Originally posted by Vitruvian
Originally posted by milominderbinder
Cool. So...correct me if I'm wrong...but it looks like we agree on the following.
Can you think of any other ones?
When we really start rattling off ALL of the possibilities...we start to get a pretty complex picture of the events...don't we?
I have a few questions to add to your well thought out list:
8. Does the US government presently have troops secretly stationed in Jordan?
9. Did the president, the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and CIA Director General Petraeus and others have pre - ordained information regarding
upcoming events, and were they watching those events as they unfolded in real time? If so who else watched it unfold and who else knows now?
10. Given the fact that presidential candidates get special TS security briefings - does Governor Romney now know all of what happened?
11. How did the "stand down order"(s) come to be and who gave them? Given what we know now about the 9/11 attacks we can see that there was NO
attempt to even try to save to save our people in Libya, that we didn’t do anything to rescue them. In fact whoever gave the “stand down(s)”
order to our forces at the annex in Benghazi is responsible for the actual killing of ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith because it’s highly likely
that the small force from the Annex could have disrupted the attack and likely saved Stevens and Smith.
edit on 30-10-2012 by Vitruvian because: txt
Sure. I'll go with those. Now...do you have any actual
evidence for ANY of items 1-11 that are attributable to a named source, have a
document which we can reference, or any credible reason why we should think that one scenario is more likely than the other?
I can't find A THING.
Troops in Jordan? -- Well...this is the first I heard of it, and I have no idea at all what it has to do with Benghazi...but I would imagine that we
do. We pretty much have a military installation just about everywhere.
Did the Admin have knowledge of anything, watch it unfold in real time, etc? -- No idea. I have no more reason to believe this is any more likely or
probable than it the Israeli Mossad or KGB that fired the rocket and the video was a faked. Or space aliens or bigfoot for that matter. I'm
certainly not going to just assume that they did because a pundit on TV keeps asking "Did
the president know about the attack beforehand..."
and never being able to move past the rhetorical question with some type...ANY TYPE of material evidence OF ANY KIND!!
Does Romney know everything? -- Again. No idea. Has Romney specifically stated that he was not
briefed on the situation? I haven't heard
that. All I hear is Romney continuing to ask the same "Benghazi Questions" over and over again. For all you or I know Romney could have been
briefed in full and in perfect agreement with how Obama handled the situation. However...if it's classified info then Romney could just keep asking
the same questions over and over knowing full well that Obama simply CANNOT come out address them openly for Reasons X,Y, & Z. If you have a current
video from yesterday or today of Romney stating in no uncertain terms that he has not been briefed on the situation...let me know. It seems like
it's just a bunch of wild speculation to me, though.
Stand down order? What stand down order????
. During the 9-11 attacks we had the testimony from the US Secretary of Transportation
Norman Mineta that Dick Cheney personally issued a stand down order. Eyewitness testimony isn't rock solid...but at least SOMEBODY of a fairly
decent reputation will stand up and vouch for the validity of the allegation. The guy stood nothing to gain and everything to lose considering he was
a member of the Bush Admin's OWN CABINET...but he did it anyways. It's still possible that Mineta misheard, misinterpreted, or is simply lying
because he has an axe to grind w/ Cheney...but it DOES at least meet the MINIMUM requirements to be considered circumstantial evidence.
To date, I believe all we have about Benghazi is Newt Gingrich saying that he heard from an unnamed "source" that a different "unnamed source"
gave two "unnamed news networks" damning "documents" with orders to stand down from a ret. USMC GENERAL
who was the Bush
Administrations Supreme Allied Commander of Europe (SACEUR)
...essentially the same position as Dwight D. Eisenhower once held.
So...the best that Newt Gingrinch
can do is say that the USMC General Jones who was repeatedly asked to be the Deputy Secretary of State
by Condoleezza Rice issued a stand down order... MAYBE THERE WAS A DAMN GOOD REASON FOR IT???
Assuming it even happened of course. Right now all we have is a guy that we know lied to and cheated on two of his cancer stricken wives who is
involved in a children's game of "telephone".