The Jewish Oligarchy: Running and Ruining America

Originally posted by DJW001
. You would also have been banned for hatred directed towards homosexuals, heterosexuals and aliens (both illegal and extraterrestrial).

Doesn't seem that way.

reply to post by filosophia

I can see that you didn't read my post!

The LAST 22 PRESIDENTS were Irish!(except for Roosevelts)

Top that with namby pamby zionists!

reply to post by filosophia

Zi·on·ism (z-nzm)
n. A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.

So it doesn't encompass all Jewish people right? So why do people seem to portray it as such.

Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by filosophia

 

I can see that you didn't read my post!

The LAST 22 PRESIDENTS were Irish!

Top that with namby pamby zionists!

For my own curiosity, can you tell me how they are all Irish? First time I've heard such a thing..

reply to post by Sinny


I actually found this in Wiki while looking for Irish Americans.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by Sinny

Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by filosophia

 

I can see that you didn't read my post!
The LAST 22 PRESIDENTS were Irish!
Top that with namby pamby zionists!

For my own curiosity, can you tell me how they are all Irish? First time I've heard such a thing..

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He's BSing you in that he is implying that 22 presidents were in fact IRISH - this is not true!............just because there might be trace of Irish blood in a particular individual that does NOT mean they were Irish. The post is intentionally mis-worded and was intended to mis-lead.

Please See Here --> American Presidents with Irish Ancestors By Sean Murphy MA

EXCERPT: E.G:

We are reasonably well informed concerning the Irish elements of President Bush's ancestry as a result of the research performed in relation to his father, President George Bush Senior. One of President George W Bush's five times great-grandfathers, William Holliday, was born in Rathfriland, Co Down, about 1755, and died in Kentucky about 1811-12. One of the President's seven times great-grandfathers, William Shannon, was born somewhere in Co Cork about 1730, and died in Pennsylvania in 1784. It has also recently been claimed that on his mother's side, another of the President's ancestors, one William Gault, resident in Tennessee in 1796, may have been born in Co Antrim, but evidence for this is not yet to hand.

The OP needs to be cautious, to be honest I didn't look at the links because I was worried about what sites I would be linked to.

Jews are not a problem. Zionists are a problem. A very clear distinction should be made, always.

The Torah is very clear that a Jewish State (Israel) shall not exist until heavenly redemption has been achieved.

TRUE TORAH JEWS AGAINST ZIONISM - OUR MISSION
The relatively new concept of Zionism began only about one hundred years ago and since that time Torah-true Jewry has steadfastly opposed the Zionist ideology. This struggle is rooted in two convictions:
Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.
Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah centered understanding of our people hood with an armed materialism.
True Torah Jews is dedicated to informing the world and in particular the American public and politicians that all Jews do not support the ideology of the Zionist state called "Israel" which is diametrically opposite to the teachings of traditional Judaism.

We are concerned that the widespread misconception that all Jews support the zionist state and its actions endangers Jews worldwide.

We are NOT politically motivated. We are motivated by our concern for the peace and safety of all people throughout the world including those living in the Zionist state. We support and pray for peace for the people of the Zionist state but have no interest in and do not support the Zionist government.

Jews Against Zionism

reply to post by Vitruvian

He's BSing you in that he is implying that 22 presidents were in fact IRISH - this is not true!............just because there might be trace of Irish blood in a particular individual that does NOT mean they were Irish.

What, in your opinion, would make someone Jewish?

I would like to caveat my post with this...

I personally don't believe that all Jews in Israel are evil. There are Zionist Jews that believe they have achieved Divine Redemption. I'm not Jewish and have only a basic concept of the Jewish Faith, but I personally strongly disagree with Zionism ideology... but that is never a reason to hate. I don't understand how the US got so tangled in the Zionist Government or their Holy War and I would like to see us disentangled from it.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Vitruvian

 

He's BSing you in that he is implying that 22 presidents were in fact IRISH - this is not true!............just because there might be trace of Irish blood in a particular individual that does NOT mean they were Irish.

What, in your opinion, would make someone Jewish?

I'm glad you asked that rather insincere BAITING type question even though I actually prefer talking about the Irish since much of my ancestry is Irish - But I'll give it a go since I once took a course titled "Judaism 101" while I was studying theology in the Seminary. I had to go back and check my notes on that most difficult question - so here goes:

Who Is a Jew?

First we'll tackle the origins of the Words "Jew" and "Judaism"
The original name for the people we now call Jews was Hebrews. The
word "Hebrew" (in Hebrew, "Ivri") is first used in the Torah to
describe Abraham (Gen. 14:13). The word is apparently derived from
the name Eber, one of Abraham's ancestors. Another tradition teaches
that the word comes from the word "eyver," which means "the other
side," referring to the fact that Abraham came from the other side
of the Euphrates, or referring to the fact Abraham was separated
from the other nations morally and spiritually.
Another name used for the people is Children of Israel or
Israelites, which refers to the fact that the people are descendants
of Jacob, who was also called Israel.
The word "Jew" (in Hebrew, "Yehudi") is derived from the name Judah,
which was the name of one of Jacob's twelve sons. Judah was the
ancestor of one of the tribes of Israel, which was named after him.
Likewise, the word Judaism literally means "Judah-ism," that is, the
religion of the Yehudim. Other sources, however, say that the word
"Yehudim" means "People of G-d," because the first three letters of
"Yehudah" are the same as the first three letters of G-d's
four-letter name.
Originally, the term Yehudi referred specifically to members of the
tribe of Judah, as distinguished from the other tribes of Israel.
However, after the death of King Solomon, the nation of Israel was
split into two kingdoms: the kingdom of Judah and the kingdom of
Israel (I Kings 12; II Chronicles 10). After that time, the word
Yehudi could properly be used to describe anyone from the kingdom of
Judah, which included the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, as
well as scattered settlements from other tribes. The most obvious
biblical example of this usage is in Esther 2:5, where Mordecai is
referred to as both a Yehudi and a member of the tribe of Benjamin.
In the 6th century B.C.E., the kingdom of Israel was conquered by
Assyria and the ten tribes were exiled from the land (II Kings 17),
leaving only the tribes in the kingdom of Judah remaining to carry
on Abraham's heritage. These people of the kingdom of Judah were
generally known to themselves and to other nations as Yehudim
(Jews), and that name continues to be used today.
In common speech, the word "Jew" is used to refer to all of the
physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob/Israel, as well as to
the patriarchs Abraham and Isaac and their wives, and the word
"Judaism" is used to refer to their beliefs. Technically, this usage
is inaccurate, just as it is technically inaccurate to use the word
"Indian" to refer to the original inhabitants of the Americas.
However, this technically inaccurate usage is common both within the
Jewish community and outside of it;
In Summation and stated in another way - Who is a Jew?
A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has
gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.
It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what
you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who
has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes
everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and
custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most
liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother
who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a
Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism
is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being
Jewish is like a citizenship.

There is much more .........but I'm getting rather tired of talking about the Jews. I prefer talking about the Zionist's to tell the truth.

reply to post by Vitruvian

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has
gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.
It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what
you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who
has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes
everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and
custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most
liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother
who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a
Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism
is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being
Jewish is like a citizenship.

By this definition, are the people described in the OP Jewish?

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Vitruvian

 

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has
gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.
It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what
you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who
has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes
everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and
custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most
liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother
who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a
Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism
is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being
Jewish is like a citizenship.

By this definition, are the people described in the OP Jewish?

I'm glad you asked that rather insincere BAITING type question AGAIN, even though I actually prefer talking about the Irish since much of my ancestry is Irish - But I'll give it a go - so here goes:

ASK THE OP

Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by filosophia

 

I can see that you didn't read my post!

The LAST 22 PRESIDENTS were Irish!(except for Roosevelts)

Top that with namby pamby zionists!

edit on 26-10-2012 by redbarron626 because: (no reason given)

The presidents are puppets. The majority of federal reserve chairman have been zionists.

Greenspan was fed chairman from 1987 to 2006, and Ben Shalom Bernanke since then, 25 years of banking rule by two jews/zionists/satanists/con artists, whatever.

All jews do not support Zionism . Jews are not bad people but zionists are . Its an open secret

Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by Sinny

 

I actually found this in Wiki while looking for Irish Americans.

en.wikipedia.org...

Oh my God, you're right. And, check this out...

www.thedailybeast.com...

Those damned Irish .... they've taken over our cities.

Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by redbarron626
reply to post by Sinny

 

I actually found this in Wiki while looking for Irish Americans.

en.wikipedia.org...

Oh my God, you're right.

And, check this out...

www.thedailybeast.com...

Those damned Irish .... they've taken over our cities.

I think we could all do with taking a leaf out the Irish book - Luck and Booze!! Bring it on!

Originally posted by Sinny


I think we could all do with takinga leaf uot the Irish book - Luck and Booze!! bring it on!

Jesus, talk about being a bigot in beliefs about a specif origin of people...........

Need I say more?

Actually I'm glad to see that this thread has been hi-jacked by the IRA

In that case if you people insist on praising the Irish in contradistinction to the Zionist Jews here's a good read for you ----> Review of a fantastic book on the Irish and on how they literally SAVED Western culture - (as opposed to destroying it as the Jews have been known to do) go here ---> HOW THE IRISH SAVED CIVILIZATION. THE UNTOLD STORY OF IRELAND'S HEROIC ROLE FROM THE FALL OF ROME TO THE RISE OF MEDIEVAL EUROPE



Opening paragraph(s) of the review

Comments by Bob Corbett
November 2010 2008

I chanced upon this book at a YMCA book fare a couple months ago. I wasn’t sure what it was – a serious book or something humorous, but the title was attractive to this American with Irish roots. It turned out to be a serious book of history, but written with a good deal of wit, cleverness and a strong dose of insouciance, all of which I enjoyed. I found the book to be grippingly interesting, utterly fascinating, good reading despite the seriousness of the ancient history, but much more like a book of essays that a single developed thesis.

The title of the book is also the title of the key and longest essay, and the earlier chapters certainly set the stage for the main thesis, but do come across as separate pieces on their own. I came away from the book delighted with what I had read, but feeling as though I had read several loosely related “set-up” essays which gave richness and detail to the background of the main thesis.

No matter of the structure. It is a delightful read and I recommend it for all. The claim that the Irish “saved civilization” is a bit of a limited claim. It isn’t so much “civilization” that gets saved as a huge portion of the body of literature from Western antiquity that was saved by the patient, if playful, Irish monks, who, from the 6th century onward, copied these texts preserving them for posterity, often becoming the dominant and/or only such texts which survived the Dark and Medieval ages.

The supportive essays trace the conditions that led to the fall of Rome, the role of Augustine of Hippo in developing and preserving a “westernized” Christianity, an early and later history of St. Patrick and his role in establishing the body a somewhat different “Irish Catholicism” and the institutions of the Irish monasteries of the mid 5th century.

Below, more for my memory than anything else, I summarize these various essays.

The book is a great read, I highly recommend it to all.

Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by Sinny


I think we could all do with takinga leaf uot the Irish book - Luck and Booze!! bring it on!

Jesus, talk about being a bigot in beliefs about a specif origin of people...........

Need I say more?

I'M IRISH, NEED I SAY MORE?

Originally posted by Sinny

Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by Sinny


I think we could all do with takinga leaf uot the Irish book - Luck and Booze!! bring it on!

Jesus, talk about being a bigot in beliefs about a specif origin of people...........

Need I say more?

I'M IRISH, NEED I SAY MORE?

My Irish mother married an Italian so I was always referred to as being "Half Irish" as in "half breed," but I have since come to realize that there's no such thing as being 1/2 Irish or 1/2 Italian for that matter.........I also have

JEWISH ancestry

on my Italian side, which allows me 'carte blanche' on comments about the Zionist's generally and about the Jews in particular - despite the censors