Horrible EU poster. "Praise Joseph Stalin + worldorder"

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Worldpeace would be nice, but i doubt you get it through religions or communism.

You'r statement about nations going into unions going into order seams a little off to me. Can you name any time in history that actually happened? What happened in Rome...or Athens.....?

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People do not understand why our leaders are poisoning this planet,are they not
thus poisoning themselves.
You cannot understand all the reversal attitudes on earth,the double negatives.
The poisoning of all of you i dare you to read an explanation of the TRUTH.
Read and get sick if you are not one of them.I know most don't believe there spirit.
You better start waking up to the truth,this info is part of there release to all of
you from there LUCIFERIAN GOD.

Kinda reminds me of the coexist symbols.










But yes... I'm sure these are all evil NWO ploys too.

Originally posted by Rebroadcast

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Your granddad is fine. He didn't fight the germans, he fought the nazi's, whom were based in Germany...but most germans didn't want the nazi's either...they just had to deal with them considering they were the ones with the guns.

I guess you ignored that bit where they voted Hitler and his NSDAP party into power. He then launched a coup and installed himself as dictator.

So despite knowing what Hitler stood for, and seeing what his henchmen were doing to innocent people, they still voted for him.

We fought the Nazis, the Nazis were willing Germans.

Yet the Germans still come out with this bollox about the Nazis not representing Germany or Germans, all the while they sink their claws into Europe and attempt to impose laws on other countries.

edit on 26-10-2012 by Rebroadcast because: (no reason given)

I think it might be good to brush up on history. His rise to power is quite interesting

In the presidential election held on March 13, 1932, there were four candidates: the incumbent, Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg, Hitler, and two minor candidates, Ernst Thaelmann and Theodore Duesterberg. The results were:

Hindenburg 49.6 percent
Hitler 30.1 percent
Thaelmann 13.2 percent
Duesterberg 6.8 percent

At the risk of belaboring the obvious, almost 70 percent of the German people voted against Hitler, causing his supporter Joseph Goebbels, who would later become Hitler’s minister of propaganda, to lament in his journal, “We’re beaten; terrible outlook. Party circles badly depressed and dejected.”

Since Hindenberg had not received a majority of the vote, however, a runoff election had to be held among the top three vote-getters. On April 19, 1932, the runoff results were:

Hindenburg 53.0 percent
Hitler 36.8 percent
Thaelmann 10.2 percent


Thus, even though Hitler’s vote total had risen, he still had been decisively rejected by the German people.

Long story short, he couldn't win..the people didn';t want him, so his party started a terror campaign, the national socialists were elected to keep the people safe (funny that considering they were the ones behind the scenes causing the havoc). Hitler then demanded he become Chancellor of the new government..no election necessary. From there, you may have the outline of the rest.

But no, Hitler was never elected to anything. He was about as popular as Sarah Palin at a PITA convention.

Party. The party won 230 seats in the Reichstag, making it Germany’s largest political party, but it still fell short of a majority in the 608-member body.

On the basis of that victory, Hitler demanded that President Hindenburg appoint him chancellor and place him in complete control of the state. Otto von Meissner, who worked for Hindenburg, later testified at Nuremberg,

Hindenburg replied that because of the tense situation he could not in good conscience risk transferring the power of government to a new party such as the National Socialists, which did not command a majority and which was intolerant, noisy and undisciplined.
Political deadlocks in the Reichstag soon brought a new election, this one in November 6, 1932. In that election, the Nazis lost two million votes and 34 seats. Thus, even though the National Socialist Party was still the largest political party, it had clearly lost ground among the voters.

Attempting to remedy the chaos and the deadlocks, Hindenburg fired Papen and appointed an army general named Kurt von Schleicher as the new German chancellor. Unable to secure a majority coalition in the Reichstag, however, Schleicher finally tendered his resignation to Hindenburg, 57 days after he had been appointed.

On January 30, 1933, President Hindenburg appointed Adolf Hitler chancellor of Germany. Although the National Socialists never captured more than 37 percent of the national vote, and even though they still held a minority of cabinet posts and fewer than 50 percent of the seats in the Reichstag, Hitler and the Nazis set out to to consolidate their power. With Hitler as chancellor, that proved to be a fairly easy task.

So, ya...history...its fun to know.

Your father was fighting the nazi's, comprised of a minority mindset of germans. Most of the germans were held hostage like every other nation that the nazi's invaded.

Originally posted by Mimir
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Worldpeace would be nice, but i doubt you get it through religions or communism.

You'r statement about nations going into unions going into order seams a little off to me. Can you name any time in history that actually happened? What happened in Rome...or Athens.....?

We are trying that now. Its a slow process...if it was already successfully done in our past, then we would already be united...but civilization is young. We made the USA work, many states under a nation (there was a war about 100 years after its establishment, but that was sorted out). And in time, more and more unification will come. NAFTA was a start, however, nations need equality amongst each other for good trade and unity...else it won't work..so, the US, Canada, and say western europe (UK Especially) could create a union tomorrow that would work fine...

See the trend and see its natural evolution.

In regards to Rome. You can look at it and think it failed..but what your overlooking is that it stood strong and Dominant for a thousand years. Not bad considering their enforcement came through philosophy and swords. Its our instinct to unite...as a group, it is a driving force. United we stand and all that stuff.

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The Germans were willing Nazis and they remain to this day dedicated to controlling Europe. 70 years down the line they haven't changed one tiny bit.

That nation should have been broken up and divided amongst its' international neighbours. The whole German national identity should have been thrown to the landfill of history and outlawed, but the Continental Europeans wanted to give them another chance, falling for their bogus claims to have changed.

Once the EU finally collapses, I hope the Continental Europeans or us English do not miss this chance.

I guess there are two ways of looking at that star and the way it's included the symbols.

First, it includes everyone, from every side and every extreme. That's one way.

It's also accurate to say that when they stand for everything, they really stand for nothing.

I'm not sure we can really find a society in history where a true free for all of every belief and every side coexisted with no issues for any length of time.

I'd also love to see, for who mentioned this, just where the Hammer and Sickle as been used on any other flag in that configuration, at that angle. It's unique to one flag and one Nation's symbol. The now defunct U.S.S.R.. Never seen it since, where it wasn't directly in reference to the Soviet Union or the ideology they followed.

Originally posted by Rebroadcast
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

The Germans were willing Nazis and they remain to this day dedicated to controlling Europe. 70 years down the line they haven't changed one tiny bit.

That nation should have been broken up and divided amongst its' international neighbours. The whole German national identity should have been thrown to the landfill of history and outlawed, but the Continental Europeans wanted to give them another chance, falling for their bogus claims to have changed.

Once the EU finally collapses, I hope the Continental Europeans or us English do not miss this chance.

Thats like saying because the south had rebels, the entire US should have been dissolved after the civil war, because dumb rednecks would always exist.

Nothing wrong with the German identity..they have been strong resolute fighters for centuries..all nations have their issues, the Germans just had a major issue for awhile.

And they were broken up for awhile also, (east and west, google: Berlin Wall. I actually have a piece of it in my collection).
Its not acceptable to be ignorant of historical context, and at the same time weigh in on historical matters with pretend authority in the age where all the information of the world is right at your fingertips.

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I would say the french have far more influence on the commission than the germans.

Your find the germans have the most power in the EU, because of their economy.

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Communist party of China.

Also:

A flag featuring a yellow hammer and sickle on a red field is flown commonly throughout Laos, often side-by-side with the Laotian flag.
Two federal subjects of the post-Soviet Russian Federation use the hammer and sickle in their symbols: the Vladimir Oblast has them on its flag and the Bryansk Oblast has them on its coat of arms, which is also the central element of its flag. In addition, the Russian city of Oryol also uses the hammer and sickle on its flag.
The former Soviet (now Russian) national airline, Aeroflot, continues to use the hammer and sickle in its symbol.
The separatist government of Transnistria uses (with minor modifications) the flag and the emblem of the former Moldavian SSR, which include the hammer and sickle. The flag can also be used without the hammer and sickle in some circumstances, for example on Transnistrian-issued license plates.
The Communist Party of China uses it as the party symbol. It is also used by Communist Parties in most countries.
The Maoist group, Shining Path in Peru uses it as part of its symbol.
A hammer and a sickle are both prominently included in the Austrian coat of arms, although they are not superimposed over each other and are not intended to represent communism, rather the union of the workers and the former aristocracy (represented by a crown) within the Austrian Republic.

Source.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
It's unique to one flag and one Nation's symbol. The now defunct U.S.S.R.. Never seen it since, where it wasn't directly in reference to the Soviet Union or the ideology they followed.

See, thats where it doesn't make sense. If it was national symbols, then sure...all nations. If it was just religious symbols, then again, sure...all religions...if it was both, then all nations and religions...but its not. I see one nation, and the rest are religion.

I would fire the guy whom designed the poster. then maybe just use that pic of all different colored hands holding each others wrist in a circle...that says all that ever needs to be said about anything about unity. Should be the symbol of earth actually.

This poster is illogical.

Originally posted by Hefficide
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Communist party of China.

Also:

A flag featuring a yellow hammer and sickle on a red field is flown commonly throughout Laos, often side-by-side with the Laotian flag.
Two federal subjects of the post-Soviet Russian Federation use the hammer and sickle in their symbols: the Vladimir Oblast has them on its flag and the Bryansk Oblast has them on its coat of arms, which is also the central element of its flag. In addition, the Russian city of Oryol also uses the hammer and sickle on its flag.
The former Soviet (now Russian) national airline, Aeroflot, continues to use the hammer and sickle in its symbol.
The separatist government of Transnistria uses (with minor modifications) the flag and the emblem of the former Moldavian SSR, which include the hammer and sickle. The flag can also be used without the hammer and sickle in some circumstances, for example on Transnistrian-issued license plates.
The Communist Party of China uses it as the party symbol. It is also used by Communist Parties in most countries.
The Maoist group, Shining Path in Peru uses it as part of its symbol.
A hammer and a sickle are both prominently included in the Austrian coat of arms, although they are not superimposed over each other and are not intended to represent communism, rather the union of the workers and the former aristocracy (represented by a crown) within the Austrian Republic.

Source.

That actually makes less sense then.

A party in China (the chinese flag is yellow stars on a red background). Not even a nation itself, but a party within a nation.

Bit like having a ton of religious symbols, then a elephant to represent the republican party of the US...
sort of a wtf moment

reply to post by SaturnFX


Your right that the Roman empire lastet for a long time and was relative peacefull near Rome, but near the boarders it was'nt safe...and corruption was'nt uncommon in the ruling class.

You are also right that we could try and establish a western union tomorrow, i just think it would be doomed to fail, did you see the recent development in Europe over the last few years?...now you have huge weekly demonstrations and/or riots mostly because of the economy, but its directed against the union, which does have a LOT to say about our current situation.

Many European citizen's feel kidnapped by government, who keep signing on to more decentralization inspite of huge numbers against it. One example is the fiscal stability treaty signed in the spring....in Denmark ALL poll's showed 85-95% of the population was against this treaty, inspite of that our government signs it - breaking our constitution. This is just one of hundreds of examples on how the peoples opposition to the union has rissen, since the horrible Lissabontreaty was signed - also against the Danish constitution.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Thats like saying because the south had rebels, the entire US should have been dissolved after the civil war, because dumb rednecks would always exist.

It is absolutely nothing like what whatsoever. That is perhaps the single most stupid argument I have ever read.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Nothing wrong with the German identity..they have been strong resolute fighters for centuries..all nations have their issues, the Germans just had a major issue for awhile.

Except for the seemingly built in desire to dominate and control Europe from Berlin. They have never been "strong resolute fighters", they have attacked the weakest nations, slaughtered the weakest people in horrific invasions and genocide. Any nation that conducts itself in the way they did during WW2 and the EU era has no legitimacy or right to exist.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
And they were broken up for awhile also, (east and west, google: Berlin Wall. I actually have a piece of it in my collection).

Except they weren't "broken up", were they? Germany still existed, still longed for a Europe controlled from Germany.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Its not acceptable to be ignorant of historical context, and at the same time weigh in on historical matters with pretend authority in the age where all the information of the world is right at your fingertips.

Except you yourself are ignorant. If you had even the slightest understanding of what German financial policy across the European continent was causing, you wouldn't be worshiping the ground they walk on.

All this information you talk about seems to have bypassed you, because you haven't got one single clue about the matter you are spewing your rubbish about.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
It's unique to one flag and one Nation's symbol. The now defunct U.S.S.R.. Never seen it since, where it wasn't directly in reference to the Soviet Union or the ideology they followed.

See, thats where it doesn't make sense. If it was national symbols, then sure...all nations. If it was just religious symbols, then again, sure...all religions...if it was both, then all nations and religions...but its not. I see one nation, and the rest are religion.

I would fire the guy whom designed the poster. then maybe just use that pic of all different colored hands holding each others wrist in a circle...that says all that ever needs to be said about anything about unity. Should be the symbol of earth actually.

This poster is illogical.

You will find the star and moon on the Turkish flag.

Originally posted by TheMaverick
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

I would say the french have far more influence on the commission than the germans.

Your find the germans have the most power in the EU, because of their economy.

No doubt the Germans are the walletholders of the union, however, influence is more than just money hoarders.

I simply don't find the germans a threat at all..not even a slight threat. They are in my opinion a strong western ally now. They provide good cars and other machines, good films (for adults also), good food, great beer, a strong economy, etc. Outside of them putting their towels down at vacation resorts the second the sun comes up to claim the best seats around the pool while they aren't even there, I have no complaints about them.

And the average german is far more guarded against the rise of dictators in their midst moreso than any other western nation. Their schools teach the students of this greatly.

The European ambitions for a working union is a good ambition. It will create friendly consumer based competition to the US that we all benefit from. From there is where we get technological progression.

Wow, I have gone soo far out of the topic..sorry ops..no more idealistic sermons.

Originally posted by Mimir
You will find the star and moon on the Turkish flag.

I took that to be the symbol of islam

The cross is clearly christian, and not the cross on the norweigen flag...

Heres the official explanation for the poster, it was part of a poster contest and has now been removed so as not to offend

"The poster is not a European Commission poster. It was part of a series of posters hanging in a corridor which were made by artists in the context of a competition by the Czech Council on Foreign Relations. This competition was not funded by the EU," Giedrius Sudikas, spokesman for the commission's office in Lithuania, told AFP.

"As soon as the controversial symbol was pointed out, the poster was immediately removed. The building managers of all the Commission's buildings have now been asked to check if this poster is being displayed anywhere else on Commission property and remove it."

Linky

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Thank you for the clarification! So no mushy defense, just an acknowledgement that someone missed catching this in reviews and it's down. Sounds like the best any can ask after the initial Oops on the miss.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by TheMaverick
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

I would say the french have far more influence on the commission than the germans.

Your find the germans have the most power in the EU, because of their economy.

No doubt the Germans are the walletholders of the union, however, influence is more than just money hoarders.

I simply don't find the germans a threat at all..not even a slight threat. They are in my opinion a strong western ally now. They provide good cars and other machines, good films (for adults also), good food, great beer, a strong economy, etc. Outside of them putting their towels down at vacation resorts the second the sun comes up to claim the best seats around the pool while they aren't even there, I have no complaints about them.

And the average german is far more guarded against the rise of dictators in their midst moreso than any other western nation. Their schools teach the students of this greatly.

The European ambitions for a working union is a good ambition. It will create friendly consumer based competition to the US that we all benefit from. From there is where we get technological progression.

Wow, I have gone soo far out of the topic..sorry ops..no more idealistic sermons.

Well I'm sure the Greek people find that little sermon as sickening as I do.

www.express.co.uk...

JUST hours after Germany issued a chilling warning that war could again engulf Europe, EU leaders made a desperate 1 trillion bid to save the euro.