reply to post by AfterInfinity
That's the heart of the matter. Thanks infinity.
I know exactly how it feels to be conflicted when near religious persons. The rational part of my mind wants to correct them, but I also feel sorry
for them. I shutup. I wish them a good life.
The sum of it is that we can't stop death and we can't reach out beyond the limitations of this life to fully grasp the meaning of everything.
There're a slew of questions that're impossible to answer. Thus, it makes sense to believe whatever makes us feel good. Believing that after you die
you'll live in heaven is better than believing your mind will terminate and your body will be worm food. Similarly, if you're a chicken that's trapped
in a slaughterhouse, it's better to believe that all the pain has a higher purpose and that when you die you'll go to heaven than it's to believe in
If somebody wants to believe they'll be worm food after they die and that their consciousness ends forever then fine. If a chicken wants to believe
it's just a factory product then fine.
But if I was a chicken in a slaughterhouse, I'd rather believe in something more. If I have no hope of changing the reality then what's the point in
filling my mind with despair. Imagine if you're a chicken trapped in a cage and your leg is broke. What hope is there? NONE. So believe you will.
Maybe you'll believe in the mythical Chosen One - like in the Matrix - who'll free all the chickens. If that's too ambitious then maybe you'll just
believe that the pain of this life ensures a glorious after-life.
There's a reason 90% of people believe in God. This is it.
Know what else? I don't believe we're alone. I believe the animals do this too. Their concept of God will be much simpler and not require 1000+ page
texts or immense religious orders.
One way I deal with the thought of death is I imagine that we touch immortality through our children and through others around us. See, if I lived X
years, I'd experience X change. Between every person on earth there's X change. Now if you find the point where this is equal to the number of years I
have to live to reach that level of change then you'll see that they're, for the most part, interchangeable. Based on this, I kind of look at children
and other people as other parts of me that may have been or are yet to be. I look at all the future generations as a version of my own self if I had
lived for eons and eons. This allows me to touch immortality without actually living forever.
To explain this idea further, lets say that in 80 years I experience X change. Lets say that this amount of change is equal to the average amount of
change between any two people on earth. I can't say what I'll be in 80 years, you know? I could end up being a lot of things. And this is true for
everyone. Our identity is constantly shifting around. Even the atoms in our body are always moving. In every several year interval the atoms in our
body are completely new. There're of course some things that don't change a whole lot. This idea ain't 100% preservative. However, the point is that
since I don't know exactly how I'll change after 80 years then I may as well pick at random somebody on the street and say "Hello, so we meet again!"
They'll say "Hmm?" I'll laugh conspiratorially.
Tomorrow I might wake up and change the idea. But for now it seems to click.
And one last thing. By dying we keep our identity as-is. If we lived forever we'd have an infinite number of identities. I think after 100000000000000
identities it'd start to feel meaningless? By dying we ensure that the cycle ends and that our identity sticks and either is remembered that way or is
just forgotten. But is that such a bad thing? Everything gets forgotten whether we live forever or not. But a person that lives forever is going to
have a lot more names and won't be remembered the same way as a person that has died since their identity is always shifting around.
Rama Revealed is an interesting book to read.
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