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Originally posted by Im2keul
reply to post by UltraMarine
Dark internet?? I found a few links on it, very interesting stuff. Add that to the reasons I like ATS.
Originally posted by AQuestion
Originally posted by CherubBaby
reply to post by AQuestion
In The Constitution Of The US it says clearly that when Govt is no longer representing the people then it is not only OUR RIGHT but OUR DUTY to throw off such Govt and place NEW Guards for our future security. The point here is not an issue of the people needing to tell the truth. The elected officials behaving as criminals are the ones that need to stop lying and there is only one solution. It needs to start over and get rid of these whores for a dollar and their lobbying whores for money
If you wish to change the issue, start a new thread. In your thread give direct quotes. The Founding Fathers claimed to be Christians, they were or they were not, you choose. The New Testament tells us to be good slaves. You cannot use the Constitution to promote violent overhaul of government. It gave a process, one of changing the Constitution by vote, that is it's genius.
As for the politicians, yes, they should stop lying. Do you think they will? I don't and why would we want to emulate them? A house built on mud is never going to succeed. Let us build on solid rock, lets try the truth.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
You quoted the Declaration of Independence and not the Constitution.
and you for thinking that you can win playing a rigged game, as well as declaring cherubs post off topic, because, it would seem you are scared too.
Originally posted by Common Good
Is there anything that doesnt now fit into the what they think of the term "terrorist" ?
Govt claiming that thousands of internet bloggers terrorists?
They dont want anyone questioning their presumed authority over us.
True enough, but the fact remains that "vote", is tarnished, how can you trust the "vote" from the people you are trying to over throw. Its genius, is the fact it TELLS its people to overthrow if necessary, hence why 2nd amendment. Votes are great, it saves us from a lot of wars(internal), but when you feel the votes/parties/house and military are all corrupted, there is only one vote, and it comes out the end of a barrel.
You get the government you deserve. If 51 percent of the people support torture as a valid tool and support a man, Romney, who says that he does not represent half of us then we get the government we deserve.