desire, but duplicity is pride that gets in our way. If we seek good for reward, duplicity is what we express. If we seek good to avoid judgment, we are again expressing duplicity. God must be gained for the right reason of love and the expression of His will to give and receive. Duplicity takes for self.

If you seek for the right reasons, you will see.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 06:45 PM
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Sorry but I think you are wrong. God doesn't want you to know the truth because he needs you to be subservient. He's the one keeping you in chains. You probably can't see the truth in that.

I have pointed out where the logic in the OP fails yet you would still rather carry on like you are the one offering truth to me. The only thing you have to fall back on is vague phrases but the fact is that you don't know.

I don't care what 10,000 pages of replies may say because the one post that says "That is part of the mystery", when pressed for an answer, shows that you are as far from the truth as everyone else.

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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Sorry but I think you are wrong. God is not truth but you probably can't see the truth in that.

I have pointed out where the logic in the OP fails yet you would still rather carry on like you are the one offering truth to me. The only thing you have to fall back on is vague phrases but the fact is that you don't know.

I don't care what 10,000 pages of replies may say because the one post that says "That is part of the mystery", when pressed for an answer, shows that you are as far from the truth as everyone else.


Seeds that are pressed in the millstone burst out, just as a baby was information that grew and burst from the opening. Water comes from the ground by the same process. Plant the seeds and they grow. Pressure is necessary for the process. I assume the seed that I plant are good if they grow. The soil needs to be good as well. Time will tell.

Hebrews Lexicon word number 2811.

BURST and GRAIN

The word burst is what happens when the grain is pressed in the millstone. The pressure shoots the seed from the ear of grain. It is also the bursting of water, as in a tear. Notice that ear and eye gather information and the ear of the seed is the information for the next generation. What is gathered is the grain and the grain is what bursts forth from pressing and pressure. What causes a tear to come forward? Pressure. What does the tear represent? Information and learning as the person expresses emotion.

Revelation 7:17
For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; ‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’ ‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’ ”

Why does the removal of the clouds and the relation to the lamb remove tears? Faith become fact. We know as we are known. Love removes the pressure of sin and shame.

See this thread: LINK

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