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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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The happening continues.
The happening is just happening (the Tao).

What is there to desire when it is known that this is all of it?




posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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The happening continues.
The happening is just happening (the Tao).

What is there to desire when it is known that this is all of it?



Well no desire obviously if all desires become equal then the happening may as well be a person just mediatating, or sleeping or eating (to sustain body)...outside of that there be no wild thing because it provides no more desire than sitting and meditating?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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When one is searching for something the emptiness is avoided. It is feared and the fear is the dis-ease. The fear fills the emptiness. If one goes directly to the feeling of fear and looks at it, the one looking is love. The look of love directed at the fear sees the feeling as pure light.
When one finds oneself as the nothing, the nothingness is found to be love.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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When one finds oneself as the nothing, the nothingness is found to be love.


This statement means the only desire the person will have is No Desire. Be clear here please.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 





The happening continues.
The happening is just happening (the Tao).

What is there to desire when it is known that this is all of it?


Well no desire obviously if all desires become equal then the happening may as well be a person just mediatating, or sleeping or eating (to sustain body)...outside of that there be no wild thing because it provides no more desire than sitting and meditating?



It is all the same - it is just this.
This is what there is.
But this always looks and feels different. The texture of life is felt by the unchanging.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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When one finds oneself as the nothing, the nothingness is found to be love.


This statement means the only desire the person will have is No Desire. Be clear here please.


The only thing worth seeking is the cessation of seeking.
youtu.be...



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:31 AM
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It is all the same - it is just this.
This is what there is.
But this always looks and feels different. The texture of life is felt by the unchanging.



Ok i think you have answer the question now in a way i can interpret in a practical sense applied to living everyday.

Meditation replaces Sex

I just need a yes or no for confimation i am right on this highlight



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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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is this it?

Meditation replaces Sex






im listened to Vid and i understand it. The it and now is all there is. There are no separation of ideas from the now. Its all this now, whats happening now.


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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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is this it?

Meditation replaces Sex



Meditation is the stillness - it is the nothingness, emptiness, the peaceful background - to all appearances.
'Sex' is a word or concept that is in reality, touching, tasting, smelling, hearing and seeing. 'Sex' is really sensation happening in the moment. Sensation is an appearance that is known.

Sensation being known. The appearance is known by the still silent presence (which is meditation).

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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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Meditation is the stillness - it is the nothingness, emptiness, the peaceful background - to all appearances.
'Sex' is a word or concept that is in reality, touching, tasting, smelling, hearing and seeing. 'Sex' is really sensation happening in the moment. Sensation is an appearance that is known.

Sensation being known. The appearance is known by the still silent presence (which is meditation).

Your true nature is meditation - empty of things.


Ok now that i understand. Just seem to be really hard for you to say it for some reason. Not that i have any lifestyle vices to drop so its not going to be hard to follow this. Clarification was important as in real world of course i come across females and i have to understand what the true nature is, a girl flirting is non longer to be seen as an potential invitation but just a form doing a funny shape that has no meaning and let it pass.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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Its 2:40 am.. i need to go sleep all the information you gave me has flooded my brain and made now just want to sleep for several hours.


night
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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"Just seem to be really hard for you to say it for some reason."

What is it i am not saying?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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really, the dalai lama, he's been living off everybody's dime for the last 3 decades.

he comes out with a new book every 3 weeks, doesn't know what a hotel room looks like besides the presidential suite and thinks all air travel includes beds and private bathrooms.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Does spirtual even exist? its an idea in our heads is it not?

Here are three people that died and came back with proof that what they saw was very much real:


George Rodonaia's was assassinated by the KGB and spent three days in a morgue freezer:


"Dr. Rodonaia was killed by the KGB, pronounced dead, taken to the morgue for three days and returned to life during his own autopsy. Dr. Rodonaia was a psychiatric researcher who worked for the KGB and later became a dissident. He was a scientist trained in historical materialism and did not believe in God."

"George Rodonaia underwent one of the most extended cases of a near-death experience ever recorded. Pronounced dead immediately after he was hit by a car in 1976, he was left for three days in the morgue. He did not "return to life" until a doctor began to make an incision in his abdomen as part of an autopsy procedure. Prior to his NDE he worked as a neuropathologist. He was also an avowed atheist. LINK


Four year old met his mother’s miscarried child in Heaven

"Colton, still 4 years old, told his mother “you had a baby die in your tummy didn’t you”, which completely shocked them both because they had never told him about their miscarriage. They asked him how he knew and he said that he met his sister in Heaven and she told him what happened."

"when Colton Burpo was four years he was having surgery in the hospital for a burst appendix. While he was in surgery he apparently had some sort of out of body experience...

Link 1 //// Link 2


"I had to die to learn how to live. I died for 28 minutes, and it was during this death experience that I learned how to live. There is life after death and it is not a place where spirits float around bored being nice. It is a real place."

Death is like getting on a roller coaster (Video)
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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So how does one control the Tao, or what is happening?
If it's just appearances, one should have some control over it?
Pretty much everything I want to happen, the opposite happens, why is this?
I understand. But at the same time, I don't want to do nothing.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ghost375
So how does one control the Tao, or what is happening?

You don't... Religion AKA mind control is designed to control YOU.



Originally posted by Ghost375
Pretty much everything I want to happen, the opposite happens, why is this?

See my sig below... (religion is the "GREAT DECEPTION")



Originally posted by Ghost375
I understand. But at the same time, I don't want to do nothing.

You do NOT need to connect with religion, you need to connect with God.

Religion is the opposite of truth and has a hidden agenda.

Religion does exactly the opposite of what you WANT it to do.


The concept of Lucifer as the “light-bearer” for the purpose of “enlightenment” is also inspired by ancient Egyptian mythology, Roman mythology, Greek mythology, Gnosticism and Western occultism, with a primary focus of the realization of “esoteric” or intuitive knowledge, while being attributed as the true way to salvation of the soul from the impure material world and eventual goal of ascension to the “divine being”.

Likewise, although the name itself or similar terminology of “Lucifer” is not used, this is also the fundamental spiritual belief and foundational premise for most all “Eastern” religions, such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, etc.

The GREAT DECEPTION


Enlightenment is just one of MANY lies that religion will tell you:


Rajneesh admitted, while under the influence of nitrous oxide, that there is no such thing as enlightenment. I cannot confirm this event through other contacts, but I assume Rajneesh was simply stating what U.G. Krishnamurti has said all along; that the storybook fiction we accept of a perfect enlightenment, full of infallible wisdom, is a big lie.

A powerful and expansive state of cosmic consciousness does exist in humans who achieve it, but the way this condition is described by the religious establishment is an egocentric fiction, contrived by spiritual leaders to control the masses for their own personal gain.

Rajneesh's (Osho's) books: Be warned that Rajneesh/Osho used words as a device to influence and control people, and he was not concerned with speaking the truth. In my opinion, less than 25% of what he said was actually fact, and his books belong in the fiction section of bookstores next to Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings. Much of his teachings represented a kind of self-serving spiritual pornography; a mixture of false ancient teachings and his own ambition motivated distortions. At his worst, Rajneesh came out with titles like "The World of Rajneesh and Autobiography of a Spiritually Incorrect Mystic". This is like a primadona television newsman who thinks that he is the news story rather than the important headlines of the day.

Osho, Bhagwan Rajneesh, and the Lost Truth






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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
The Tao cannot be followed.

Which is WHY religion is known as the "GREAT DECEPTION"...

Are you seeking truth? You'll NEVER find it in religion...

Religion is rat poison for the soul - 99% truth, 1% lies.

This is the reason WHY it is actually the most powerful type of mind control and a very masterful piece of brainwashing...

Because it looks, tastes, and smells like the real thing.


pure and utter illuminati BS new age propaganda for the sheeple

This has always been the modus operandi of the Deceiver... Satan's recipe: ? Take 10% truth, 20% probability, 20% possibility and mix with 50% lies... Line a scrying bowl with some snake oil and pour in mixture. Bake over long period of time (preferably generations), and serve to gullable public with some humor and logic. Make sure the container for the 10% truth that was added is hidden or destroyed (preferably)...and enjoy the resulting constipation of the unwary...

Exposing Lies, Myths and Deception



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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What is it i am not saying?


I think it was my sleepy head, you did say everything



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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You do NOT need to connect with religion, you need to connect with God.

I think you misinterpreted what I was saying.....
I don't follow any religion and all I do is try to connect with God....
and it doesn't seem it likes me very much.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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That's why we have to have to courage to be as foolish as is neccessary to really love authentically, while accepting that the joke is on me (I can take it) - but there's nothing predatory in the sharing of this mutuality, and then we know, that universal principals are transcendant where "wisdom must be proven right by her deeds", we know it, not by reason alone, because it is the knowledgte of experience. I see and intuite the hand of God there, reaching out to us, and in so far as we are able to love ourselves and others as we are first loved by God by the very virtue of our inclusion (children of source), we come into a whole new way of understanding, but one that's honest and authentic, with the audacity, and the sense of humor to enter the fray with one's entire being, knowing, to the core, that the universe IS friendly to us, and not holstile, that that's not the nature of things, which is to be harmonious and integrated and reintegrated. If we're not evolving into something better then we're dead in the water, and I am here, sent by God maybe, to stretch out a hand, not to trap you, but to liberate you, so that I too can be liberated with you, together, having already been liberated myself at least in principal by the one who sent me.

"And as the father hath sent me, even so send I you."

It's the omegapoint of the cosmogensis of the noosphere, and we're it!


But is this as GOOD as it GETS?

That dissolved into humor right there, if we can take it, the suffering and the sorrow, all of it, in order to find the place of true and authentic love at sorrow and sufferings end.





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