Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by elouina
you seem well versed from the posts i've read so i was surprised that Feb 17 was news to you.
the link you offered, i read as i hadn't seen it before but i cannot blindly accept that timeline with what i've been reading for almost a month now.
hmmm, if that was news, try this on for curiousity sake.
the title won't pass ATS censors, so please cut/paste to search or google "Penetta Doctrine" [spelled wrong on purpose]
i find it odd that CNN doesn't name their source (any of them), especially when Dempsey has been quite vocal about the denial, and of course, there's the Panetta Doctine (above c/p link) and the basic presumption that 'security' shouldn't have to arrive if they are tasked with protecting the consulate, should they ??
ETA -- and here's another point that nags at me ... the primary excuse is poor intel ... well ok, since there is an existing "investigation", why aren't the participating militia members being interviewed ?? [you know, those Feb 17 guys who agreed to the post]
i'd have to spend some time looking for it, but, i do remember reading something about this "possibility" ... since we don't really know any details, i guess anything is possible.
it is said that the whole debacle was a pre-planned, coordinated kidnapping gone wrong.
there was a prisoner exchange value they wanted to exploit. (they being alCIAda)edit on 2-11-2012 by Honor93 because: ETAedit on 2-11-2012 by Honor93 because: typoedit on 2-11-2012 by Honor93 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by buckrogerstime
Ok those were just a small number of communications out of many. Even your own sources state this. Picking and choosing bits out of all the evidence is a disservice to the American people. And is intended to perpetuate the lies. Just the same as they will not release the drone videos. In "real time", those in the situation room got to see exactly what happened. So no matter what "bits and pieces" you pick up from the internet, the real proof is in those videos. And I see no reason why we should not have those. Concentrate on the real evidence, not what is being spoon fed to you.
from a source that will not link here properly (ATS censors) ... search: Penetta Doctrine [spelled wrong on purpose] scroll into the comments section and read the post from - Duck Bank
Two more considerations: The pulse repetition frequency code of the laser target designator and laser-guided munitions (the Hellfire missile on a Predator, for example) must be compatible, and the ground laser designators run on batteries. For the first consideration, Woods would've had to talk to any Predator or Reaper operator to make sure his designator was compatible with the missiles. For the second consideration, he wouldn't have turned on his ground laser designator and used up his battery power unless an air strike was imminent.
Prior to Tyrone Woods painting a target, he had to have been in contact with someone for quite a long time in order to work out all the technical aspects of an air strike. Panetta and Obama would've been listening to all that.
from the same poster.
It seems pretty definite that Woods synched up with an aerial platform, thinking an air strike was about to be carried out, and then someone ordered the aerial platform to not engage. This order came only after Woods painted the target. Whoever gave the order waited until Woods had exposed his position, and then he--Panetta and/or Obama--told the pilot of the aerial platform to not fire.
Whoever told the aerial platform to not fire knew that Woods would soon be killed. Whoever gave the order would have heard the conversation between Woods and the pilot of the aerial platform, so the order giver must have heard Woods shouting on the radio, "Why aren't you firing? Fire! What are you waiting for? Hurry!"
And then Woods was killed because the attackers used their cell phones or night-vision goggles to pinpoint Woods' position, and they dropped a mortar on him.
well of course not, they (CIA team on the ground) weren't receiving said images, were they ???
At 5:41 p.m. Eastern time, Mrs. Clinton called Mr. Petraeus. She wanted to make sure the two agencies were on the same page. Shortly before that call, at 4:30 p.m., the Pentagon’s command center had alerted Defense Secretary Panetta and others to the attack. Minutes later, the U.S. military’s Africa Command redirected an unarmed drone from its surveillance mission over militant camps to Benghazi. When the drone arrived at 5:11 p.m. Eastern time, cameras captured images of burning buildings, helping officials in Washington pinpoint which facilities had been targeted by militants. But the images didn’t help the CIA team on the ground respond to the attacks, officials said.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NickDC202
hmmm, thanks for pointing out that you noticed it, i wouldn't have
yes, i do find that rather striking indeed.
someone without a reputation to put on the line ... there are no better patsies.
Originally posted by elouina
reply to post by Honor93
Yes, I still have faith in the media. And Fox news is one of the few outlets to provide accurate investigative information along with proof. Thus why there is an obvious campaign to discredit them. Fox is the last shred of American decency, and I thank them.
Myself, I am not interested in theories that others have postulated unless proof can be obtained. I like to read the facts presented to me and make my own determinations. I can be a bit stubborn in that respect, since I refuse to go along with the majority if I feel they are wrong. I am particularly interested in your idea of the lased target. And I feel that you should make an organized thread of your suspicions. Not just a post here in this already existing thread. Then we could work together in an organized effort to find the proof we need. Count me in. I am pretty good at investigative work when I have an objective.
The President of the United States has numerous powers, including those explicitly granted by Article II of the Constitution, implied powers, powers granted by Acts of Congress, and enormous influence and soft power from his position as leader of the United States.