Depopulation of Indigenous Populations in the West, Russia and Japan is a Fact

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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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The West, Russia and Japan have not been producing enough children for a number of years to maintain population numbers, hence the huge number of immigrants being allowed into the West.

Generally 2.1 to 2.2 births per women is required to maintain population numbers in developed countries.

List of sovereign states and dependent territories by fertility rate

Number of children born per woman (UN, CIA & World Bank sources).

Italy 1.38 - 1.4
Germany 1.39 - 1.41
Spain 1.41 - 1.48
France 1.89 -2.08
United Kingdom 1.82 - 192
United Sates 2.05 - 2.1
Japan 1.29 - 1.39
Russia 1.34 - 1.54
China 1.55 -1-73
Australia 1.79 - 1.92

Italy, Germany, Spain and most other Western countries have indigenous populations that are collapsing. As is Japan's, Russia's and even to a lesser extent China's.

France, the UK and the USA only keep their births as high as they are due to huge levels of immigration. Many of the children being born are those of immigrants.

In effect, Caucasians are not having enough children and they are being replaced with immigrants and their children.

Depopulation is a fact.

One can only speculate why it isn't even news worthy in the Western press.

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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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How is it a DEpopulation if the numbers are maintained by immigrants?

or are you saying immigrants are the reason for Caucasian not having children?

Depopulation happens when more death than births, i do not see AK47s and nuclear bombs magically popping up children where ever they land/explode.


edit: who are the indigenous population? the native or the settlers that depopulated the natives?
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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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See, I still think we're ALL having too many children.

Nearly everyone I went to school with are now on their second child at the age of 21 - What ever happened to wanting careers and traveling? Well, the welfare system it is I guess.

Mind you, saying that, families are getting smaller, I have 20 first aunts and uncles - Not including marriages and stuff....



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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Thanks for the post . Depopulation is the fact . They want to depopulize the world into few millions



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
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How is it a DEpopulation if the numbers are maintained by immigrants?

or are you saying immigrants are the reason for Caucasian not having children?



I have said neither of those things.

Please read the facts. Indigenous populations are collapsing in the West.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino
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In effect, Caucasians are not having enough children and they are being replaced with immigrants and their children.

Depopulation is a fact.

One can only speculate why it isn't even news worthy in the Western press.



How is this depopulation when immigrants are replacing the gap?

Do you feel silly yet?

LOL, what you mean to say is, people are being replaced race wise by other people.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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and Why do these "indigenous" population collapsing? do you know the reason? OP does not say why.

Please explain if you can.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
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and Why do these "indigenous" population collapsing? do you know the reason? OP does not say why.

Please explain if you can.


All I can gather from this horrific post, is that the person has a problem with people sticking to their own kind. No never mind that people can just fall in love....LOL

This whole things smacks of racism if you haven't figured that out yet.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
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and Why do these "indigenous" population collapsing? do you know the reason? OP does not say why.

Please explain if you can.


A drop in the number of children is demographically associated with a number of factors including living in cities, children no longer being an asset but rather a financial drain, education of women, collapse of religion and no doubt many other factors.

Note, I am not making a judgement in respect of any of those factors, merely pointing out that they are associated , not directly correlated or causal with people having fewer children.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino


A drop in the number of children is demographically associated with a number of factors including living in cities, children no longer being an asset but rather a financial drain, education of women, collapse of religion and no doubt many other factors.

Note, I am not making a judgement in respect of any of those factors, merely pointing out that they are associated , not directly correlated or causal with people having fewer children.




Nice try....your whole post has nothing to do with this, because depopulation is not happening. It's increasing, and you noted that immigrants are taking up the slack.

What's your point, other that racism?



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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OK, i understand that and it make sense, but i just don;t understand why the word "immigrants" is listed in the OP. the whole post would have made sense without involving immigrants.

My question is are you trying to relate immigrants to collapsing indigenous population?



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Sissel

All I can gather from this horrific post, is that the person has a problem with people sticking to their own kind. No never mind that people can just fall in love....LOL

This whole things smacks of racism if you haven't figured that out yet.


Perhaps it is you who has an obsession with race?

To only be able to perceive the reporting of the fact that indigenous women are having too few children to maintain population numbers in a racially charged frame, as you do, would suggest that you are someone obsessed by race.

By the way, my son is of mixed race.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Ok settle down. Maybe there's a reason Caucasians aren't as fertile as immigrants? But you might as well blame it on the welfare system and dirty immigrants eh?



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream

OK, i understand that and it make sense, but i just don;t understand why the word "immigrants" is listed in the OP. the whole post would have made sense without involving immigrants.

My question is are you trying to relate immigrants to collapsing indigenous population?


Because it explains why Western governments are pursuing large scale immigration. To keep up population numbers due to the fact that indigenous populations are not having enough children to maintain numbers.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Putyournamehere
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Ok settle down. Maybe there's a reason Caucasians aren't as fertile as immigrants? But you might as well blame it on the welfare system and dirty immigrants eh?


It is quite fascinating that a number of responses to the OP appear tdesigned to bury any debate about the collapse of indigenous Western populations in a flurry of accusations of racism.

Weird.

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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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This is such a complicated subject with so many factors involved that the easiest thing to say is that "the NWO are depopulating the world!"

The fact is that there are so many issues (political, religious, social, financial etc) at play that pin-pointing any one of them as being more important than any other is impossible.

However, for those who wish to have a glimpse into the whole 'depopulation conspiracy' angle, there is the following:

Let's look at a few passages from Ecoscience, co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich...


Page 837: Compulsory abortions would be legal




Page 786: Single mothers should have their babies taken away by the government; or they could be forced to have abortion



Page 787-8: Mass sterilization of humans though drugs in the water supply is OK as long as it doesnt harm livestock



Page 786-7: The government could control womens reproduction by either sterilizing them or implanting mandatory long-term birth control



Page 838: The kind of people who cause social deterioration can be compelled to not have children



Page 942-3: A Planetary Regime should control the global economy and dictate by force the number of children allowed to be born



Page 917: We will need to surrender national sovereignty to an armed international police force



Read into that what you will.

Not long ago I referred to it as an "underpopulation crisis" and I still stand by that.

I'm currently finishing off a thread on this exact topic, looking more at the seemingly less nefarious aspects and speculating at possible alternative reasonings.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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In effect, Caucasians are not having enough children and they are being replaced with immigrants and their children. Depopulation is a fact. One can only speculate why it isn't even news worthy in the Western press.


If we are being replaced, depopulation is not a fact.

Also, depopulation has a malevolant intent, we just don't want, and have as much children as we used to. It's more of a cultural thing.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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I remember those statement were an "idea" of how to control population, it was nothing about being implemented.

i see it same as "How to cruise the ocean?"

"Boat"
"Ship"
"Diving"
"Swimming"

just suggestions.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Since those figures are per woman, and the ratio is roughly 1:1 male to female, you need a figure over 2 per woman to actually increase the population. Breaking down the race pie, the Op is claiming that mostly immigrants are supporting the population growth. This means that native residents (that is, those born to their country) may be closer to one child per women, or none, and that immigrants will have upwards of two per family to account for those 1.5 - 2+ children-per-woman stats. It made sense to me!

2009 male - female population figures
Italy 29,125,996 30,744,127
Germany 40,285,731 41,880,940
Spain 22,140,032 22,763,627
France 30,311,870 32,030,798
United Kingdom 30,202,183 31,363,239
United States 155,244,097 159,414,683
Japan 61,939,779 65,216,446
Russia 65,096,448 75,777,199
China 698,405,850 647,345,123
Australia 10,584,820 10,708,073

www.geohive.com...

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The other side of the depopulation issue is the eugenics, gmo poisoning, artificially produced natural disasters, pharaceutical addictions, Codex Alimentarius backdoor PoP's, kill off populations at age 65 after their usefulness is over kind of depopulation. It appears this thread is covering regulatory controls, family planning, and other reasonable methods of birth control so far, or should I say birth control, not death control?



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Because it explains why Western governments are pursuing large scale immigration. To keep up population numbers due to the fact that indigenous populations are not having enough children to maintain numbers.


Western governments are not pursuing large scale immigration, in fact, most countries have more or less closed the borders and want less immigration. I also didn't know there was a minimum level of population these countries need to stay above.

Where do you get your info? Are you just making stuff up and speculating? It sure seems like you are.
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