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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
With the patriot act and ndaa section 1031, I don't see how we can even be considered "mostly free". We have only the illusion of freedom right now.
Originally posted by Tecumte
So I wonder what country would have the distinction of having the most 'personal feedom', the right and ability to exist unhindered as one sees fit (as long as one doesn't cause verifiable and substantial damage to another).
Originally posted by yourmaker
Originally posted by Tecumte
So I wonder what country would have the distinction of having the most 'personal feedom', the right and ability to exist unhindered as one sees fit (as long as one doesn't cause verifiable and substantial damage to another).
Antartica? Some Polynesian Island without a flag on it?
If you want to be free these days, you need to form your own country and be willing to fight for it.
Originally posted by Mayson
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
With the patriot act and ndaa section 1031, I don't see how we can even be considered "mostly free". We have only the illusion of freedom right now.
I guess if you have the illusion of freedom, then they're mostly doing it right.
If you can go about your daily life and not bump into anything that they prevent you from doing, then you might as well be free. Anytime your "freedoms" are restricted, it's mostly their way of telling you to stop being such a D-bag.
I bought my car and you're trying to tell me I can't do what I want with it? I want to weld spikes all over my car. You're being a D-bag. Don't do that.
What do you mean I can't pour toxic waste into a lake? It's my lake, I can do what I want with it. You're being a D-bag. Don't do that.
Now, I say mostly doing it right because there are laws that don't really make a huge amount of sense to me. Chances are that there is some group of people somewhere saying, "if you do that, then you're just being a D-bag."
Here's a quick test. Are you trying to screw someone or find some sort of "angle" or something of the like? Stop. You're probably being a D-bag.
I guess we just need to restrict "freedoms" until people can learn how to not be selfish.
Originally posted by Mayson
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
With the patriot act and ndaa section 1031, I don't see how we can even be considered "mostly free". We have only the illusion of freedom right now.
I guess if you have the illusion of freedom, then they're mostly doing it right.
If you can go about your daily life and not bump into anything that they prevent you from doing, then you might as well be free. Anytime your "freedoms" are restricted, it's mostly their way of telling you to stop being such a D-bag.
I bought my car and you're trying to tell me I can't do what I want with it? I want to weld spikes all over my car. You're being a D-bag. Don't do that.
What do you mean I can't pour toxic waste into a lake? It's my lake, I can do what I want with it. You're being a D-bag. Don't do that.
Now, I say mostly doing it right because there are laws that don't really make a huge amount of sense to me. Chances are that there is some group of people somewhere saying, "if you do that, then you're just being a D-bag."
Here's a quick test. Are you trying to screw someone or find some sort of "angle" or something of the like? Stop. You're probably being a D-bag.
I guess we just need to restrict "freedoms" until people can learn how to not be selfish.
Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
As you would expect - we are no longer considered a free nation - we are now in the "Mostly Free"catagory ..
the question I have is why two decades ago they started this rating system... ???? to chart the progress of the NWO ... ?
U.S. Drops to the Tenth Freest Nation on Earth: Now Listed as Mostly Free
March 16th, 2012
By Dr. Harold Pease
For nearly two decades the Heritage Foundation and the Wall Street Journal have teamed-up tracking and rating the 184 nations of the earth on economic freedom. In their 2012 ratings “Hong Kong and Singapore finished first and second in the rankings for the 18th straight year. Australia and New Zealand ranked third and fourth, and Switzerland fifth. Canada finished sixth, … falling out of the group of ‘free’ economies into the ‘mostly free’ category;” a fall made by the United States in 2010. The U.S. also slipped from a three-way tie for ninth place last year to tenth place today. Even Mauritius, taking eighth, a small island off the coast of Africa, was seen as more economically free than we, as were Chile and Ireland taking seventh and ninth.
The 484-page rather complex document, rated countries in ten types of freedom: labor, business, trade, fiscal, government spending, monetary, investment, financial, property, and freedom from corruption. These ten then were evaluated on the basis of “the rule of law, the intrusiveness of government, regulatory efficiency, and the openness of free markets.” A country’s overall score was the average of these categories.
The average economic freedom score for the world dropped two-tenths of a point from 2011, primarily because countries tried to spend their way out of recession and failed. “Rapid expansion of government, more than any market factor, appears to be responsible for flagging economic dynamism. Government spending has not only failed to arrest the economic crisis, but also—in many countries—seems to be prolonging it. The big-government approach has led to bloated public debt, turning an economic slowdown into a fiscal crisis with economic stagnation fueling long-term unemployment,” they concluded.
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edit on 27-10-2012 by 1BornPatriot because: (no reason given)
For most of our history we were the freest nation on earth with no significant competition resulting in our people becoming the most abundant ever.
Originally posted by HomeyDevincenzi
Originally posted by 1BornPatriot
As you would expect - we are no longer considered a free nation - we are now in the "Mostly Free"catagory ..
the question I have is why two decades ago they started this rating system... ???? to chart the progress of the NWO ... ?
U.S. Drops to the Tenth Freest Nation on Earth: Now Listed as Mostly Free
March 16th, 2012
By Dr. Harold Pease
For nearly two decades the Heritage Foundation and the Wall Street Journal have teamed-up tracking and rating the 184 nations of the earth on economic freedom. In their 2012 ratings “Hong Kong and Singapore finished first and second in the rankings for the 18th straight year. Australia and New Zealand ranked third and fourth, and Switzerland fifth. Canada finished sixth, … falling out of the group of ‘free’ economies into the ‘mostly free’ category;” a fall made by the United States in 2010. The U.S. also slipped from a three-way tie for ninth place last year to tenth place today. Even Mauritius, taking eighth, a small island off the coast of Africa, was seen as more economically free than we, as were Chile and Ireland taking seventh and ninth.
The 484-page rather complex document, rated countries in ten types of freedom: labor, business, trade, fiscal, government spending, monetary, investment, financial, property, and freedom from corruption. These ten then were evaluated on the basis of “the rule of law, the intrusiveness of government, regulatory efficiency, and the openness of free markets.” A country’s overall score was the average of these categories.
The average economic freedom score for the world dropped two-tenths of a point from 2011, primarily because countries tried to spend their way out of recession and failed. “Rapid expansion of government, more than any market factor, appears to be responsible for flagging economic dynamism. Government spending has not only failed to arrest the economic crisis, but also—in many countries—seems to be prolonging it. The big-government approach has led to bloated public debt, turning an economic slowdown into a fiscal crisis with economic stagnation fueling long-term unemployment,” they concluded.
source
edit on 27-10-2012 by 1BornPatriot because: (no reason given)
This is semi ridiculous. How can Hong Kong be considered free? Off on that one by a Hong Kong mile.
Originally posted by Larrelye
Originally posted by Mayson
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
With the patriot act and ndaa section 1031, I don't see how we can even be considered "mostly free". We have only the illusion of freedom right now.
I guess if you have the illusion of freedom, then they're mostly doing it right.
If you can go about your daily life and not bump into anything that they prevent you from doing, then you might as well be free. Anytime your "freedoms" are restricted, it's mostly their way of telling you to stop being such a D-bag.
I bought my car and you're trying to tell me I can't do what I want with it? I want to weld spikes all over my car. You're being a D-bag. Don't do that.
What do you mean I can't pour toxic waste into a lake? It's my lake, I can do what I want with it. You're being a D-bag. Don't do that.
Now, I say mostly doing it right because there are laws that don't really make a huge amount of sense to me. Chances are that there is some group of people somewhere saying, "if you do that, then you're just being a D-bag."
Here's a quick test. Are you trying to screw someone or find some sort of "angle" or something of the like? Stop. You're probably being a D-bag.
I guess we just need to restrict "freedoms" until people can learn how to not be selfish.
Sort of like.....
My neighbor is a mean old woman so I tell her so - Stop! You're being a D-Bag
I don't like chlorine or fluoride in my water so I dig a well - Stop! You're being a D-Bag
I don't like giving half my paycheck to the Entergy Company so I install solar panels - Stop! You're being a D-Bag
I don't like giving the other half of my check to the grocery store for the substances they tell me are food so I raise chickens and goats - Stop! You're being a D-Bag.
My point? It's not illegal to be a "douche" and if it were, who gets to decide?edit on 29-10-2012 by Larrelye because: (no reason given)