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Hello my question is. What year did the New World Order take over the United States of America ? I r

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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 12:29 AM
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Hello my question is. What year did the New World Order take over the United States of America ? I respect the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution and the Heroes of the American Revolution. My question is since the Government created by the Founding Fathers started out good when did the bad guys the Illuminati the Bankers take control of the American Government is there a year anyone can give what President sold us out who was the first President or Politicans who sold America out thank you ?

The U.S. is a "British" Financial Colony

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

THE "CROWN"

British bankers took over the U.S. during the Teddy Roosevelt Administration (1901-1909) when Rothschild front J.P. Morgan alone controlled 25% of American business.

philadelphians.50megs.com...




posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Wow thats crazy. I saw the header and thought about 1900-1910.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 12:37 AM
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Take over? Heck, they formed the United States. Just look into Freemasonry and the founding of the US. Both Benjamin Franklin and George Washington (who were the leading cause of America's independence) were Freemasons. Also, the leaders of the Boston Tea Party all met in a Freemason lodge before the event.

Its no coincidence that in the United States 300ish short years of existence, it has become the most powerful country in history. The US is the NWO's poster boy.

Edit: Yes I know that not all, or even a majority of Freemasons are apart of the NWO. Just the really high up ones. Heck, I know some Masons myself, they are good people.
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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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December 23, 1913



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 12:42 AM
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I would say as far back as the Egyptians if not before then. Those pharaohs probably created a god complex. Fits what I believe the NWO main goal is. To have godlike power, slaves to do their every order, sit on the world's most valuable riches we probably do not even know exist, power to control through rewarding those who follow.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 12:51 AM
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I believe the NWO goes clear back to the Garden...

It started in that part of the universe we call Heaven when Lucifer challenged the right of God to exercise supreme authority. The Luciferian conspiracy was transferred to this world in the Garden of Eden.

The names have changed, but the beliefs, tactics, and designs of the groups have remained essentially the same.

Brotherhood of the Snake > Synagogue of Satan > Illuminati > NWO

Bottom line we are dealing with generational satanic families who control this world going back 1,000's of yrs, of their goal to depopulate the world. It does not matter who is put into the office of president, or seek safety with religions, or any other venue. Their everywhere, & in everything. Hidden in plain sight!

From the book: Pawns Of The Game:


"The illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramus brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities exsisted. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."

Note the illuminati in Jesus' day:

"He exposed the synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9; 3:9) he denounced those who belonged to it as sons of the devil (Lucifer), whom he castigated as the father of lies (John 8:44) and the prince of deceit (2 Cor. 11:14). He was specific in his statement that those who comprised the synagogue of Satan were those who called themselves Jews, but were not, and did lie (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). He identified the Money-Changers (Bankers) the Scribes, and the Pharisees as the Illuminati of his day.

Illuminati Roots


" I believe that the Illuminati existed BEFORE Adam Weishaupt launched his particular BRANCH of it. It was HUGE, way before Weishaupt. All that Adam Weishaupt did in 1776 was to form an additional BRANCH of the movement that called for political radicalism. But his was only a small splinter off the main body. So, the MAIN and LARGER and ALREADY EXISTING Illuminati would be found doing just FINE if Weishaupt’s branch ever fizzled.

Furthermore, NOT ONLY did the bigger and older movement continue to thrive independent of Weishaupt’s branch, but, even Weishaupt’s branch of the Illuminati survived and regrouped and revived, and grew, and has continued until today. But the older pre-1776 movement always was and still is the LARGER and more influential.

What is the Illuminati?




posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 12:54 AM
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Yes, I read a book by Manly P. Hall called The Secret Destiny of America. He discusses that Christopher Columbus was really a Mason, that America had been conceived of in (Ancient) Greece, where they already knew the lands oversea existed. It was about the Americas place in a huge plan toward a Platonic society, a plan that spans centuries. Hall says that high Masons from Europe drafted our Constitution and Declaration, and were present at the signings. It could be that the Bankers are a rouge part of this "Illuminati" group, or that their present actions have always been part of the Grand Design.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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I'm guessing, early 1900's maybe.....

Check into Rockefeller/Rothschild/JP Morgan.....just to name a few.

Also Bilderberg group....

On December 23, 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed.....so maybe that was the start.


J.P. Morgan and the Panic of 1907 It was J.P. Morgan who forced the government into acting on the central banking plans it had been considering off and on for almost a century. During the Bank Panic of 1907, Wall Street turned to J.P. Morgan to steer the country through the crisis that was threatening to push the economy over the edge into a full crash and depression. Morgan was able to convene all the principal players at his mansion and command all their capital to flood the system, thus floating the banks that, in turn, helped to float the businesses until the panic passed.
The fact that the government owed its economic survival to a private banker forced the necessary legislation to create a central bank and the Federal Reserve.


There is a lot more to the Federal Reserve Bank, so for an interesting read, check it out.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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"Let me control a peoples currency and I care not who makes their laws." Meyer Nathaniel Rothschild in a speech to a gathering of world bankers February 12, 1912. The following year, the USA subscribed to the 'services' of the newly incorporated Federal Reserve, headed by Mr. Rothschild.




"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922



And these are quotes from the early 1900's.....

So you can imagine how powerful the Rockefellers /Rothschilds have become over time.

Back then they complained how they controlled both parties....
Guess that much hasn't changed.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 01:22 AM
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Oh, can't leave out Daddy Bush.....he's also been found to be involved in secret societies too.


"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Herbert Walker Bush


It's definitely been in the works for quite some time.
How much longer before the pieces fall into place is any one's guess.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 01:49 AM
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The New World Order didn't take over the US,The Old World Order Snuck into it.

That would be around the time The FED took over the monetary system here.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by MyHappyDogShiner
The New World Order didn't take over the US,The Old World Order Snuck into it.

That would be around the time The FED took over the monetary system here.



Durring the Panic of 1803 the SCOTUS ruled that banks couldnt be sued. Several states sued, that banks should pay tax but lost.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Than why does Alex Jones respect the Founding Fathers of America since they were FreeMasons ?

en.wikipedia.org...(radio_host)

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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Actually they were taken over by Canada. The brits left after 1776. Sailed up to Canada and took it over from the French if I'm not mistaken. After that they've been just planning things from up here. On the surface making look and feel as if we're the weaker party. The country that's like the 51st state. A non issue and non threat basically. Meanwhile all along we've been the one's that have been pulling all the strings down there, without giving away that the local base of british operations is up here. It's like the tail wagging the dog!

We're the largest exportor of oil to the US already. We supply a lot of other things as well. Why do you think you pay so much more at the pump now??? We set the prices.

Look closely at our money....who's on the 20??? The queen of england. Who's face is on all the coins? The queen again.

Like I said they needed a local base of operations as England was too far, so they've been using Canada ever since as their stagging ground as they slowly influence and modify and control the you-es without them suspecting a damn thing!


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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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Love the controversial theory you have there. Could be some truth to it. Should we send in the ground troops now or just nuke the hell out of them?

South Park - Blame Canada


The guy in your video said Canadians don't have a dollar bill. They have a 5 dollar bill and coins for everything under a dollar. What??? If you need 4 dollars and 95 cents Canadian what are you going to do.. carry around tons of change?


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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Renegade2283
Take over? Heck, they formed the United States. Just look into Freemasonry and the founding of the US. Both Benjamin Franklin and George Washington (who were the leading cause of America's independence) were Freemasons. Also, the leaders of the Boston Tea Party all met in a Freemason lodge before the event.

Its no coincidence that in the United States 300ish short years of existence, it has become the most powerful country in history. The US is the NWO's poster boy.

Edit: Yes I know that not all, or even a majority of Freemasons are apart of the NWO. Just the really high up ones. Heck, I know some Masons myself, they are good people.
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If you believe that your rights come from men who write constitutions, then you have to believe your rights can be taken away by men in those same positions of power

communications/monitoring), and the fact that every territory on the Earth is claimed to be ruled by one man-made government or another, that the oppressive situation is much worse today than in any previous era.

"founding fathers" were masons, and that the Masonic Lodge had been infiltrated by (Illuminati founder) Adam Weishaupt in 1777; had been taken over by the Hidden Hand, before the American Constitutional Convention of 1787, and is still to this day under complete control and direction of the Hidden Hand.

What people do not know is that the so called "founding fathers" and king George (remember the king or queen of England is a member of the Hidden Hand) were working hand-in-hand to bring the people of America to their knees, to install a Central Government

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State: individual so-called 'ownership" is only by virtue of Government
The fastest way to find out who is the legal owner is to stop paying property tax and see who sends you notices, or knocks on your door, demanding payment.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by mikejohnson2006
Hello my question is. What year did the New World Order take over the United States of America ? I respect the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution and the Heroes of the American Revolution. My question is since the Government created by the Founding Fathers started out good when did the bad guys the Illuminati the Bankers take control of the American Government is there a year anyone can give what President sold us out who was the first President or Politicans who sold America out thank you ?

The U.S. is a "British" Financial Colony

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

THE "CROWN"

British bankers took over the U.S. during the Teddy Roosevelt Administration (1901-1909) when Rothschild front J.P. Morgan alone controlled 25% of American business.

philadelphians.50megs.com...


Makow is a Whacko, and should never be quoted or listened to.
Yes, the US is Still a British Colony, read the works of James Montgomery. Always has been, always will be.
However, for a short period of time, right after the revolutionary war, 1776, and before the Constitution in 1789, the Free and Independent Colonies and their inhabitants were all truly sovereign.



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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WHO are the "We the People of the United States" that the constitution refers to who formed the "Union"? Most patriots jump to the conclusion that it includes every American "Sovereign" Citizen, don't they? But is that conclusion correct? Where in the document is the term defined, which could support that conclusion?

It is a contract between: the States, the founders (through their insider legal establishments of those incorporated States), and the king of England. The constitution itself was not signed by any human, it was only signed "In witness" on behalf of the States. Since you are not a party to that contract, then you can't possibly have ANY rights under that contract.
In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,
...In Convention Monday, September 17th 1787. Present The States (note well: NOT the human "signers"/witnesses!) of New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Mr. Hamilton from New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia."

If you don't believe read Padelford, Fay & Co. vs. The Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah. 14 Georgia 438, 520 which states 'But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution, the Constitution, it is true, is a compact but he is not a party to it.'..."



posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Good question. As an American who loves history I have asked myself this often. While everybody says that the NWO is headed by the US, I disagree. IMO the NWO was planned in Europe and spread its tentacles.into the US mid 19th century. It formalized its power later with the federal reserve.

Most Europeans and colonial surrogate states like to pass the blame entirely onto the US, using our military presence as a clear indication of our guilt. The real power lies in the money and its control over the politics of.any nation. The world bank, IMF, and ECB, alnong with the bank of England have more decision power over what opposition must be met militarily than the Congress of any nation.

The fed was seen as a direct threat when it was proposed and all opposition was conveniently killed, most on the Titanic, which is another conspiracy theory in and of itself. The fed.makes possible all US interventionism by allocating funds for.war time efforts bypassing Congress entirely.

The fed acts in coordination with other banking cartel entities being controlled.in Europe.

From Bavaria to the US with love. NWO.
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posted on Oct, 28 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by manykapao
Good question. As an American who loves history I have asked myself this often. While everybody says that the NWO is headed by the US, I disagree. IMO the NWO was planned in Europe and spread its tentacles.into the US mid 19th century. It formalized its power later with the federal reserve.

Most Europeans and colonial surrogate states like to pass the blame entirely onto the US, using our military presence as a clear indication of our guilt. The real power lies in the money and its control over the politics of.any nation. The world bank, IMF, and ECB, alnong with the bank of England have more decision power over what opposition must be met militarily than the Congress of any nation.

The fed was seen as a direct threat when it was proposed and all opposition was conveniently killed, most on the Titanic, which is another conspiracy theory in and of itself. The fed.makes possible all US interventionism by allocating funds for.war time efforts bypassing Congress entirely.

The fed acts in coordination with other banking cartel entities being controlled.in Europe.

From Bavaria to the US with love. NWO.
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The United States belongs to the founding fathers, " their posterity" and Great Britain. America is nothing more than a Plantation. It always has been.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."




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