Was it a war crime?, page 1

Was it a war crime when the US nuked Hiroshima & Nagasaki?

The Japanese were specifically warned of assured utter devastation. They made no effort to capitulate. The first Bomb was dropped. The Japanese did not tender capitulation.

They were warned of more of the same to follow. They did not respond in a satisfactory manner. They continued to carry out preparations for Homeland Defense while Japanese Naval, Air, and Land Asserts continued hostile action. The Second Bomb was dropped. The Japanese capitulated..

It is my belief that the main reason we dropped the second bomb was because we had two designs of bomb: fat man and little boy, and the military wanted to test both to see which was the 'better' bomb...

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were highly populated cities,so were the surrounding areas plus they were full of of women, children and infants.. these were not vital tactical target sites bombed by the USA there were no bases there for any for munitions..No enemy ships in the harbors or armed forces as far as i know of..

I see no rationale reason for these 2 city's to be destroyed..But maybe it was a smart move on the part of the USA to strengthen the "position at the bargaining table" The Soviet Union didn't have any such bomb yet, so it looks like we had the upper hand at the time so we could have everything our way..


Ive had people say the reason that these bombs were justified, was based on the fact that Truman was forced into a corner that could have led to more deaths for all the countries. He ended the entire war with two bombs and Japan didn't think twice with Pearl Harbor, there were innocent family members there too. The Atomic Bombs wasn't just merely to end the war, it was an American payback...

Did we do this to show the Soviet Union that the United States was the most powerful nation in the world i would think Japan would have known this already...Did the USA do this to prove it to themselves? Then the USSR quickly became a superpower with atomic weapons by the end of the 1940s that brought in the cold war..They didn't want to be under the thumb of the US, anymore than they wanted to be ruled by the Nazis...


I just cant see what we did to the two Japanese cities worth it..all the after effects of radiation poisoning,all the human deformity's,some of them lived suffering,for hours maybe weeks or months before dying being burned alive all over there body's that had to be a horrific site,sure the war ended but at the cost of the destruction of the nation and its people as a whole...I hope we never have another nuclear war.



Do you think Truman made the right decision? Or do you think it could have been handled differently?
Thanks for flying,sugarcookie1

Atomic Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (Real Footage)

reply to post by yourmaker

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yourmaker
It was completely inhumane of US leaders to drop the bombs and kill thousands of civilians who were not a part of the war.But thats just how i feel..peace,sugarcookie1

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Dear sugarcookie1,

I hate the answer. It is because those cities were manufacturing what was used in the war. The military are taught to take out the supply lines, it is the quickest way and best way to take out the military. General Douglas MacArthur was the best at it. His whole plan for the war was to cut the supply lines of the Japanese, they called it island hopping. If you cannot get reinforcements or supplies, then you cease to matter and we go around you thereby conserving our supplies. Manufacturing is much more complicated than is shooting a gun and it takes a lot more to replace your manufacturing base.

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Russia had declared war on Japan as well. Unconditional surrender was not an option for Japan and they would have fought until all of Japans military personal were gone.

But to me it still does not justify dropping a bomb on thousands of civilians ..peace,sugarcookie1

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I dont think it did either. But you have to remember that some of those in the US financed both sides and imported their top scientists to the US after the war. I agree it was not justified and sadly some people live their whole lives without ever being brought to justice.

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Mabey the way to answer the question is to ask the reverse question. What would of happened if the bombs werent dropped. How would the war of ended, and how many lives would be lost in the process of a conventional war to bring Japan to surrender.

reply to post by AQuestion

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Hiroshima was chosen because of its large size, its being "an important army depot"... (a description which nowadays seems to have been exaggerated) and the potential that the bomb would cause greater destruction because the city was surrounded by hills which would have a "focusing effect".peace,sugarcookie

We have been living through a sort of nuclear "war" for the last 60+ years.

2053 Nuclear detonations since Hiroshima and Nagasaki and counting...

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AthlonSavage

Good question one i have no answer for..peace,sugarcookie1

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Rubicant13
Thank you for posting..Im glad you enjoyed the thread..peace,sugarcookie1

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Mamatus
I agree we as humans love to kill it seems.. and war is horrific lets hope it never happens again..peace,sugarcookie1

reply to post by sugarcookie1

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Dear sugarcookie,

This is from Wikipedia, not absolute but of interest.

During World War II, the Second Army and Chugoku Regional Army were headquartered in Hiroshima, and the Army Marine Headquarters was located at Ujina port. The city also had large depots of military supplies, and was a key center for shipping.[

It was a key for shipping, the supply chain. If we truly just wanted to kill people, Tokyo would have made much more sense and we had bombed it during the war. I understand war and am a pacifist; but, trained. My first degree was in History and I studied under the editor for the most famous military history periodical. I am opposed to war and a pacifist. They bombed the cities that they did because they wanted to destroy the supply chain, not people, quantities of people did not matter.

As for the second bomb, they did that because the first did not get the desired effect. The Japanese did not ask to end the war even after the first. We did not have to or want to use both bombs, think about it. Russia would have much more concerned knowing that we still had another that was already made. Using the second did not prove anything other than that we could do it again, even the Japanese did not believe we had more than one, that is why they did not immediately quit the war, they didn't think we could do it twice.

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phroziac
thank you for posting.."Little Boy" happened to weigh 8,000 pounds and contained destructive power equal to 12.5 kilotons of TNT.

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