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Depopulation of Indigenous Populations in the West, Russia and Japan is a Fact

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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


Because it explains why Western governments are pursuing large scale immigration. To keep up population numbers due to the fact that indigenous populations are not having enough children to maintain numbers.



Pure and utter bovine excrement.

I live in Arizona which has about the largest population of illegals, plus legal immigrants. Perhaps those people just haven't come to the conclusion that having children is not a wise thing to do if you can't support them.

I have children aged 31, 30, and two that are 28.

I raised them to not have children just for the sake of having children.

While I would love to have grandchildren some day, if my kids can't afford them, I won't be sad if they never have any.

Perhaps what you are upset with, is the third world aspect of reproducing, or the lack of being able to use contraceptives.

I still think your post smacks of bigotry and racism.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by WoodSpirit

Also, depopulation has a malevolant intent, we just don't want, and have as much children as we used to. It's more of a cultural thing.



Yet the West has a graying population that needs younger people to be working to support the retired.

Dropping populations mean that the old cannot adequately be cared for, hence the large scale immigration undertaken in a number of Western countries.

The problem is, immigrant women's children then have fewer children themselves. Immigration is just kicking the can down the road.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


It is quite fascinating that a number of responses to the OP appear to designed to bury any debate about the collapse of indigenous Western populations in a flurry of accusations of racism.

Weird.


Perhaps it's because you titled your post that depopulation is a fact. Nowhere in the title did you say that depopulation of indigenous western populations is a fact.

Get over yourself..........



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Dropping populations mean that the old cannot adequately be cared for, hence the large scale immigration undertaken in a number of Western countries.


And when did this large scale immigration happen, and where? It didn't happen in the last 40 years.

Proof, sources?

Like I said, as far as I know, European countries are opposed to immigration and it's very hard to become a citizen.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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What do you guys think about the black mold meningitis? It's source is for the most part unknown, it "creeps" in from back pain shots. A good way to depopulate a country would be to set up a false pretense that the population were getting "immunizations", but in reality, the product that was meant to protect them is "laced" or swapped with the Black Mold Meningitis. Pretty much fool proof, most people don't think twice about getting their immunization shots, the BMM might not be as fast acting as the flesh eating bacteria, Necrotizing Fasciitis, but you'd would want something more deadly more so than something quick.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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You are absolutely right about immigrants kids having less children.

They just adjust to the current lifestyle where they think, they can enjoy life longer if they had no or less kids.

In that sense, yes Depopulation is a fact. But OP still confuses me.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel

Perhaps what you are upset with, is the third world aspect of reproducing, or the lack of being able to use contraceptives.

I still think your post smacks of bigotry and racism.



I feel that your post lacks a point.

By the way, the West had the population explosion in the past. Now the West's population is collapsing, saved only, in some countries, by large scale immigration.

There is nothing necessarily wrong with immigration.

It is however fascinating that you cannot read the word 'immigrant' without going into a flurry of politically correct abuse.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Oh, that's okay then.

As long as they're only talking about awful and inhumane ways to control the populations of the world, that's fine. It's not as if these people are in hugely influential positions of power anyway....oh, wait...



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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World populations are rising, so depopulation is not a fact. Regional growth in any area is dependent upon several things including economics and social factors. The truth is people in the west are voluntarily choosing to have less children so that they can have more money.

Other factors to consider would be infant mortality rates, cultural life expectancies, etc. A single child born in, say, Norway, is likely to outlive an entire family of 8 or 9 children from the third world.

~Heff
edit on 10/26/12 by Hefficide because: yeah, I never pay attention when I'm writing... blame the cute neighbor woman for jogging while I was posting.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel

Perhaps it's because you titled your post that depopulation is a fact. Nowhere in the title did you say that depopulation of indigenous western populations is a fact.



Thanks for the constructive criticism. I have changed the title.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
I feel that your post lacks a point.

By the way, the West had the population explosion in the past. Now the West's population is collapsing, saved only, in some countries, by large scale immigration.

There is nothing necessarily wrong with immigration.

It is however fascinating that you cannot read the word 'immigrant' without going into a flurry of politically correct abuse.


No, that is not the point at all. Your thread title says depopulation is a fact. Prove it already.

You further along explain that it is of indigenous populations.

Depopulation is in fact a lie on your part, because you don't like the fact that other races are filling in the gap.

Troll much?



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


Thanks for the constructive criticism. I have changed the title.




Thanks!



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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I'd also like to add the fact that indigenous populations on your part is incorrect.

What makes up the population of the West, and Russia?

I am mostly Germanic, Swedish and English by heritage. The father of my children is from Germany, but he has roots from Iran..........

What makes up the Russian population?

LOL, the Germanic roots I have are actually from Prussia which is Germany combined with Russia!

Face facts, you are just an ubber racist!

I can trace my roots all the way back to William the Conquerer! Trace his family roots!
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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel

No, that is not the point at all. Your thread title says depopulation is a fact. Prove it already.

You further along explain that it is of indigenous populations.

Depopulation is in fact a lie on your part, because you don't like the fact that other races are filling in the gap.

Troll much?



You not only abuse too much, you assume too much. My partner is of a different race, while my child is of mixed race.

Could you keep you spasms of politically correctness in check?

It is fascinating that the indigenous populations are collapsing in Russia, Japan and the West, yet the Western press feels that it isn't news worthy.

Truly puzzling.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


You not only abuse too much, you assume too much. My partner is of a different race, while my child is of mixed race.

Could you keep you spasms of politically correctness in check?

It is fascinating that the indigenous populations are collapsing in Russia, Japan and the West, yet the Western press feels that it isn't news worthy.

Truly puzzling.


See, I don't have a problem with that in the least. I could care less actually. It's not I that has a problem with this but you do..



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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel

I can trace my roots all the way back to William the Conquerer!


I'm happy for you.


Originally posted by Sissel

Face facts, you are just an ubber racist!


BTW, why are you so keen to stop any reporting of the fact that indigenous populations are collapsing in the West, Japan and Russia?

I believe the Russians and Japanese are quite worried about it.

In the West, to even mention it risks the accusation of being an 'ubber racist'.

Nor do the press think it is even newsworthy.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel

See, I don't have a problem with that in the least. I could care less actually. It's not I that has a problem with this but you do..


What I have a problem with, is the lack of integration of many immigrants in the West. Certainly in Europe.

The US seems successful at building a culturally homogenous society of immigrants which reduces racist/cultural tensions. Europe less so.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


BTW, why are you so keen to stop any reporting of the fact that indigenous populations are collapsing in the West, Japan and Russia?

I believe the Russians and Japanese are quite worried about it.

In the West, to even mention it risks the accusation of being an 'ubber racist'.

Nor do the press think it is even newsworthy.



No, it doesn't matter to me in the least. Why? Because what it all boils down to is that we are all people. Blending, which is what you post is all about it is not offensive to me.

I think the world would be a better place with a combination of people and blended heritage.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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Depopulation is only happening in the wealthy countries.

It has been proven that the poorer the country the greater the birth rate.

I think that it is possibly hard wired into our genetics.

Even in the US and Canada, if you look at a successful suburban neighborhood, most families consist of one or two children living in a McMansion.

But cross town into the poverty stricken part of town and you'll see plenty of kids. Usually fatherless, but plenty of them nonetheless.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel
No, it doesn't matter to me in the least. Why? Because what it all boils down to is that we are all people. Blending, which is what you post is all about it is not offensive to me.

I think the world would be a better place with a combination of people and blended heritage.


I see nothing wrong with cultures blending.

Multiculturalism is not about blending.It is about multiple cultures living side by side and respecting each others differences.

The danger is that it can lead to Balkanisation. That ended badly in the Balkans.



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