Entire Brazilian Tribe Threatens Suicide Over Land Eviction, page 2


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reply posted on 25-10-2012 @ 11:22 PM by pthena
reply to post by JohnPhoenix

Like the USA it seems they set up the government in such a way as to not recognize the rights of the indigenous peoples but rather the rights of the people who steal land from them.

It's interesting that the agency that oversees indigenous rights is called Missionary Indian Council. I found this:
As early as 1511, the crown had placed the Indians under its "protection," and it ordered Sousa to treat them well, as long as they were peaceful, so that they could be converted. Conversion was essential because Portugal's legal claims to Brazil were based on papal bulls requiring Christianization of the Indians.
Brazil - Early Colonization

Brazil became independent from Portugal in the 1820s. The idea of a ruler or pope or government's right to give land away regardless of who lived on the land didn't go away.
Q: Explain who the Confederados are and why they immigrated to Brazil.

The best way to think of it today is some of these war-ravaged countries you see on CNN. Essentially that was Virginia in 1865. The cities and economy were wrecked, people were afraid of what Reconstruction might be like, and some had legal problems. Brazil had been actively recruiting Southerners toward the end of the war based primarily on their advanced agricultural knowledge. That country has a massive interior and people who went received land grants from the Brazilian government.

Story of 'Confederados' inspires writer

So even though the tribe living on the land never had contact with European type people, the land had been given away by someone in a city who never laid eyes on it, to someone arriving from another country.

You are correct. Land property laws begin with a completely invented "right" of somebody to grant land to someone else out from under whoever lives there.
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reply posted on 26-10-2012 @ 12:56 AM by Amanda5
reply to post by Corruption Exposed



Your post is very thought provoking. When will the cabal/illuminati/whatever stop pretending that they own the planet. All divisions are man made - the country borders - the state borders the local government borders - all of it.

The planet was given to all of us - to share. Even as a Child I could not for the life of me work out why human beings were so damn divided.

It seems that every indigenous group of humans has simply - 'been in the way' - of the development of modern society. I am sick of seeing the psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists strip indigenous people of their land and heritage and lifestyle.

As for committing suicide - they are in pain and want the pain to stop - that is a common theme of suicide survivors when expressing themselves in therapy. The indigenous people that are the topic of this thread want help. They are obviously prepared to die rather than submit to the selfish and heartless and dollar greedy psychopaths running the planet. I don't want them to suicide but I fully understand their desperation. They are not stupid they know how messed up the planet is and they just want to retain their lifestyle and dignity without which their lives cease to have meaning.

As for the suicideline link posted within this thread - what good is that to these people? These people need their land and their dignity - not a counsellor telling them that everything will be all right. People need to wake up - everything is not all right and life is not worth living when your freedom, your dignity, your culture and your lifestyle can be wiped out in a single act of greed.

Much Peace...to everyone on this messed up planet...


reply posted on 26-10-2012 @ 03:14 AM by JAK
reply to post by ANOK

Originally posted by ANOK
Who gave anyone the right to own land in the first place?


Cunning use of Flags:



Comedy wins again. :nosmiley:
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reply posted on 26-10-2012 @ 03:21 AM by JohnPhoenix
Originally posted by thomas_
Anyone that wanna help can do so by signing the online petition at avaaz.org

Here is the address for it:

VAMOS IMPEDIR O SUICIDIO COLETIVO DOS ÍNDIOS Guarani-Kaiowá

They need 50.000 signatures.

I already signed, spread the word if you can.


Can you translate this? I tried to with google translate but it says the URL is invalid. I want to know, exactly what is this petition supposed to do?


reply posted on 26-10-2012 @ 05:52 AM by doobydoll
Originally posted by spaceg0at
help is just a phone call away

www.suicidehotlines.com...

Great stuff. Well done.
Now all this tribe have to do is pop into a phone booth in the middle of the jungle and call the Samaritans.

I hope the Brazillian tribes all band together and blow poison darts at any and every developer who invades their homes.
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