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Can Islam coexist within a non Islamic world?
Originally posted by Sablicious
ISLAM
Particularly, the coexistence thereof: Is it possible?
Whether it's the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Islam predicated terrorism, subjugation of females within Islam, Islamic intolerance towards LGBT people / "disbelievers" / those of differing faiths, Iranian nuclear antagonism... It seems undeniable that the core question we're all, for one reason or another, eliding to ask is:
Can Islam coexist within a non Islamic world?
The answer seems to be... no. Islam cannot exist peacefully unless it is within an Islamic societal framework. All the current and historical evidence points to the reconciliation of Islam with free-thinking, Western (much less secular) principles as impracticable. Even in non Islamic societies where Islam is present, the 'armistice' is either on tenterhooks, ready at a moment's notice to strike out at the merest perceived impropriety (Europe), or in direct conflict (Burma).
Originally posted by Sablicious
ISLAM
Particularly, the coexistence thereof: Is it possible?
Originally posted by MonkeyFishFrog
Sorry, OP, but I have to disagree with you.
Religions can peacefully coexist. I live in an area where you can find any and all religions and houses of worship within blocks of each other. Even when incidents happen the whole community, no matter what their background, condemns it.
Remember what usually gets shown by the media for any religion are the extremists which is not a fair representation of any person's faith.
Originally posted by babloyi
The OP's question is broken.
Has there ever been two different religious groups or ethnicities that lived together peacefully? Christian-Jew, Christian-Hindu, Hindu-Sikh, Hindu-Muslim, Black-White, White-Hispanic, etc., etc., etc.?
Originally posted by TTAA2012
Originally posted by MonkeyFishFrog
Sorry, OP, but I have to disagree with you.
Religions can peacefully coexist. I live in an area where you can find any and all religions and houses of worship within blocks of each other. Even when incidents happen the whole community, no matter what their background, condemns it.
Remember what usually gets shown by the media for any religion are the extremists which is not a fair representation of any person's faith.
Dearborn Michigan is only 45 minutes from me. Those people don't look like the coexisting type.
They come in and breed like rabbits, have a dozen kids when they can't afford to feed 2 and then the next thing you know, in 10-15 years your own people have become the minority, they get into government and other positions of power and start amending the laws, using your own laws against you to further Islam, such as "freedom of religion" and then by your refusal to allow them to oppress your own religion you are then denying them their religious freedoms, because Islam oppresses and suppresses other religions.
Originally posted by freedomSlave
Originally posted by Sablicious
ISLAM
Particularly, the coexistence thereof: Is it possible?
Whether it's the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Islam predicated terrorism, subjugation of females within Islam, Islamic intolerance towards LGBT people / "disbelievers" / those of differing faiths, Iranian nuclear antagonism... It seems undeniable that the core question we're all, for one reason or another, eliding to ask is:
Can Islam coexist within a non Islamic world?
The answer seems to be... no. Islam cannot exist peacefully unless it is within an Islamic societal framework. All the current and historical evidence points to the reconciliation of Islam with free-thinking, Western (much less secular) principles as impracticable. Even in non Islamic societies where Islam is present, the 'armistice' is either on tenterhooks, ready at a moment's notice to strike out at the merest perceived impropriety (Europe), or in direct conflict (Burma).
uhhh Going out on a limb here but I would assume that you don't know very many Muslim people . The ones I do know from 20 to 50+ are great people very helpful ,community orientated , respectable , honest and that work hard . I am an atheist they know I am and I have never found that to be a problem we respect each other. We do not sit there and argue who is right till we are blue in the face .
Oddly enough the people I do have with forcing the religious debate are the catholic and christians . I have never once in my life had a Muslim people show up at my door on a sunday morning preaching to me about their god like I have lived under a rock all my life . The western religions are nothing to be put up on a pedestal by any means . Some different denominations of the western belief of the bible have been guilty for decades if not centuries for abusing children , another is acceptable to have many wives ( sometimes even as young teenagers ) ) there have been the crusades The list just goes on and on .
It is absolutely astonishing to me that anyone could be an atheist.A lot of people who call themselves atheists are not atheists at all. To be a true atheist one has to deny the very existance of an almighty God. The evidense that God exists is so vast and great that nearly all the world has some type of religeon. That puts the atheists at a very distiguished disadvantage. Their odds of being correct are so small that it is not wise to be in the group at all.
I realize that people who do not believe in Jesus as the one and only true messiah cannot help themselves. If they do not have eyes to see how can it be their fault? It is like condeming a man with no legs because he cannot walk. But God is always fair. Everyone who comes into this life earned their place in it by the way they behaved in the first earth age. However, everyone has the chance to work themselves out of a condemned position in this life. If I was an atheist with no eys ata ll to see or believe God's plan for earth and man I would play the odds from a self preservation mode. I would rather believe in Jesus and take God at his word and find out that it was all fairy tale when I die(I lose nothing) rather than to dis God and find out I was wrong and go to hell. It really is that simple. If you don't have eyes to see the spiritual truth of God's plan of salvation, you would be wise to believe in that plan of salvation and put your trust in it. If you are wrong you lose nothing. If you are right, you save your soul from eternal death. It is a nobrainer. IMO