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"The illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramus brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities exsisted. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."
Note the illuminati in Jesus' day:
"He exposed the synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9; 3:9) he denounced those who belonged to it as sons of the devil (Lucifer), whom he castigated as the father of lies (John 8:44) and the prince of deceit (2 Cor. 11:14). He was specific in his statement that those who comprised the synagogue of Satan were those who called themselves Jews, but were not, and did lie (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). He identified the Money-Changers (Bankers) the Scribes, and the Pharisees as the Illuminati of his day.
" I believe that the Illuminati existed BEFORE Adam Weishaupt launched his particular BRANCH of it. It was HUGE, way before Weishaupt. All that Adam Weishaupt did in 1776 was to form an additional BRANCH of the movement that called for political radicalism. But his was only a small splinter off the main body. So, the MAIN and LARGER and ALREADY EXISTING Illuminati would be found doing just FINE if Weishaupt’s branch ever fizzled.
Furthermore, NOT ONLY did the bigger and older movement continue to thrive independent of Weishaupt’s branch, but, even Weishaupt’s branch of the Illuminati survived and regrouped and revived, and grew, and has continued until today. But the older pre-1776 movement always was and still is the LARGER and more influential.
What is the Illuminati?
J.P. Morgan and the Panic of 1907 It was J.P. Morgan who forced the government into acting on the central banking plans it had been considering off and on for almost a century. During the Bank Panic of 1907, Wall Street turned to J.P. Morgan to steer the country through the crisis that was threatening to push the economy over the edge into a full crash and depression. Morgan was able to convene all the principal players at his mansion and command all their capital to flood the system, thus floating the banks that, in turn, helped to float the businesses until the panic passed.
The fact that the government owed its economic survival to a private banker forced the necessary legislation to create a central bank and the Federal Reserve.
"Let me control a peoples currency and I care not who makes their laws." Meyer Nathaniel Rothschild in a speech to a gathering of world bankers February 12, 1912. The following year, the USA subscribed to the 'services' of the newly incorporated Federal Reserve, headed by Mr. Rothschild.
"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922
"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Herbert Walker Bush
Originally posted by MyHappyDogShiner
The New World Order didn't take over the US,The Old World Order Snuck into it.
That would be around the time The FED took over the monetary system here.
Originally posted by Renegade2283
Take over? Heck, they formed the United States. Just look into Freemasonry and the founding of the US. Both Benjamin Franklin and George Washington (who were the leading cause of America's independence) were Freemasons. Also, the leaders of the Boston Tea Party all met in a Freemason lodge before the event.
Its no coincidence that in the United States 300ish short years of existence, it has become the most powerful country in history. The US is the NWO's poster boy.
Edit: Yes I know that not all, or even a majority of Freemasons are apart of the NWO. Just the really high up ones. Heck, I know some Masons myself, they are good people.edit on 27-10-2012 by Renegade2283 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mikejohnson2006
Hello my question is. What year did the New World Order take over the United States of America ? I respect the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution and the Heroes of the American Revolution. My question is since the Government created by the Founding Fathers started out good when did the bad guys the Illuminati the Bankers take control of the American Government is there a year anyone can give what President sold us out who was the first President or Politicans who sold America out thank you ?
The U.S. is a "British" Financial Colony
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
British bankers took over the U.S. during the Teddy Roosevelt Administration (1901-1909) when Rothschild front J.P. Morgan alone controlled 25% of American business.
Originally posted by manykapao
Good question. As an American who loves history I have asked myself this often. While everybody says that the NWO is headed by the US, I disagree. IMO the NWO was planned in Europe and spread its tentacles.into the US mid 19th century. It formalized its power later with the federal reserve.
Most Europeans and colonial surrogate states like to pass the blame entirely onto the US, using our military presence as a clear indication of our guilt. The real power lies in the money and its control over the politics of.any nation. The world bank, IMF, and ECB, alnong with the bank of England have more decision power over what opposition must be met militarily than the Congress of any nation.
The fed was seen as a direct threat when it was proposed and all opposition was conveniently killed, most on the Titanic, which is another conspiracy theory in and of itself. The fed.makes possible all US interventionism by allocating funds for.war time efforts bypassing Congress entirely.
The fed acts in coordination with other banking cartel entities being controlled.in Europe.
From Bavaria to the US with love. NWO.edit on 28-10-2012 by manykapao because: (no reason given)edit on 28-10-2012 by manykapao because: (no reason given)