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National Guard Whistleblower: "Doomsday Preppers Will Be Treated As Terrorists"

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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Not only were weapons confiscated in New Orleans post Katrina by the NG, but they were assisted by the mercenaries of Blackwater.

Another question to be considered in judging the accuracy of this report is whether US troops have ever fired upon US citizens in times before?

Sadly, the answer is yes. The old Brown Shoe Army was fired upon back around 1920 by active Army, of course Kent State was the NG itself, and there are a few other cases such as Ezekial Hernandez, killed by US soldiers in the name of the war on drugs.

So, it can happen. I'm hoping that it won't, but in the hysteria and zeal of the War On Terror, anything is possible.




posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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Dont forget the more recent Waco Massacre, in which the Federal Government wasted countless lives of innocent women and children.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by Swills
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Have you listened to the interview today or did you just read the article before posting?


I'm listening right now. Firstly, I don't believe a word coming out his mouth. He proclaims he got this briefing two weeks ago and he's on duty? The guard doesn't stay "on duty" unless they are on deployment.



Wrong wrong wrong. There are active gaurdsmen and reserve (weekend warriors) gaurdsmen.
Who do you think runs the offices during the week?

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You sit there and spout nonsense like you are an authority on the matter.
You have lost all credibility. Your zeal in attacking AJ after the OP specifically wanted
to focus on Witness X is telling. Telling me you are no better than a shill or disinfo agent.






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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Swills

National Guard Whistleblower: "Doomsday Preppers Will Be Treated As Terrorists"


www.infowars.com

“I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”

So begins the Oath of Enlistment for the U.S. military, but in an explosive interview with a National Guard whistleblower shown below, soldiers are now being advised they will be ordered to break that oath should civil unrest erupt across the country.

Referred to only as “Soldier X” under promise of anonymity, an Army National Guardsman spoke via phone

(visit the link for the full news article)



Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
Prepper on No Fly list escorted off plane

Related Links:
DHS gears up for civil unrest prior to presidential elections

Army manual for re-education camps applies to US citizens

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You know whats amazing.
People claiming AJ is a blowhard, a liar, and a sensationlist.

He has on his show somebody warning that certain people "preppers" are being targetted.
And we have direct & recent evidence that this actually happened,

"Prepper on No Fly list escorted off plane"


When 34-year-old U.S. citizen and Mississippi resident Wade Hicks boarded a military flight to visit his wife, a Navy lieutenant stationed in Okinawa, Japan, he did not think it would be a one-way trip. Stopping off in Hawaii to refuel, upon reboarding the plane, Hicks was quickly escorted back off again by armed guards. He was then taken to a secure interrogation room where Hicks was informed he would not be flying anywhere because he turned up on the no-fly list. Hicks has since been stranded on the island state without a way home. … After being asked to get off the plane, “It started out like something fairly routine,” Hicks said in his interview with Infowars. “About 15-20 minutes later, two heavily armed Air Force security forces guys showed up.” It was then Hicks was told he would not be flying anywhere. There is no indication as to why Hicks was able to first fly from San Francisco to Hawaii without being notified he was supposedly on the list. Seemingly the only “crime” Hicks has committed that would end in revocation of his ability to fly is his affiliation with the Mississippi Preparedness Project, a prepper organization.


What, you people think that AJ set this up?
Even if AJ didnt bring up a whistleblower on this very subject, dont you find this info worrisome?

Yeah, lets not pay attention to AJ and his guests and keep our heads in the sand.
Or, lets lay low and do nothing about this. It will pass all by itself.
Lets act like the Germans when Hitler rose to power and pretend everything is going normal.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by antonia

Originally posted by Swills
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Have you listened to the interview today or did you just read the article before posting?


I'm listening right now. Firstly, I don't believe a word coming out his mouth. He proclaims he got this briefing two weeks ago and he's on duty? The guard doesn't stay "on duty" unless they are on deployment. They are weekend warriors. Secondly, Doomsday preppers? Please. No one I know in the guard has gotten this briefing. If this was going to be nationwide unrest then all of the states would be doing these briefings. Hell, the guard armory is less than 10 miles me from. The only thing they had there was a swap meet in the last two weeks. I like how Jones can"confirm" what his source is saying but he doesn't bother to show that proof.

I get it, the allure of Jones is strong, but you'll get over it one day. I used to take him seriously too.
edit on 25-10-2012 by antonia because: clarity


And jones needs you update his software. I haven't heard this much redbaiting since the end of the coldwar.
edit on 25-10-2012 by antonia because: added a thought


God I cant wait for the STHTF in america and watch it all unfold on TV and laugh



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Semicollegiate
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The 29 Palms Survey publicity happened in conjunction with the Michael New court-martial so it got alot of air time.


When assigned as part of a multi-national peacekeeping mission about to be deployed to Macedonia, Spec-4 New and the other soldiers in his unit were ordered to wear United Nations (U.N.) Helmets and arm bands. New refused the order, contending that it was an illegal order. New's superiors disagreed. Ultimately, so did the court-martial panel. New was found guilty of disobeying a lawful order and sentenced to a bad conduct discharge.
To Obey or Not to Obey

I don't know how often the survey was used.

Did LCDR Cunningham use the statistics from it or was his thesis about something other than what a soldier would do?



Here's a link. His statistics were taken from 3 different scenarios. One of which included US forces being under the command of UN Officers under Presidential Directive-13, later revised as Presidential Directive-25 in 1994. Under which SPC Michael New was brought up on charges for disobeying a lawful order in 1995

oath-keepers.blogspot.com...



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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The revolution will not be televised my friend.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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So I guess thiswould make everyone in Cali a trrorist then and in every other EQ and Volcanic district. And every area with a Nuke plant and Hurricane/Tornado prone areas.

People who have prep Kits and goods stored for natural disasters are still preppers, so I guess the FEMA camps wpuld be pretty full then aye... LOL[

Guess that makes all farmers and producers preppers too, because they have a huge abundance of ready supplies, if needed.

Guess your gubberment consideres all americans terrorists by default.. :
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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Why does Alex Jones always want to blame `the commies` for every type of social engineering conspiracy theory? In order to move society forward, and create a better world for everyone, you must carry out social engineering. Alex himself engages in social engineering with his books, T-shirts and posters. When you are able to change the mindset of society though your arguments, point of view, and proactive pursuit of your agenda that is successful social engineering.

Anyway...

He is making a good point about a government crackdown on people who disagree with the government; but that is nothing new for the US government. It is just that these days, due to advancements in technology, un-fixable financial collapse of capitalism by way of neoliberal economics and extreme paranoia coming from the US gov, the crackdowns are heading in a direction of increasing the chance of major social unrest far beyond what we currently see in the US. Due to the culture of America these crackdowns are going to backfire.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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How can anyone beleive some one who remains anonymous. The credibility of this anonymous person should be question #1. Step out of the shadows and reveal your true idenity. Let all us folks vet you ourselves. Because I for one would'nt beleive Alex Jones if he said there was a 100% chance the sun will come up tomorrow. The mans a hack.

If this NG guy is real. Where are the other NG guys backing up what this "ANONYMOUS" person is saying? NG folks have familys just like all of us. Do you really think our armed forces are gonna turn their rifles in mass toward their fellow citizens? I find that scenario, highly unlikely. How many citizens? 330 million. How many National Guardmens? See the math problem we have here.

Young lady before me said it best. To be prepared and be able to hunker down in your own home for any situation that may arise, is just prudent, logical thinking.
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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Would it have meant more to anybody what this anonymous NG say's.....If he would have been done,say on here (ATS) or any other of the conspiracy sites available .Other than the Alex Jones show? Not as long as he remains anonymous it would not matter.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by openyourmind1262
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Would it have meant more to anybody what this anonymous NG say's.....If he would have been done,say on here (ATS) or any other of the conspiracy sites available .Other than the Alex Jones show? Not as long as he remains anonymous it would not matter.


Soldier X remains anonymous because he is active duty. If his name was given I guarantee you he'd already be brought on charges from the UCMJ. It may surprise you to know sometimes whistle blowers like to have their identities concealed.

So really at this point for you, and many others, is whether you believe Soldier X is a real guardsmen. With most of the attacks being directed at Alex Jones and not so much Soldier X I'm going to assume you guys just flat out don't believe he's really active duty and Alex Jones is staging all of this for ratings.

I do have news for you guys, Alex Jones has a large audience so it's not like he's hurting for ratings. He's does well and just received half a million from his listeners from his money bomb. But oh no, he's making money! Not like Fox, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, RT, Aljazeera, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, AP, Reuters, and the rest of the world are trying to do too or anything


It's great we all are snowflakes, it really is, you guys don't like Alex Jones we all get it,

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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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I dont trust or believe AJ,personally I think he is full of it.
He is all about fear monering and profit.
This video is proof of the BS he has peadled in the past.





All that being said,i've seen him refered to as the "boy who cried or cries" wolf.
Fair enough,most likly true.
BUT,remember how that story ended?
The wolf finally arrived and well you know the rest.

Just like the lottery,even this tool could luck into something real,and not even know it,till its to late.
I wouldnt bet on this having any meritt,but anything is possible.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by Semicollegiate
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Like radiation after WW3, the totalitarianism will be world wide.

You might get an extra generation, say 10 to 20 years, of what we have now down there.

Actually the NWO will probably simply wait until nobody wants to raise children and the birthrate drops to zero.

Could happen in 5 to 10 years with a very high probability of 0 birthrate by 2200.

By then most embryos will be for research and stem cells.


Well its better than nothing.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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I think this story hit the patriots - gasoline sales are taking off ...
I saw two people at the gas station with those large army style gas cans - what the odds of seeing two of those at the same time. and I asked the attendant if he is seeing alot of gas cans and he said it started yesterday.
so quitely people are stocking up gasoline it would appear.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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I don't feel Mr. Jones has much credibility. He seems to be one who gets folks all riled up, much ado about nothing. I'm sure he's raking in the bucks though, laughing all the way to the bank on people's gullibility. I don't think this "Soldier X" is even in the National Guard. Probably someone who is into negative attention seeking. Some people will believe just about anything. You can't fix stupid.



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Want us to stop flaming on Alex Jones? Stop posting such dribble from such a retail slinging hack. I could care how many folks like Alex Jones. I happen to not. I could care how much money Alex Jones makes off people that find his brand of hack entertaining. The man is a blowhard. He's a fear pimp, who earns his living off folks who buy into his dribble. I can't speak for everybody on here, but only myself. If there's more threads involving Alex Jones I will join the thread, and I will unless he's introducing Jesus#2, and there's miracles as proof, still want buy a word the man says.

Going on Alex Jones show to announce the news no matter who you are and what your position in society is, retards your ability to be found as a trustworthy source. IMHO' It;s not the guardman,it's the medium he used to report. IE: Alex Jones
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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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You guys do understand that when info gets into the public the domain the elites have to back off or they wouldlose their credibility, and make guys like Alex Jones credible. They even say it themselves in a number of interviews that they only make things happens when no one is expecting it. The moment some finds out then they have to call it off until another time. That's why things normally don't happen when there are whistle blowers. So u want to make it public so they have to back off.
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posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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As the old saying goes, opinions are like.... and we all got one.

Alex Jones last whistle blower that I'm aware of was former CNN reporter Amber Lyon. What is your opinion of that segment? More crap that doesn't need to be brought to anyone's attention and definitely a waste of time for ATS'ers such as yourself?

But in conclusion, we all get people don't like Alex Jones and those people love nothing more than to disregard the actual information and focus on bashing him. These posts never get old....



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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I have only read about half of this thread but i was expecting some gaurdsman to chime in and back up these claims or state otherwise.
You would think that unless a hush order on this topic is in place then they would have a loud confirmed voice on this topic.

If i have overlooked post that contradict my statements then you have my apologies in advance.





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