Bill Clinton ‘Urging’ Hillary to Release Benghazi Documents...‘Exonerate’ Her, Destroy Obama

"Bill probably likes Obama more then Hillary anyway"

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by JDmOKI

 

Originally posted by JDmOKI
What do you want me to do as an independent voter? Vote for Romney? No thanks.

At a minimum, I would have you NOT vote for the criminal you KNOW you have, verses the one you think you might get.

Out of curiosity, is Romney the only alternative on your ballot??? Likely not.

edit on 25-10-2012 by loam because: (no reason given)

What good would that do? They're all criminals and thugs, and they don't pull the strings anyway. So long as you play there game you lose. You never beat the house. Haven't you gone to a casino?

The only action is complete and total inaction. For that to be relevant you would need a critical mass. People still believe one of them will save us from the tyranny that goes well beyond our own government.

Funny how Hurricane Sandy is barreling in to two important swing states. "Unprecedented" they go on Weather Channel. I have had weather on since I came home an hour ago....I live in NE PA. And it's like Doom Porn on the Weather Channel of all places. "The entire NE is gonna shut down.", No power for millions! You won't be able to vote, or you won't want to....on and on and on. Coincidence? hmmmm.

Originally posted by curiouscanadian777
I don't know why I keep commenting on these threads...I suppose it just BOTHERS me so much to see people arguing about who's lying about the lie they're ALL lying about.
The death of the Ambassador is a direct result of (yet another) unjustified and illegal US/NATO action of invading, overthrowing and causing the assassination of that country's leader, in which the Ambassador was directly involved. Both sides for the most part supported this. They're all to blame-Obama, Hillary, Romney, the Ambassador himself-all and any who supported it.
Same same for Syria and whoever else wants no part of our 'democracy'
They armed/funded/supported the 'rebels'/terrorists to do what they did, and now those same 'rebels'/terrorists in all likelyhood used the same weapons they were provided with to kill the same Ambassador who helped supply them.
Mind# much?!

Libya is in ruins and chaos while they once had the highest standard of living in all of Africa.
There's a video of Hillary cackling about Gaddafi's death - "We came, we saw, he died" cackle cackle. She's not laughing now.

edit on 26-10-2012 by curiouscanadian777 because: correction

I agree with what you've said, but I wish we could know the actual reason help didn't arrive.. I guess we may never know --- aka bay of pigs and Kennedy assasination or 9/11 ..Iraq etc.

What worries me is Romney said he wanted to arm the Syrian rebels but I've seen enough rumors that they're also of the same ilk as the attackers on this embassy.... it's so hard to know what the truth is.....

This thread is so lame. Honestly the Clintons are fully tied it and do what they're told. If they want Hillary eventually in the White House it will happen as long as these guys are running the show. This thread to me is completely irreverent.

reply to post by loam



Like who in the hell is Ed Kline? And how can he know any thing?

That's the problem today and perhaps it's been the problem through out history we're just more aware of it today. Folks, anybody can say anything. It's called freedom of speech. Thank god we got it. But, you've got to remember, just because some goofball says something don't mean it's true, or is connected to reality in any way. This is a typical example. The problem is that people jump on board with outright fabrications and flights of fancy, and base very important decisions and personal philosophies on what is nothing more than an emotional response to an inflammatory falsehood. Now I don't want to get to far afield here but this is a huge problem with our world today. People have always made up stories, told falsehoods, to gain some kind of advantage be it financial or otherwise. Today the effects are multiplied many fold because of the interconnectedness and communication capacity we have. Memes are so easily created, and spread so rapidly, that our perceptions of reality are getting to be very shaky. I know, there are those out there that think this is a good thing, we're into a new period of enlightenment, our world is about to change for the better due to this massive consciousness shift. Bullsh**t. Reality ain't going to change just because you think it dose. Humans are one funny strange ass breed. We ain't special folks. Take my word on this. We are going to end up on the trash heap of extinct experiments like countless life forms before us. and the more we take nonsense, like this to heart, the faster we're going to get there.

Hahaha! Thanks Okyouwin!

"We ain't special folks. Take my word on this. We are going to end up on the trash heap of extinct experiments like countless life forms before us."
I needed that! Really.
I feel like it's good and worthwhile to try to be aware of what's going on around us, the things we're being lied to about or not told, past and present; but, at the same time, ya can't get carried away with it, ya can't let it get to you. I forget this sometimes! Gotta try to keep things in perspective. Find a balance between being willfully ignorant and mindlessly informed, if that makes sense to anyone but me, lol. And we'll never know the full truth, or how much of what we think we know is even true...lol. And how much of it even matters?! It does your head in! Well, mine anyway. What bothers me the most I think is being lied to most of my life about how a lot of things really are, y'know? And that my kid's are being lied to...That the teachers either don't even know what's true, or they are knowingly lying to us...blah blah blah. Like George Carlin said: "...and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care..."
Anyway, thanks for that, and sorry for derailing your thread Loam

I am quoting something I posted on another thread since it fits well in this topic.

Right now I am waiting to see it Hilary takes another, but larger bullet for Obama. I feel doing such is demeaning to all woman. Like they should stand by their man. I really don't think a man would do this.

Something inside me says she is having a difficult time making this decsion. But if she thinks like the average woman, her moral fiber may make the truth come out. Woman really do think differently than men. Hilary, stand up for yourself! Please! For all woman!

But I am now thinking something else. She will damage her reputaion in all history books and tarnish the Clinton family name if she doesn't come clean. Oh and I have a strong hunch that there will be a third revelation about Obama. One he can't escape with coverups (lack of reporting) from the MSM.

Yet another thought? Hilary's lying could damage the future chances of another woman holding a high position in this country.

reply to post by loam


yea its this one thing thats gonna turn the whole damn election around...
wake up, obama is guilty of murder and theft for stealing the lifes of these
people... this is what his foreign policy is based on.
he is making the sky fall right down on us

yuka yuka...

There is no mystery as to the reason they were given no help. Obama's policy of apology and his lie that Al Queda is no longer a threat is why it had to be covered up. His re-election chances would be diminished if America knew the truth, Al Queda is stronger than ever. His policies did not work. Had they bumped up security with Marines/Navy Seals he probably would have gotten a boost since it was on the anniversary of 9/11. Instead the extremely poor decision of smoke and mirrors and assumption that Americans are just plain stupid enough to believe the lies was used. He chose poorly when he surrounded himself with incompetent people. It is very telling when a President has to have people less intelligent than himself around him simply to make him look good. A good President would surround himself with people smarter than himself.

reply to post by loam
Out of every bad situation comes something good. No matter what she does one of them is finished. Obama if she talks and Hillery if she goes down with Obama. They are both the same in there way of thinking, it's just who throws who under the bus.

It could not happen to two nicer people.

You Repubs are a bunch of lemmings - seemingly incapable of analytical thought.

The ONLY sources listed in ANY of these Benghazi stories are "unnamed". Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty are dead, so they can't confirm or deny these reports.

This story 100% unconfirmed by anyone willing to be named, and therefore 100% unreliable - especially during campaign season. There is a reason that no networks other than Fox are crowing about it - it's because the story is most likely a lie to discredit Obama and make his administration look bad.

Remember, this is the network that sued in Florida FOR THE RIGHT TO LIE IN THEIR NEWS BROADCASTS

If anything, you republicans should be pissed off at some campaign hack using dead seals as campaign tools.

Until NAMES OF LIVING PEOPLE are released that can confirm this story - it is bulls&(t

Originally posted by loam

Originally posted by JDmOKI
What do you want me to do as an independent voter? Vote for Romney? No thanks.

At a minimum, I would have you NOT vote for the criminal you KNOW you have, verses the one you think you might get.

Out of curiosity, is Romney the only alternative on your ballot?

i'm going Gary Johnson this election...
even though Romney as CIC would be better than the closet-Muslim Øbama (who intends to "Change" the USA into a Sharia Law following)...i still do not relish the return of the neo-cons and dual citizen zionists back into power... so its a Libertarian vote for me



as for Slick Willy urging Hillary to throw Øbama out to the dust bin of history... it won't work that way

because all these email and hushed refusals to save the embassy personnel that were surrounded by a heavily armed company of AQ related militants in a 'mission house'...

the leaks are just hear-say until the complete 'investigation' is done...
an inquiry/investigation is deliberately being strung out until long AFTER the early voting and the election day vote tally


that's what i immediately thought of when hearing that Hillary might retract her act of 'falling on her sword' to save Øbama...on a news blurb late last (friday 26th) night/evening





BTW: just ran across this , published yesterday

"Clinton won’t leave til successor in place"
By Stephanie McCrummen, Published: October 26


Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has told President Obama that she will stay in office until her successor is confirmed, but said in an interview that “this is not an open-ended kind of time frame.”

www.washingtonpost.com...


so... i guess Hillary is going to distance herself from the clouded lying & misrepresentation the the President has insisted upon since the 1st hours of the 911 Benghazi coverup exercises



ADDITIONAL READING:

Saturday, October 27, 2012

Sacrificed At the Altar Of Obama: CIA Assets Ordered to “Stand Down” During Libya Attacks; Delta Force Spec Ops Waited For Hours For Deployment Order

poorrichards-blog.blogspot.fr...

the newest items that suggest coverup of negligence by the WH

what's the logic here. what did obama gain ?

reply to post by LeatherNLace

Just go vote for Obama and get it over with. There is nothing anyone can say that will make an impact on you.

reply to post by syrinx high priest

He was trying to not have this come out before the election. But others started releasing the info as it should have been. He did not want anyone to know that there could be more terrorists attack expecially on 911 and to Americans.

Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by LeatherNLace

 

This is where we differ, I guess. I am appalled at the lengths this President has gone, in *lying*, outright lying. To all of us, you included. If he lies about this, of such importance....what else is he lying about....How am I to trust him, and his decisions, that affect my life, and Family.

Des

edit on 25-10-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)

He isn't wanting to invade a sovereign nation and claiming they have WMD they don't have or trying to say it was actually the cuban government that carried out the attack and wanting to attack them instead of dealing with the problem.

Comparatively, even if he is lying, it's not like some of the horrendous lies we've endured. Compared to the past administration it would be like saying he only had one bowl of cereal for breakfast when he actually had two.
The minute details would be important to the families of those who were killed, to those in charge of defending other citizens in that area and to those who are actually in that area.

IF he is lying, which I don't think he is, how will that affect our country and us as individuals? Bush's lies DID effect us, a LOT. Heck, Clinton having an affair with Lewinsky didn't really effect us any other than provide political fodder for those who opposed him. If it's not something that pertains to the safety and well being of our country, it isn't something that has to be shared with every single person around and sharing details could do more damage than good if those details fell into the wrong hands such as terrorist organizations wanting to find whatever weak spots they could in security in order to issue another attack.

Hillary is no fool. If she has information of any kind, (which she probably doesn't because this is just some political rumor dreamed up to try to attack with), she's not going to share it until after the election. It's easier to run for POTUS after a two-termed president leaves office than it is to run against an incumbent. If Obama needs to be done away with, she will take care of that after he beats Romney, not use it to hand the election to the other side.

reply to post by PurpleChiten


It is impeachable.....

if he denied the resources and hillary can get it leaked... say her accounts get hacked.... post election...


The Republicans will call for the impeachment.... that makes Biden president...

I can see her strategy here... Biden she sees as weak....


I with ole Bill on this one... she should use it if it exist.... what most people miss here is this...


From the looks of this the O-man has something on her... something major... and Bill does not know it.....

Originally posted by ripcontrol
reply to post by PurpleChiten

 

It is impeachable.....

if he denied the resources and hillary can get it leaked... say her accounts get hacked.... post election...


The Republicans will call for the impeachment.... that makes Biden president...

I can see her strategy here... Biden she sees as weak....


I with ole Bill on this one... she should use it if it exist.... what most people miss here is this...


From the looks of this the O-man has something on her... something major... and Bill does not know it.....

Meh, if bush didn't get impeached after all the horrible things he did, nobody will.... unless of course he has sex with somebody, then of course he'll be impeached

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It is no secret that Bill wants Hillary to run in 2016. Hillary stood by Bill when he was caught cheating. She has been promised the moon and is expecting the moon in 2016. Unfortunately for her they will throw her in the garbage heap in 2016. The Left is too versed in lying to get what they want. Hillary is toast no matter what she does.