Originally posted by WWu777
Why do liberals and politically correct people always seem to deny the genetic factor in human behavior, even though science says that 50 percent of
our personality/behavior comes from our genes? What drives them to be so irrationally against the science of genes and their effect?
Whenever I ask them the following, they get stumped:
Allow me to "unstump" you.
1. If all our behaviors are conditioned, why was I born with a fear of heights ever since I was a toddler?
That's why nobody on earth really thinks that. The Nature vs. Nurture debate has ALWAYS been about which one has GREATER influence in WHICH
CIRCUMSTANCES. Even if it wasn't...your own anecdotal observation doesn't qualify as "research" and is therefore not relevant.
2. Why is there a proven correlation between race and IQ that transcends environment or upbringing?
I've never heard anybody argue against that. Indeed, liberals often point out the vastly higher IQ scores of liberals over conservatives, blue
states over red states, and atheists over "believers". The value of making reasonable conclusions based upon strong correlations is a time-honored
tradition. However, given that we liberals are statistically speaking far more intelligent that conservatives we ALSO realize that for a given
interpretation of this sort of statistical data to be valid, the sample must be random and a substantial deviation from a Normal Distribution is
indicative and evidentiary of improper testing procedure. Thus, when we see a given ethnicity w/ average lower scores across a random sample than
another ethnicity at first glance it appears as though one ethnicity might be "superior" to another. However, when running those same tests in a
random sample which is delineated by a GIVEN, FIXED, PHYSICAL TRAIT which BY DEFINITION CANNOT
be influenced by one's upbringing (such
as race) and we STILL find that the distribution is right-skewed, it absolutely, categorically, and mathematically PROVES
that the test
itself is inherently biased against said ethnicity. To argue against this conclusion is quite literally doesn't "believe" in Algebra. Speaking
strictly in a mathematical sense, the relative probability of you both knowing and understanding this concept in advance of this discussion would be
exponentially higher if you were more intelligent. However, it should be noted that IF this were actually true, then it would be highly unlikely that
we would even be having this conversation since it would be highly improbable that you would be either a conservative or a racist. Specifically, the
mathematical equation which describes these relative probabilities can be found here:
3. Why do adopted children have IQ's that are closer to that of their biological parents than of their adopted parents?
4. Why do fraternal twins separated at birth develop many of the same habits, personalities, choices and names, as studies show?
They don't. Paternal
twins separated at birth are more likely to exhibit these traits. However, in most of the studies which have been done
the twins who were separated were raised in similar circumstances. For example...both of them being adopted by middle class American families.
However, we now know that environmental factors result in certain genes "switching on or off". Thus, we are just now at the very, earliest
beginnings of being able to comprehend how the complex web of "Nature vs. Nurture" affects the genetic code itself. To date, there has not been
really been any studies performed in which paternal twins were separated at birth are raised in environments that are significantly different enough
to necessitate a different set of adaptations for survival/success. However, I would surmise that the day we take a hundred pairs of paternal twins
and raise in suburban America and the other as a ¡Kung! Bushman that we find some rather remarkable differences in their habits, personalities, and
Politically correct liberals can never address these questions. I get no answers from them. Why is that?
Are you sure you just aren't understanding the answers? There is a strong correlation between low IQ's and your political views, after all.
Regardless. I am glad I could finally answer all of these questions for you in a clear, concise, and straight forward manner. Please let me know if
you would like me to review any of the parts that are confusing you, or provide you additional reading materials to get you up to speed on these
I am happy to do so, and a very, very, patient teacher.