Petraeus Throws Obama Under the Bus

This fetid ball of *who done what* yarn is rapidly unraveling. The news leaks are starting to flow like a stab wound breaking open under a band aid. Now, I'm waiting for a *not me* statement from Hillary and the State Dept.

I never in a million years expected Petraeus to turn down this path...it's opposite from the one he's been peddling.

This was just announced on TV, am looking for more links, If you have any please post. TIA...Des

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need? www.weeklystandard.com...

It will be interesting to see who caves in next.

It will also be more interesting if some of the news networks (besides Fox) decide to start at least to cover the story. Even better if they would dig or put some pressure on the Obama Administration.

reply to post by snarky412

Yeah, maybe he can give a news conference on Comedy Central.

I'm not counting on any news conferences with him behind the podium anytime soon.

reply to post by snarky412


Just remember...as we are finding out how inept our own Government is...so is the rest of the World.

Des

reply to post by Destinyone


No where in your link does Patraeus say anything at all.

And besides the quote about the CIA not telling anyone to stand down, the rest is pure speculation.


Those dead American bodies have been dragged through so much political dirt it is unbelievable.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by snarky412

 

Yeah, maybe he can give a news conference on Comedy Central.

I'm not counting on any news conferences with him behind the podium anytime soon.

Nah, he's hiding behind Hollywood.....

David Letterman, Jay Leno, The View [puke]. etc........

Has he got no shame? No honor? [sigh]

He better take charge and soon, before he looses face and all credibility......if he has any left.

Originally posted by Taiyed
reply to post by Destinyone

 

No where in your link does Patraeus say anything at all.

And besides the quote about the CIA not telling anyone to stand down, the rest is pure speculation.


Those dead American bodies have been dragged through so much political dirt it is unbelievable.

You think the CIA releases a statement like this without the Directors knowledge? Sounds like you support an obvious cover up.

I would suggest this thread....

Related thread

Nice. A right-wing blog source.

Is there no end to the salivating over this issue?

Do you really think - for one minute - that Petraeus would sell out Obama? Those maybe be the official comments but they don't necessarily mean what you are interpreting.

Do you people believe everything you read on the web, or on ATS for that matter? Just because the thread title makes a claim, doesn't mean it's true.

reply to post by Sergeant Stiletto

Check out Fox News.

I know they won't live up to your standards, but you won't find the story in the rest of the MSM that are still Obama's bootlickers.

Originally posted by Taiyed
reply to post by Destinyone

 

No where in your link does Patraeus say anything at all.

And besides the quote about the CIA not telling anyone to stand down, the rest is pure speculation.


Those dead American bodies have been dragged through so much political dirt it is unbelievable.

So the OP is misleading, and a neocon? I'd have to consider after reading this article:

"You don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on," Panetta said. "(We) felt we could not put forces at risk in that situation."

Source



On top of...

"...it is important to understand that Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Dougherty and Tyrone Woods were not killed at a consulate office in Benghazi—as there is not such office there. They died at one of the largest CIA operations centers in the Middle East, which was located in Benghazi and served as the logistics headquarters for arms and weapons being shipped out of the post-Qaddafi Libya."

Source

ABC is covering the story a bit now.
Link

Oh, and Leon Panetta has been shown to be a liar in all of this now too.

Originally posted by Taiyed
reply to post by Destinyone

 

No where in your link does Patraeus say anything at all.

And besides the quote about the CIA not telling anyone to stand down, the rest is pure speculation.


Those dead American bodies have been dragged through so much political dirt it is unbelievable.

The White House could have put a stop to this from day 1.....by telling the truth.
But they choose to spin the story.....they did that to themselves.
And now it's come back to bit them in the azz....

They should have never "speculated" that the video caused this if they weren't sure.
When in doubt, "No Comment" until further investigation.

But now, they are saying "we didn't have enough info"...
Well, then why the hell did you say from the beginning it was because of the video????

Sorry, they can't have it both ways.....

If they had kept their mouths shut to begin with, if they didn't have enough info as they claim they did, then we wouldn't be harping on this weeks later.

They caused this "misinformation" gaff....
Should have had only one person speak for them and told all others to SHUT UP....
Now their stories don't jive with the facts.

reply to post by butcherguy


Agreed. Panetta is bat crap crazy. But, from your link:

In an interview with a Denver TV reporter Friday, President Obama twice refused to answer questions as to whether the Americans under siege in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012, were denied requests for help, saying he’s waiting for the results of investigations before making any conclusions about what went wrong.

How is that unreasonable?

Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by snarky412

 

Just remember...as we are finding out how inept our own Government is...so is the rest of the World.

Des

Yeah, with a failing economy, trillion dollars in debt, and now this fiasco which the administration could have curbed the criticism if they had handled it better, by telling the truth from the beginning.

Yep, our nation's credibility as viewed by other nations is going down the drain.
And the countries that despise us are taking note.....

reply to post by snarky412

Now their stories don't jive with the facts.

A lot of ugly facts that came out today.

According to the latest reports, the President was in a meeting with the Secretary of Defense one hour and twenty minutes after the attack began... the attack lasted SEVEN HOURS. Keep in mind that the four people that died were killed SIX HOURS after the attack began. The coded flash messages were sent out at the very beginning of the attack. One would have to be a fool to believe that the President was not aware of what was happening while he was in that meeting. Real time video was available of the attack while he was in the meeting.

It is possible that he wasn't informed of the security issues before the attack. When the embassy flash messages went out at the beginning of the attack and then confirmed within minutes, he was most certainly made aware. The result was that the people under fire were refused help. The CIA employees that requested permission to assist the personnel at the consulate were denied that permission repeatedly. Four of those employees disobeyed those orders and went to the consulate to assist. Several were killed in their heroic attempt, but consulate employees were saved and rescued through their efforts.

Watching Fox News live, I heard them say that one hour and twenty minutes after the attack at Benghazi started, the President was in a meeting with the Secretary of Defense and National Security advisor. There were live video feeds of the attack available at the time. They are reporting that the drones were over the scene shortly after the attacks began. They were in the air in the area at the time, and were redirected to the consulate for recon.

There were AC130 Spectre gunships available nearby, personnel at the consulate were illuminating enemy targets with lasers to facilitate an accurate strike by the gunship...... They were refused assistance.

Originally posted by Sergeant Stiletto
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Agreed. Panetta is bat crap crazy. But, from your link:

In an interview with a Denver TV reporter Friday, President Obama twice refused to answer questions as to whether the Americans under siege in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012, were denied requests for help, saying he’s waiting for the results of investigations before making any conclusions about what went wrong.

How is that unreasonable?

If he hadn't let his underlings push a false story for two weeks after the attack, it might be reasonable. But now that we know more about what actually happened, he obviously knew better than the lies he had his spokespeople telling us.

reply to post by butcherguy


Well..we could look at it this way...Maybe Obama is telling the truth. Maybe he didn't know squat. Maybe, his own administration thinks he's so damn dumb, and out of the loop, they don't tell him anything, because it's a waste of their time.

Yeppers...that's the *only* way Obama is telling the truth. Not exactly my idea of a Commander and Chief...nor my President.

Des

reply to post by butcherguy


The sh@t just gets deeper and deeper.....
But they have done this to themselves, no one else.

They should have stuck with "no comment" until further review....
Or admit from the beginning that there was a communication problem and 4 lives were lost.

True, either way would have brought on criticism but nothing compared to the likes of what is happening now.

The administration is responsible for this whole mess getting out of control.
[should have just come clean from the start]

reply to post by Americanist

So the OP is misleading, and a neocon?

Ahh yes......immediately try to discredit and downplay by personally attacking the poster......

Last line of defense against an argument going down the tubes......and typical.......