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Millions watched as Jimmy Saville molested me

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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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The BBC bosses told her to "get lost" when she complained.
The camera crew and people in the studio didn't cause a fuss about it.
20 million viewers watched it happen and how many people wrote to complain? Probably none.
Not only did the BBC and the establishment turn a blind-eye to this sort of behaviour - society itself did.
Why?
Because in those days, that sort of behaviour towards women was considered, by most men, to be normal and was by no means rare. A lot of women had to put up with that sort of groping on a regular basis.

We should all , especially women, give HUGE thanks to the Womens Liberation Movement of the 60's and 70's.
If it wasn't for them, there would be no Sexual Harrassment Laws and this sort of thing would still be considered as acceptable.











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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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She's 19-20 years old and that makes him a pedophile? I guess I should only watch porn with 100 year old women? I'm not saying that what he did was right, honorable, or just... but I thought pedophilia was with 5 year old boys... not adult women.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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she is 19 and she didn't seem horrified.......



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by aBeneGesserit
The BBC bosses told her to "get lost" when she complained.
The camera crew and people in the studio didn't cause a fuss about it.
20 million viewers watched it happen and how many people wrote to complain? Probably none.
Not only did the BBC and the establishment turn a blind-eye to this sort of behaviour - society itself did.
Why?
Because in those days, that sort of behaviour towards women was considered, by most men, to be normal and was by no means rare. A lot of women had to put up with that sort of groping on a regular basis.

We should all , especially women, give HUGE thanks to the Womens Liberation Movement of the 60's and 70's.
If it wasn't for them, there would be no Sexual Harrassment Laws and this sort of thing would still be considered as acceptable.











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yup and that is why society is sh!t the family is in shambles and you cannot even ask a woman out without some crazy baitch that watched to much life time the night before to call out sexual harrassment.

Feminism was the the worst thing that happened to women. Feminism actually benefitted men more than women....it benefitted the kind of men that would grope a woman on national tv.
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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by AmberLeaf

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by newcovenant

The pedophile bandwagon?
What are we in church?


The real question is, why did the establishment cover up for him?








Because many were complicit in the crimes.

Remember that 17 year old girl found dead on the queens grounds...probably not. Nothing was ever heard of that, wiped under the carpet. Remember the convicted sex offender offered to ride the boat down the thames with the royals for the olympics? Or prince andrews ties to known pedos? The biggest pervs are the ones that have the most wealth and power. I suspect many people will now fall because of outing this sicko.

Judges passing light sentences for such crimes, can only mean they too are fond of kids.



Well the Police officer in charge of the investigation into Saville's activities, has stated that there will be a lot of highly placed public figures feeling distinctly nervous at the moment, and that the arrest of several high profile figures is imminent.

So here's hoping that these despicable cowards who prey on innocents get what is coming to them.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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There are a few things that mark Savile out as extraordinary. He was not simply a paedophile, he was a hebophile and an ephebophile as well. If you read up on it, rather call everyone by a single name, you will see that these are all different mindsets. Most paedophile lose interest in their victims and do not seek out victims once they reach puberty. Gary Glitter, Savile's close friend, is a hebophile, he really only abuses girls who are going through puberty, usually 12-14. Savile however, did the lot kids, pubescent and young under age young adults, ephebophile. Not only that, Savile abused both sexes everyone was fair game to him.

Once you understand that normally, as far as it can ever be construed as anything like normal, an offender will fit one of these specific three groups. With Savile it is almost unique as we are also pretty sure he went to the other end of the scale and was also a necrophiliac. In the end though, the psychology of abuse of any sort is rooted in power. To that extent some, who indulge in deliberate under-age sexual liaisons do it as an expression of their power. Others do it because their psychology means that they have feel the opposite, totally emasculated by adult life and then resort to taking power over minors in order to assuage feelings of total inadequacy.

More often than not, the abusers were abused themselves and the American word " Fag" has it roots in the English Private and Public School system where it stems from "Faggot". A Fag(got) was a younger male who was, in effect, an older boy's slave and that very often included sexual favours, including sodomy. Ergo, for a couple of hundred years we have had, in Britain a succession of people in powerful positions of power who think, having sex with minors is actually almost " A perk of the job" and is merely a continuation of the power structure they grew up with at school. In fact, in one case in Jersey a teacher who was convicted actually told Police that very thing.

"Surely it's just a perk of the job?"

That means this sort of sexual behaviour has been almost endemic throughout whole strata of British society and just quietly ignored by the everyone from the Church, a safe haven for them, to the justice system, often presided over by people who "understand" the crime and often personally, don't see it as a "serious" offence. .

What really needs to be established now , with regards to Savile, is as follows. To what extent was his deliberate targeting of everyone r from royalty through politicians to the pope was him simply engineering a situation that made him almost untouchable rather than, him acting as a procurer for those who see themselves as above the law by dint of their position in society?

If you do your reading up on what's been happening at "The Groucho Club", On "Jersey", even the Mcanns kid vanishing you will see a definite pattern. The moment under-age sex rears its' ugly head, then the following happens. records go missing , ala Peter Morrison, cautioned twice for under-age cottaging, confirmed by the police, yet no documents anywhere to be found. The Dunblane massacre, shed loads of official documents put under a 100 year rule that insiders have claimed, link the killer to a prominent Labour politician, later convicted of abusing children. The MP Tom Watson has said that one of his most trusted source, who has been 100% accurate in everything they have ever tipped him off about, says the Met Police in London have 100s if not 1000s of pages of evidence pertaining to the activities of Savile and yet, nothing was ever done, he was never even interviewed about it all.

The excuse of, "It's the crime no-one wants to talk about or even contemplate could happen" has actually been used to hide what does seem to be "an indulgence" that, a powerful elite and their friends wish to be able continue and no-one, including the police, are allowed to question it. Lets be plain here, many of those who work in child protection think there's about the following chances, if you were a child before the turn of the century. One in ten as a male that, you were inappropriately touched, abused or forced to take part in or watch, the abuse of others and 1 in 5 if you were female.

I remember when , in the 1980s people began to openly talk about this sort of thing, between each other. I was in a room with 13 other people, 8 guys 6 girls and 8 of that 14 had been sexually abused as kids. One guy, who went to a private school, had been gang raped on a beach, during a school trip, by older kids and a teacher to as he said "Put him in his place, as he was far too full of himself". The fact that six of us went to "single sex middle class schools" probably skews the sample a bit, however it serves to show just how big a problem this really is and partly, why so many are so reluctant to investigate.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Thank you.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:31 PM
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ATS never ceases to amaze me - a few seconds of edited vid - and BAM! people believe it



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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i hsate to open the ` can of worms ` labled " how victims should react " but look at her facial expression and hand movements - that is not indecent assault



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Alien44
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did you actually read any of these posts or just enjoy the pervy bits?


I just read the OP and commented, didn't really care to go deeper into this. I'm more concerned about the millions of cases of sexual harrassment that go unreported today than one that happened 30 years ago.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by SymbolicLogic
She's 19-20 years old and that makes him a pedophile? I guess I should only watch porn with 100 year old women? I'm not saying that what he did was right, honorable, or just... but I thought pedophilia was with 5 year old boys... not adult women.


That clip is now't to do with the main thrust of the belated investigation. Savile also hosted a long time programme called, 'Jim'll fix it' (for you) which was all to do with children. Also, contrary to some comments also voiced here, it was never kosher to stick your hand up a girl's dress as if okay by way of introduction, such stupid comments.

The satirical programme, 'Have I got news for you' some years back, but not so long ago, had this comedic mention of Savile,

www.youtube.com... almost a precursor if you like, makes me think at least some on the panel knew more, than they are currently saying.

This is the 'Exposure' programme when Savile was alive, and it is straight to the point. You might even ask yourself where is the fecking mystery?

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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I understand the tabloids would have loved it, but If I can recall an article I was reading about him showing up at some school or group home, though Jim denied he was there. He ended up suing a magazine because they had a photo of him being at this school. The mag ended up paying him 50k and pulled the piece.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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I believe a lot of people making comments in this thread are doing so in ignorance of just how large this is. If you want to find out more, there's a good video on youtube here:

There wasn't just one incident. He didn't just fondle adults, either.

Looked at as a single incident, he's a very sexist pig doing something that's probably a form of sexual harassment. If this had been in a nightclub, it would have a totally different context. But it's not. This is a kid and teenage show, basically. To think that he had access to all those underage girls...

I've seen guys do some ugly things to woman in the wrong places. Honestly, guys and girls can do some disgusting things. Lots of rapes/fondling never get reported. I also had my butt spanked by an older woman at work once, but it was a friendly one. I know that this world isn't perfect. But you CANNOT excuse his behavior, even if it's just this one instance where he went wrong.

I myself... am a virgin and never have had a GF or touched anyone like that. So I cannot really understand a philanderer or a "sexist pig". But I have seen guys do things. I'm mostly ignorant.

How could he accept it? How did he live with himself? The thought of it makes me mad. I mean, sex is one thing. An animal thing. But abusing the rights of another person is another...

EDIT: If you watch part 2, Wilfred De'ath says that he met Saville one night in a Chinese restaurant. He says Saville was with a young girl. He guesses she was 12. He asked Saville where she found her. He said Top of the Pops. He asked Saville if that was his Happy Hunting Ground. Saville said yes. He goes on to say that he gets a call the next morning from Saville who's in a hotel. Saville is in bed and tells him to talk to the girl that was with him the night before. She says hello to Wilfred and Wilfred says it just confirmed to him that she must have been around 12 years old. He says many people knew about this, but he was too young and afraid to say anything. Now, after watching this, I have to think Wilfred is deserving of some blame since he's all out confessing to knowing that Saville was with young girls and that he went after them on his show. But he wasn't the only one...
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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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Wow, Jimmy Savile: the Pedophile Norman Bates.

Did they find his dear mum in the basement?



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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I have a very good picture of Jimmy Savile, but I think it's a bit in bad taste right now.

involves a certain internet meme mixed with a portrait of Mr. Sa-Vile. If you can guess.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Sorry if this was brought up already, but why would the girl on the left look over, and even down at his hand/arm, and not have at least a slight reaction upon seeing it while laughing? I don't know though, I have to look at more examples from other videos.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Of course there is more to it than this one incident but this thread is about this one incident.

She states that it was the first time she had been there and she never went back, so she really doesn't fall into the category of victim like the other 300. Doesn't make what he did OK but it does make it seem like she is exaggerating for effect.


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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Watch this video:

It's plain he was a pedophile, at least. AT LEAST. It's actually worse than that. Wordweb says a pedophile is somebody who finds underage youth sexually attractive. But he went further than that. He was molesting girls on his show with an audience of probably hundreds of thousands that were unaware and yet he was surrounded by adults who were aware of his behavior and yet said nothing.

This is unreal. It's almost like sanctioned pedophilia.
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posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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I don't need to watch that video to know this but the OP is focused on this incident and the accompanying article.

You stated that some of the comments were made out of ignorance. I was pointing out that we were just keeping things on topic with the OP.



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