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Is HAARP feeding SANDY? (The Conspiracy Side)

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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by tgidkp
what's funny is that op considers himself an "expert" in FREQUENCIES (note all caps), and has no idea how obviously clueless he really is.

we are all enjoying watching you embarrass yourself. op, please consider that there is something here that you don't understand. Phage is right. you are confused. and it is all very funny.

well, they're all measured in Hertz, so they all must be the same! right?


------->>> NO!


Originally posted by pianopraze

Originally posted by Phage
HAARP can only affect a region of the ionosphere above Gakona, Alaska.

Originally posted by Phage
Can you explain in what way HAARP has anything to do with the work of Tesla?


Phage, nice to see you up to your lies and obfuscation as usual.

HAARP can affect thousands of miles away:



a significant fraction of the Earth can be covered from the HAARP site



the use of the transmitter as a radar, makes the HAARP transmitter a unique source for remote sensing and communication uses.

Military website talking about HAARP

Those nuclear submarines floating above Gakova, Alaska... right?

Originally envisioned as a way to facilitate communications with nuclear-armed submarines

Nature magazine

And why Tesla? Well... if you look on the original HAARP patent, you find a reference to a N. Tesla:

Liberty Magazine, (2/35) p. 7 N. Tesla.

US Patent 4,686,605

But you already knew all this, we've talked about it before. Thus you lie.

By the way, even the patent states it will be able to:

cause interference with or even total disruption of communications over a very large portion of the earth.


Seems like HAARP can affect a lot more than Gakova, Alaska.

But back to our OP's assertion of weather modification. Let's look what else that patent says that HAARP can do:

Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns


And that, is exactly what the OP was suggesting.


If Phage was so "right" then why would PP have wasted his time.....SHREDDING Phage's disinfo apart...as you can see.




posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by tgidkp
what's funny is that op considers himself an "expert" in FREQUENCIES (note all caps), and has no idea how obviously clueless he really is.

we are all enjoying watching you embarrass yourself. op, please consider that there is something here that you don't understand. Phage is right. you are confused. and it is all very funny.

well, they're all measured in Hertz, so they all must be the same! right?


------->>> NO!


For cyclical processes, such as rotation, oscillations, or waves, frequency is defined as a number of cycles per unit time. In physics and engineering disciplines, such as optics, acoustics, and radio, frequency is usually denoted by a Latin letter f or by a Greek letter ν (nu). In SI units, the unit of frequency is the hertz (Hz), named after the German physicist Heinrich Hertz: 1 Hz means that an event repeats once per second. A previous name for this unit was cycles per second. A traditional unit of measure used with rotating mechanical devices is revolutions per minute, abbreviated RPM. 60 RPM equals one hertz.[1] The period, usually denoted by T, is the length of time taken by one cycle, and is the reciprocal of the frequency f: T = \frac[1][f] The SI unit for period is the second.FREQUENCY

You should learn more about FREQUENCIES.

If you go to HAARP’s official website you can see for yourself that the 2.5 Hz ULF frequency wasn’t only being broadcated for 10 hours, it was constantly being broadcasted for 2 days prior to the earthquake. Broadcasting began on March 8, 2011, just before midnight as you can see on HAARP’s website page – maestro.haarp.alaska.edu... Click on the Next Day link to see that the earthquake inducing 2.5 Hz ULF frequency was being broadcasted for the entire days of March 9, 2011 and March 10, 2011. Even though the signature frequency of an earthquake was shown throughout March 9 and March 10 there were no constant earthquakes occurring off the east coast of Japan.


What is the significance of a 2.5 Hz ULF broadcast? The natural resonance of an earthquake is 2.5 Hz. Link



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:06 AM
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I do not object to anything pianopraze has posted.

but there is tiny little piece of information that YOU are missing, which keeps showing up over and over again. and because you're an expert in frequencies, you are keeping yourself mired in misunderstanding.

sound frequency and electromagnetic frequency are two entirely different animals. because we use the same language to describe them does not mean they are the same.

if you can manage to figure this out, I really think you will understand your own argument better....and then you really ought to cast a blanket apology to everyone you have mislabled "disinformation" as a result of your hard headedness.

maybe we're not so much trying to tell you that you're wrong, so much as you could be more right.

but insisting in your own expertise when you are so clearly confused is just plain rude.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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holy effing hell dude. get it under control. I know PLENTY more than you about FREQUENCIES. and so do many others here.

cut it out.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by SpittinTruth


What is the significance of a 2.5 Hz ULF broadcast? The natural resonance of an earthquake is 2.5 Hz. Link


ELF triggering earthquakes, source: Discovery Channel:


Subject? HAARP



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:34 AM
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Originally posted by tgidkp
reply to post by SpittinTruth
 


I do not object to anything pianopraze has posted.

but there is tiny little piece of information that YOU are missing, which keeps showing up over and over again. and because you're an expert in frequencies, you are keeping yourself mired in misunderstanding.

sound frequency and electromagnetic frequency are two entirely different animals. because we use the same language to describe them does not mean they are the same.

if you can manage to figure this out, I really think you will understand your own argument better....and then you really ought to cast a blanket apology to everyone you have mislabled "disinformation" as a result of your hard headedness.

maybe we're not so much trying to tell you that you're wrong, so much as you could be more right.

but insisting in your own expertise when you are so clearly confused is just plain rude.

Uuuuuh excuse me...but...to my own UNDERSTANDING..didn't PP agree with what i had said??? Yet, you agree with his post...and disagree with what i've said?

I'm not a "frequency expert"...but i do KNOW that everything on this planet runs at a certain frequency...and that frequency can be measured and manipulated. If a sound wave set at 50 Hz can move the shirt on your back, what makes an electromagnetic wave any different, if it wants to move something in the atmosphere?


7 Types of Electromagnetic Waves
Radio Waves
Radio waves are the lowest-frequency waves in the EM spectrum. Radio waves can be used to carry other signals to receivers that subsequently translate these signals into usable information. Many objects, both natural and man-made, emit radio waves. Anything that emits heat emits radiation across the entire spectrum, but in different amounts. Stars, planets and other cosmic bodies emit radio waves. Radio and television stations and cellphone companies all produce radio waves that carry signals to be received by the antennae in your television, radio or cellphone.
Microwaves
Microwaves are the second-lowest frequency waves in the EM spectrum. Whereas radio waves can be up to a mile in length, microwaves measure from a few centimeters up to a foot. Due to their higher frequency, microwaves can carry information through obstacles that interfere with radio waves such as clouds, smoke and rain. Microwaves are used for radar, landline phone calls and the transmission of computer data. Microwave remnants of the "Big Bang" radiate from all directions throughout the universe.
Infrared Waves
Infrared waves are in the lower-middle range of frequencies in the EM spectrum, between microwaves and visible light. The size of infrared waves ranges from a few millimeters down to microscopic lengths. The longer-wavelength infrared waves produce heat and include radiation emitted by fire, the sun and other heat-producing objects; shorter-wavelength infrared rays do not produce much heat and are used in remote controls and imaging technologies.
Visible Light Rays
Visible light waves are radiation that you can see with your naked eye. The different frequencies of visible light are experienced by people as the colors of the rainbow. The frequencies move from the lower wavelengths, detected as reds, up to the higher visible wavelengths, detected as violet hues. The most noticeable natural source of visible light is, of course, the sun. Objects are perceived as different colors based on which wavelengths of light an object absorbs and which it reflects.
Ultraviolet Waves
Ultraviolet waves have even shorter wavelengths than visible light. UV waves are the cause of sunburn and can cause cancer in living organisms. High-temperature processes emit UV rays; these can be detected throughout the universe from every star in the sky. Detecting UV waves assists astronomers, for example, in learning about the structure of galaxies.
X-ray Waves
X-rays are extremely high-energy waves with wavelengths between 0.03 and 3 nanometers -- not much longer than an atom. X-rays are emitted by sources producing very high temperatures like the sun's corona, which is much hotter than the surface of the sun. Natural sources of x-rays include enormously energetic cosmic phenomena such as pulsars, supernovae and black holes. X-rays are commonly used in imaging technology to view bone structures within the body.
Gamma Rays
Gamma waves are the highest-frequency EM waves, and are emitted by only the most energetic cosmic objects such pulsars, neutron stars, supernova and black holes. Terrestrial sources include lightning, nuclear explosions and radioactive decay. Gamma wave wavelengths are measured on the subatomic level.....
Any of those waves can be manipulated via frequencies!



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by tgidkp
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holy effing hell dude. get it under control. I know PLENTY more than you about FREQUENCIES. and so do many others here.

cut it out.

Dude....i made the thread...so, why don't you READ all 15 pages, then come back and hiss/holla. If you know PLENTY....why haven't you shared any of your "wisdom"?

You got me twisted, if you think you can just come on here, make a stupid comment, with nothing to back it up...and imma just duck tail and run. YOU'RE NUTS!

if you got something to debate...that's fine....show what you got...besides you're little quote of "you know PLENTY more than me about frequencies". Apparently...you know NOTHING!



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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I am not about to jump on the bandwagon and say I believe HAARP influences any of these type of phenomena,
but I will continue to raise the fact that we do not know either way yet!

But here in Europe we have had such a crazy and tough day yesterday and startign again today, it is enough to make me wonder if something like that could be influencing everywhere. Or maybe it is just coincidence.

But we had this unexpected freak snowstorm, that made more than a meter of snow come down and winds that have torn apart everything! Because of all the poles and trees down, 300,000 homes had no electricity yesterday, and today a percentage of those are still without it. (a problem considering the below freezing weather with the wind).

I think only three have died, swept away in flooding and winds, but that was yesterday, I haven't watched the news yet this morning. But it is just insane, and the sound of the wind and the rattling of the walls, makes for quite an atmosphere while watching news of the coming storm to the East Coast of the US!



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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You know what's rather ironic? The same people that PRAISE science, are the same ones that DENY IT, when it's being used. Maybe it's because...you don't like the fact that they're using it against us! One minute, science is wonderful and the next...it doesn't exist. It's non-sense and conspiracy theory crap. Well, isn't a part of science, THINKING THE IMPOSSIBLE and bringing it to fruition???

Why do people find it so hard to believe that we can move atoms, molecules and the stuff that makes up our planet, around from one point to another? What makes a hurricane any different??? Why do you believe it can't be moved or manipulated, if tuned properly??? All you need is the right instrument and the proper note. That's really not so......extraordinary, these days. It's rather BASIC!

If it weren't basic, we'd still be using land-lines and postal services.

Let me put it to you like this......all kinds of 'waves' are floating around you...going in and out of your body. People's telephone conversations, facebook messages, pictures, videos, music, television....all floating around you, being bounced from 1 cell phone tower to the next; from space to earth! Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it aint there. It's there. It's all around you!



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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Phage, nice to see you up to your lies and obfuscation as usual.


And your post isn't obfuscating the facts is it?

No....




HAARP can affect thousands of miles away:


Yes, in the low frequency range, not high frequency.

Quite a big difference there.



And why Tesla? Well... if you look on the original HAARP patent, you find a reference to a N. Tesla:


So Tesla was referenced in Eastlund's patent.

Here's the article being referenced:

www.pbs.org...

Can you provide the link between Tesla and HAARP please?



By the way, even the patent states it will be able to:

cause interference with or even total disruption of communications over a very large portion of the earth.


Seems like HAARP can affect a lot more than Gakova, Alaska.

But back to our OP's assertion of weather modification. Let's look what else that patent says that HAARP can do:

Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns


And that, is exactly what the OP was suggesting.


The patent has nothing to do with HAARP, it doesn't even mention HAARP. There's also the fact that the proposed device in the patent has about 1 million times the power of HAARP and would require 14 miles of space to fit the 1 million arrays needed.

I'm sorry to say but you've got it all wrong.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 05:09 AM
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I'd really rather not get worried about all of this. I went to my local weather website (wnep.com) and it shows light rain from Early Monday (now) until 1pm Monday (7 hours from now). I live in North East Pennsylvania.

So close to NY that it might as well just be NY. They're projecting all of the heavy rain from 1pm Monday to 7pm Monday, then just light rain again.

I normally wouldn't be worried because it just sounds like an average rain storm to me, on paper.

But, PP&L (if you don't know who they are, google them if you'd like) called EVERYONE that used their electricity and said "...expect and be prepared for AT LEAST a week with no power..."

I lost power for 5 days with Irene.

So that means, no shower, no hot water....wait I have a well...no water at all, no heat, no stove (both heat and stove are electric), no food because of no refrigerator due to no power, and no toilet flushing. For 5 days.

When Irene came by and we had no power for 5 days, we took showers by dumping freezing cold buckets of water from my girlfriends pool on our heads, shampoo-ing, and dumping one more bucket. We showered like that for nearly a week.

So, I'm mildly freaked out. I'd like to stay calm, it's only 6 hours of destruction....but that's the thing; it's six hours of destruction.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Ok, good morning, had a pretty good nights rest, so thought I'd add a little more for any left brained types, who have a bit of trouble intuiting more right brained prose.

First and foremost, I can't imagine the Beast wasting a near 'perfect' opprtunity such as Sandy for driving the herd into an order out of chaos scenario, that drives it over the cliff , and provides cover for wiping the slate clean and further ushering in their 'desire(s) for the world'.

A full moon, a high tide, nearly Halloween, a massive buildup of FEMA bullets and caskets, sitting duck reactors (Fukishima anyone?), a sitting duck public with mass transit shut down, potential massive flooding.,days and nights of no power and darkness, a decoy to blame for the "already' crashed financial system that is just being propped up until 'the time', Zombie Apocolypse and Frankenstorm meems spead in the media, a Zombie killing drill on the 31st of Oct. involving special forces, NDAA mentality and new laws put in place, detention centers for the displaced, the local news telling everyone things are ok until right before the storm is upped (ie. sudden 'unexpected' turn as was into south Florida, with no time to prep), an election right around the corner, et. etc...... seems like IF this is a weaponized storm, it has been well thought out and all of the props and special effects have been put in place..... Or maybe God just has a sense of humor,,hmmmm.

Perhaps though it will just blow over with minimal damage and loss of life and the herd can all go back to watching Dancing with the Stars and Monday night football and swigging Budweisers and stuffing their faces with Doritos. But I wouldn't care to wager a large sum of money at this point on that being the outcome. But we'll see. We've just been watching and waiting for The Perfect Storm to show up now for awhile, watching for 9-11 pt.II, the sequal, again,we know it will come, not if but when, I find it hard to believe the parasitic opportunists will let this chance slip by .....but maybe... the Time is not yet. The next few days, for those that carefully watch, should tell alot. Now back to your discussion on particles and waves...have great day.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
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HAARP will be monitoring short wave distress calls and communications.

HAARP monitors ionospheric conditions. It does not monitor communications.


HAARP does heat the ionosphere...

A scalar weapon.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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The answer to the question posed in the thread's title is yes. Hurricane Sandy was created by HAARP.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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HARP could cause some damage if used incorrectly; that is a given. Messing with earth`s fragile atmosphere will have unintended results. Yet, it is so hard to know for sure if HARP is causing a huge storm due to lack of data coming from any HARP site. We need to know exactly when HARP is turned on and being used; as well as for how long and which frequency it is using. Having that information would go a long way in knowing what, if any, effect HARP could be having on the current storm heading for the west cost of the US.



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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I agree. The Navy herself said that it was to "study the effect of High-Energy's influence over weather".



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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@Is HAARP feeding SANDY? (The Conspiracy Side)

No,SpittinTruth, I think its the water temp and conditions responding to the GOM spill
see link below:



socioecohistory.wordpress.com...



posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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Thanks to Phage for being a voice of reason and knowledge in a chaotic jumble of superstition and pseudo scientific ramblings. I think far more people learn from you, and a small handful of others on the site, then the rest of the keyboard peckers combined.

Keep up the good fight!

To the rest:

The goal here is to Deny Ignorance after all people... If you cannot lucidly defend your statements, then you should be bounced to the ideological curb. Perhaps there should be a web site that does not promote "Deny Ignorance" and you could post there?

Surely there are nuggets of unknown information here on this site. Surely our goal is to suss out these golden factoids and present them to to the world. You know, the confused world mystified by Media and so easily duped by flashing lights and mirrors? The ones we have to convince to come to believe as we do - that these hidden things are real and worth knowing? If not, we all just sound like an average day at the local insane asylum.




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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Hard, narrow-minded people who only follow what the Big Media tells them (No, HAARP was funded by Navy for military strategical purposes, but, no, it doesn't serve that purpose) are the one who are not Denying Ignorance.

HAARP is injecting hight frequencies in the Auroral jet. That influences the atmosphere. Robert O. Becker, PhD and Nobel Prize winner, studied the impact of electromagnetc radiations on our environnement and ourselves (one of his patent is to use electrical impulses to cure tumours or induce cellular regeneration). He warned us against cell phone towers, and he warned us against Russia's and US Navy's HAARP. Funnily enough, the big Media only talked about the cell towers, and passed HAARP under silence.



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you all, keep up the good fight. The people has the right to know more than what the government accepts to tell us through the paid media.
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posted on Oct, 29 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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More on damaged loop current effecting the weather?





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