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YaHWeH Elohim (The LORD GOD of the Old Covenant, God of Adam, God of Noah, God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all Patriarchs, the God of Moses and the Israelites) is the Creator and Maker of the Universe and the Earth, and the God of all Flesh,
Yahshua Messiah, Jesus the Christ of Nazareth, born of the Virgin Mary who was betrothed to Joseph a Son of David, is YHWH in the Flesh, Fully Human and Fully God, and the same yesterday, today, and forevermore,
Consider the short, foolish, unthoughtful reply of this one "Sinny" compared with the Mighty, Powerful, FULL OF GRACE and TRUTH, Words of the Infallible, Unstoppable, Eternal King of Kings, God Almighty!
Originally posted by winofiend
reply to post by godlover25
Yeah but the historical jesus was a man of indifference. Sure he loved his followers and people who lived pious or morally chaste lives, but if you were not of his kindred you would be shunned.
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
He was willing to let the 'dog' die, because they are not 'his children'. But as soon as she accepts her denomination amongst his flock, as a 'dog', then she shows faith, and he heals her daughter.
What a tosser. lol
no wonder his mate dobbed him in for the reward
Originally posted by godlover25
reply to post by DelayedChristmas
He was born in the womb of a woman (His flesh, His Being - Spirit/Soul, are from times of old, from everlasting) but when He incarnated He took on mortal flesh. Though He was born without the original stain of sin, so He would become the perfect, unblemished Passover Lamb of God for all of humanity.
While He walked earth, He grew tried, got hungry, and had human characteristics and weaknesses. He obviously wasn't omnipresent in His physical body, and obviously not Omniscient in His physical body, but He took on those traits after His resurrection, from conception to death He was basically a highly-enlightened, but human soul/spirit/body. After He died, He roamed Hades and preached to imprisoned Spirits there, and after He Rose, he opened the doors to Paradise.
This is my current exegesis and there are other Theologians who have things pegged quite a bit better than myself,
My time is running short and I must depart in the next few minutes,
But I would suggest reading writings of C.S. Lewis, Dr. Hugh Ross, Ravi Zacharias, William Lane Craig,
also websites such as www.biologos.org and www.reasons.org and also http...://jandyongenesis.blogspot.com/
There are also many great theories and explanations for reconciling Genesis to current scientific model,
There are some absolutely brilliant OEC (Old Earth Creationist) theories, specifically, the one I like most, day-age theory. There's also gap-theory, creative evolution and theistic evolution.
Also, Young Earth Creation / Intelligent Design, have put together some very compelling arguments as well,
Regardless of which interpretation is correct, the bottom line is Genesis is the Truth, and the Holy Bible is the raw, unadulterated truth, and Christ Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life,
God bless us all,
This looks like some sort of anti-logic to me.
I've heard people say Jesus had a different "father" from the "violent" God of the OT.
YHWH is not violent, because if He was, Jesus would be violent, because Jesus is God (YHWH).
my take on how Jesus can be fully man and fully God:
. . . Jesus is God (YHWH).