The Institutions of Faith are on Their Knees, The Age Of Reason Dawns!

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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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The Institutions of Faith are on Their Knees, The Age Of Reason Dawns!

After dec21 these Institutions of Faith will fall
(within a few years or so)

The banksters know things are going to change (fiat is faith) as people awaken to the lies en mass after dec 21, Dont let them microchip you no matter what, free will

This is the last pope the next dude will be an administrator dolling out the immense tracts of land and amassed wealth from 2000 years of conquest

Dec21 will be a day like any other, be at peace, forgive now its time

Live Long and Prosper
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Please enlighten me: How are any of the great world religions going to fall after December 21, given that none of them have absolutely anything to do with that date?

The only faith that's going to fall any time after December will be the "New Age Faith".



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Your welcome to your opinion, the faith based institutions will fall as we will be in the age of reason

you dont know the church is falling ?

to be enlightened you cant worship ANYTHING, nothing
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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Not much to go on here, maybe you could try and elaborate.

Reason as well as faith can be twisted and manipulated toward carnal and selfish desires, so if true, I doubt there will be any real changes for the better.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
Not much to go on here, maybe you could try and elaborate.

Reason as well as faith can be twisted and manipulated toward carnal and selfish desires, so if true, I doubt there will be any real changes for the better.


Yes it will get worse before it gets better
many changes will happen, some good, some bad



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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I guess when Thomas Paine wrote the Age of Reason he was a bit too early. Sorry we were almost there but I think it was slightly ahead of its time, where Reason and Faith were to coexist. The 18th century saw the birth of the Age of Reason but it has been beaten back severely as if Galileo himself was proclaiming once again that the solar system is heliocentric.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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eugenicsanddepopulation.blogspot.ca...

You mean, like the Georgia Guidestones stated? This same guidestone who promotes an age of "reason", depopulation, eugenism and conversion to New Age of Aquarius religion with its Goddess Mother Nature (Gaia)?



1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.

The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think. We ignore that message at our peril.

Copies are available for researchers from Radio Liberty.


Sure, it look cool at the first glance: so does cigarette, but it induces cancer.
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by hdonn


Live Long and Prosper


Since when does does the age of reason include Star Trek quotes?




posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Because star trek is real, right? I mean, surely it's not a science-FICTION.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by hdonn
 


I guess when Thomas Paine wrote the Age of Reason he was a bit too early. Sorry we were almost there but I think it was slightly ahead of its time, where Reason and Faith were to coexist. The 18th century saw the birth of the Age of Reason but it has been beaten back severely as if Galileo himself was proclaiming once again that the solar system is heliocentric.


We entered the 1st rays of the new age in Napoleans time, notice how things sped up then, inventions and revolutions for freedom

dec21 we will be in its FULL light
like when you move a torch beam onto an object the side of the light touches the object first

Galileo was the beginning of the end for the church, he showed everyone the bible is mostly fables of long ago

he struck the sword deep into the church
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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So to ask then, when did it all 'begin'. I used Galileo (early 17th century) as a mere reference since his views were that of Copernicus (early 16th century) and Paine along with others (late 18th century).

By mere use of words you implicate that the Age of Reason is "dawning" on Dec 21, 2012. The word dawning, defined as follows: A first appearance; a beginning. Yet you claim it appeared or started in a different time.....
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by hdonn

Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
Not much to go on here, maybe you could try and elaborate.

Reason as well as faith can be twisted and manipulated toward carnal and selfish desires, so if true, I doubt there will be any real changes for the better.


Yes it will get worse before it gets better
many changes will happen, some good, some bad


Very evasive and vague answer, the type a "psychic" might use in a prediction. Please elaborate on the original post so I can understand what you are trying to put forth here.

I think I'm getting it after reading your reply to ownbestenemy, but I'd like to hear more.
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by swan001
reply to post by hdonn
 

eugenicsanddepopulation.blogspot.ca...

You mean, like the Georgia Guidestones stated? This same guidestone who promotes an age of "reason", depopulation, eugenism and conversion to New Age of Aquarius religion with its Goddess Mother Nature (Gaia)?



1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.

The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think. We ignore that message at our peril.

Copies are available for researchers from Radio Liberty.


Sure, it look cool at the first glance: so does cigarette, but it induces cancer.
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Humans are meant to realize if you breed like fly's you die like flies
and the planet is NOT infinite

natural forces will do it or we need to think
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy
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So to ask then, when did it all 'begin'. I used Galileo (early 17th century) as a mere reference since his views were that of Copernicus (early 16th century) and Paine along with others (late 18th century).

By mere use of words you implicate that the Age of Reason is "dawning" on Dec 21, 2012. The word dawning, defined as follows: A first appearance; a beginning. Yet you claim it appeared or started in a different time.....
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the first day in the new age will be dec21



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 01:27 PM
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Why the winter solstice as the beginning? What happens then to usher in this new age of reason?

That date seems to have no reason other than some belief in pagan faith or occult belief. Give us the reason for this new age of reason.
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by hdonn

Originally posted by ownbestenemy
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So to ask then, when did it all 'begin'. I used Galileo (early 17th century) as a mere reference since his views were that of Copernicus (early 16th century) and Paine along with others (late 18th century).

By mere use of words you implicate that the Age of Reason is "dawning" on Dec 21, 2012. The word dawning, defined as follows: A first appearance; a beginning. Yet you claim it appeared or started in a different time.....
edit on 28-10-2012 by ownbestenemy because: (no reason given)


the first day in the new age will be dec21



perhaps but it won't a dawning of an age of reason
The Age Of Reason is past it's High Noontide


THE PSYCHOHISTORIC MECHANISM OF THE AEONS

A superficial examination of the paradigms which have dominated aeons of cultural development indicates that three major worldviews have arisen to dominance in succession. These are the magical, transcendental, and materialist paradigms. A simple picture of these views rising successively to prominence has a certain descriptive use, but it lacks explanatory or predictive power and cannot account for the persistence or resurgence of a particular paradigm at some other point in cultural development. For this a more sophisticated model is required which includes a consideration of the various opposition philosophies which invariably complement the prevailing cultural paradigm. If the linear time frame of materialism and transcendentalism is combined with the cyclic Of recurrent time frame of magical philosophy, a graph can be derived which represents both the dominant and opposition paradigms in a form which exhibits considerable explanatory and predictive power, the Psychohistory model.



If there is a tide in the affairs of men then it is caused by deep changes in our views of self and reality, and politics are mere eddies and ripples on its surface. Armed with the psychohistoric model of aeonic change, the magician can readily see what factors he or she should work on to hasten, impede or reverse aeonic development in a particular culture or sub-culture.
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However, one hopes that the primary concern for contemporary magic is to ensure the safe and speedy birth of the pandemonaeon from within nihilist culture. To assist in this transition. magical philosophy must strive for three things. Firstly, it must strive to eliminate any remaining transcendental or religious concepts which still contaminate it. These are destined for the dustbin of history for a long while. and when they eventually reemerge it will be in a completely different form anyway. No useful part of magic ought to be thrown away with them. Secondly. it must seek to present its ideas and techniques using maximum rational camouflage. Magic must enter popular consciousness using a series of Trojan horses. Thirdly. as a precautionary measure. magic should attempt to undermine the decaying remnants of monotheism without offering itself as a target in the process. For example, parapsychology is a threat to fundamentalism as it can show that " miracles" do not prove anything other than that some people can sometimes exercise miraculous abilities. On the other hand. the existence of various idiotic satanic cults often provides very convenient enemy figures for fundamentalists who often tend to invent them if they do not actually exist. Dangerous times lie ahead. Millennial apocalyptic beliefs present in monotheism may still yet trigger disaster during the death spasms of transcendentalism. A fierce rearguard action may be expected from materialist philosophies as they slide further into a nihilism whose adherents will. for a while, demand ever more of what is not working . ever more luxury and sensationalism in an ecology unable to support it. The birth of the pandemonaeon as a generally accepted paradigm could be a long and bloody business. If things go badly it could be preceded by a catastrophe which precipitates us into a new stone age rather than an interstellar age. Although there will be important niches for magicians in either situation, I would prefer my descendants to perform their sorceries among the stars rather than huddled in the ruins.


excerpted from Peter Carroll's Liber Kaos chapter 2 Aeonics [The Psychohistorical Model of History]



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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Actually, after looking over the initial post, and given there are no more details, I conclude that I have to glean what I can from hdonn's posts.

I can only assume that this is a combination of political and religious conspiracy theories being used to predict this awakening and that it has little to do with any kind of logical reasoning.

I'm guessing this is some teenager testing the waters to see the responses. Cheers and Good luck with that Ole Chap!


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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
Why the winter solstice as the beginning? What happens then to usher in this new age of reason?

That date seems to have no reason other than some belief in pagan faith or occult belief. Give us the reason for this new age of reason.
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I dont have any belief only knowledge, i dont believe in the gods, i believe in my consciousness and spirit

Evolution works in many ways, one important way is a cosmic cycle upwards,the date is when the earth will be in the full light of the cosmic energy



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
Actually, after looking over the initial post, and given there are no more details, I conclude that I have to glean what I can from hdonn's posts.

I can only assume that this is a combination of political and religious conspiracy theories being used to predict this awakening and that it has little to do with any kind of logical reasoning.

I'm guessing this is some teenager testing the waters to see the responses. Cheers and Good luck with that Ole Chap!


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Some people know an awakaning is happening and some dont
its of no consequence to anyone if you awaken or not

i didnt mention politics and i am certainly not religious eh eh

what is it you dont like? that the church will fall?

my message olso Dec21 will be a day like any other, be at peace, forgive now its time

Live Long and Prosper
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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When one is "enlightend" he is just worshipping himself.

I am well aware too of the "falling" of the church. This is predicted in the Bible—the falling away during the last days. But even when that comes to fruition, and all those fall away that will, there will still be a church; even after 12/21.






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