GOP caught AGAIN engaging in election fraud - caught in the nick of time

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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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Here's the background:

We brought concerns about the purge to the Election Board in February 2012. The [percentage of voters purged]—20%—seemed way too big. We brought forward specific allegations of a pattern of errors in procedures from a worker in the Voter Reg office.

In February, Donna Harris, Director of Voter Reg., assured the Election Board—under penalty of wrong-doing—that her office was following procedures properly.

Recently, Lynn Spevak (Dem), our current Clerk of the Circuit Court and a member of the Election Board, received a call from a would-be voter who discovered she couldn't vote.

Spevak researched the case and quickly discovered that the would-be voter had been purged incorrectly. She asked for the spot check downstate. The spot check confirmed some of the allegations presented in February. It found an 80% error rate.

Donna Harris was appointed to her position by her husband, Keith Harris, acting as chair of the LP County GOP.

Keith Harris is the GOP candidate for Clerk of the Circuit Court—and if elected, would replace Lynn Spevak on our Election Board.

Keith Harris has been on two County-wide ballots while his wife was serving as Voter Reg Director.

If that 80% error rate holds for the entire purge, about 4% were removed correctly. That's in the normal range.
But, about 16% of our voters were purged incorrectly. That's about one in every six voters.


Source and more info:
www.dailykos.com...
www.thenewsdispatch.com...
www.heraldargus.com...


How many more of these stories, from GOPers throwing Dem voter reg form in the bin, before people wake up to the reality of the GOP? Don't forget this:

9 Florida Counties Report Faked Voter Registration Forms From GOP-Backed Firm


A GOP-backed consulting firm may have submitted "hundreds" of faked voter registration forms in Florida, according to the Florida Department of State.

The GOP cut ties with the third party voter registering company Strategic Allied Consultants on Thursday after the Palm Beach County elections supervisor flagged 106 of the firm's registration forms for having similar handwriting, incorrect addresses and incomplete information.

Since then, elections officials in nine Florida counties have unearthed hundreds of possibly fraudulent registration forms..

"I don't subscribe to the theory that this was the action of one single individual who was able to get into more than half a dozen counties from one end of Florida to the other," said Paul Lux, the Okaloosa County Election Supervisor.

The Republican Party of Florida paid Strategic Allied Consultants $1.3 million to register voters starting in July. State party spokesman Brain Burgess said the Republican National Committee asked the state party to hire the consultants and paid for the firm. Before hiring the consulting group, Burgess said Florida Republicans relied solely on volunteers to register voters.


abcnews.go.com...


And on and on and on...
edit on 25-10-2012 by longlostbrother because: (no reason given)




posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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I agree. It's very good they are getting these people in the nick of time. Voter FRAUD is a very serious issue that needs condemned and aggressively pursued by all legal means.

Why.. Look at this one! Such blatant encouragement to commit voter fraud.

"Congressman's son resigns after voter fraud video"


The field director for Virginia Democratic Rep. Jim Moran - his son Patrick Moran - has resigned after being secretly recorded seemingly advising an conservative journalist masquerading as a supporter that utility bills could be used to aid in voter fraud.



"He'll need bills," says Moran. "He'll need something with the name and their address on it." He adds, "they can fake a utility bill with ease, you know?"

Moran later says the person would be better off participating in traditional get-out-the-vote efforts, but he goes on to have a conversation about how to forge documents.
Source

I hope this one being the Son of a running Virginia Democratic Candidate for office doesn't mean he's any less deserving of outrage? I mean, you're not presenting the problem like it's one sided for blame and guilt...are ya?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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dam these stories are really piling up.

they cant continue to dismiss this. this is getting serious



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
dam these stories are really piling up.

they cant continue to dismiss this. this is getting serious


They cry about voter fraud while they do it themselves at the
State level.

They used to do this to women and blacks

Now they do it to whoever... It should be a high crime



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:16 AM
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You must realize that it happens on BOTH sides:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

But consider the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Vote count manipulation, black box voting, "voting requirements" etc. is nothing significant. This is small time hustling compared to the real fraud.

The real voting fraud is the ENTIRE 2-headed 1-Party system. Regardless of who wins, the main agendas move forward despite which Party is in "power".

With the exception of Ron Paul or say Gary Johnson, it makes NO difference which minion of the 2-Party system is elected.

edit on 25-10-2012 by gladtobehere because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:26 AM
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regardless of political stance I suggest it as high treason and those found guilty should be hung in full view of the public. These people sought to take the voice of the people away. Election fraud is real and both sides do it they both dont like to point it out because they are both guilty of it, that's why you rarely see a conviction. If the result was the peoples families are shamed and the people who defrauded the election got hung in front of the public and world it would never happen again



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 04:34 AM
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When one considers that it is a direct attack on the very system our nation is based upon and depends on working as intended just to exist and function, you make a good point there. When people as a whole actually do lose faith in the system, the laws are soon to follow and no recovery before hitting bottom comes after that, IMO.

So, given the true nature and gravity of the offense, it would be one very effective deterrent. As you say as well, totally without regard or consideration of party or family connection. Fraud is Fraud and we're a nation of laws or we aren't. They aren't supposed to come with * and footnotes longer than the law itself.




posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:33 AM
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reply to post by longlostbrother
 
Really?
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posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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I saw on the news that some people in USA got phone calls telling them they didn't have to go and vote but could call in their vote. Also the same news report talked about "scares" in poorer parts of towns. What gives?
As a Swede I just have to ask -
WHAT THA HELL IS GOING ON OVER THERE!?

Is anyone telling the police about this stuff?!

WHAT

THA

HELL!!



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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Last year the ballot machines in Philly had a bunch of Democrat votes on them before the polls opened. This year, as the OP says, some machines have already been caught with Republican votes on them. I'm sure as we get closer to the election there will be many more cases of voter fraud by people from both the Democrats and Republicans. Kinda makes you wonder how much 'gets by' the checkers and how accurate the voting really is ... dead people voting .. illegals voting ... machine fraud ... etc etc



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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them automated voting machines are owned by Bush company i think i read once.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:47 AM
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So we have the voting machines reported that auto-selected Obama no matter who the voter picked. We have the voter intimidation and suppression in Florida that the FBI is investigating where letters are sent (only) to registered Republicans telling them they are ineligible to vote. Democratic Congressman Jim Moran's son was caught on video telling people who to utilize utility bills to commit voter fraud and he (the son) had to resign. I'd say so far the cheating/lying is overwhelmingly on the Democratic side.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by jjkenobi
So we have the voting machines reported that auto-selected Obama no matter who the voter picked. We have the voter intimidation and suppression in Florida that the FBI is investigating where letters are sent (only) to registered Republicans telling them they are ineligible to vote. Democratic Congressman Jim Moran's son was caught on video telling people who to utilize utility bills to commit voter fraud and he (the son) had to resign. I'd say so far the cheating/lying is overwhelmingly on the Democratic side.


Please make your bias less obvious.

There are plenty of videos of Republicans lying to voters on camera and trying to sway their votes or ignore the votes of Dems. There is footage of the RNC removing the voting rights of their own party members. So lets not pretend that the Republicans are innocent - far from it!

BOTH sides seem to be up to shenanigans, BOTH sides are corrupt, BOTH parties are seemingly as bad as each other.

Anyone picking a side and mentioning only one party guilty of fraud are clearly nothing more than political cheer leaders for their own party.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
them automated voting machines are owned by Bush company i think i read once.

Then why were all those democratic votes in Philly stuffed on them in 2008??
BOTH Democrats and Republicans have elements within their parties who cheat. BOTH.



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Because Politics is like gun running playing both sides. Question is who is really running the Poltical Gun running business. ?



posted on Oct, 25 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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The real voting fraud is the ENTIRE 2-headed 1-Party system. Regardless of who wins, the main agendas move forward despite which Party is in "power".




edit on 10/25/2012 by Klassified because: correction



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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it's going on all over
in PR 330,000 puertoricans just lost their right to vote in the upcoming elections
because they did not register or vote in 2008

yep thats how the laws in PR work

the party in power moved heaven and earth to keep them off the rolls claiming that many of them could be imported to vote for opposing parties
and was recently backed by
the 1st circuit of appeals quickly agreed stating the process of clearing them was to onerous so screw em

spanish article www.elnuevodia.com...

google translate:

Quick "no" from Boston

With the ruling left out 330.902 voters excluded from the electoral registerBy Yanira Hernandez Cabiya / yanira.hernandez @ gfrmedia.com

The First Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston ruled last night ordered the Election Commission (EC) a special process that would allow Puerto Ricans vote of 330,000 voters excluded from the electoral register on the grounds that there are "serious problems" to make possible this mechanism.

The decision was made to vote for judges and Jeffrey Howard Lipiz Kermit and dissent of Judge Juan R. Boricua Torruella.

"The panel majority concluded that serious viability problems prevent granting the relief sought by the plaintiffs. Therefore the decision of the district court denying the request for a preliminary injunction is affirmed, "reads the decision came down last night four hours after the parties to present their latest memos.

"The court recognized the level of incompetence of the judge (Hector) Conty and the State Elections Commission and therefore can not provide a remedy despite having violated the rights of some citizens by not allowing them to vote," said Charlie Hernandez, lawyer Myrna Colon Marrero, one of the plaintiffs.

The representative also for the Popular Democratic Party (PPD) stressed that the court recognized the plaintiffs' argument regarding the application of the Puerto Rico Federal law prohibits voters vote to waive that choose not to participate in an election.

"Shame to Puerto Rico to defend the government is that it is incapable. The ineptitude can not be a weapon to attack the rights of citizens, "he said Hernández.

Meanwhile, the Electoral Commissioner New Progressive Party (PNP), World Edwin Rios said he was "extremely pleased" with the outcome of the case.

"This reaffirms that here will decide the election people are entitled," said World Rivers.

The PNP approach was to allow the vote of these 330,000 people opened the possibility of fraud, because it would allow people who do not live on the island or moved in the past three years and were not challenged for being off the charts, could with their vote to decide any of the remaining races in this election.

The PNP also argued that if federal law were to apply in Puerto Rico, would impact only the choice of resident commissioner, who is the only federal position by voting Puerto Ricans.

Boston's decision was taken despite the Carmen Consuelo Vargas federal judge who presided over the evidentiary hearing in San Juan, recommended Wednesday that the vote be allowed according to the plan proposed by Mr. Héctor Luis Acevedo, who suggested that the electors voting on the method of "added by hand."

But the judge warned that the court should order a special process to address the challenge by election day and that such action is prohibited by the new Electoral Code.

To put all the operating functions necessary to ensure these voters vote, Vargas also warned that the decision to Boston should occur today.

In a short essay judges appreciated the detailed and careful with that Judge Vargas presented the findings of the evidentiary hearing. That same judge rejected the request for preliminary injunction when it was originally made by the applicants in September.

The Electoral Law of Puerto Rico provides that an elector who does not participate in a general election is automatically excluded from the electoral lists. The Popular Democratic Party (PPD) had joined the lawsuit initiated two voters by stating that this provision of the law is unconstitutional.

If the appellate court had granted the relief sought by the applicant Colon Marrero, the Election Commission (EC) had had a tight schedule to implement the changes necessary to ensure the vote of 330.902 voters.

Lawyers for the defendant, Jose Nieto representing the Election Commission (EC), Adrian Diaz on behalf of the Puerto Ricans for Puerto Rico Party (PPR) and David Indiano by the New Progressive Party (PNP), insisted until late the court that such inclusion was impossible for the little time that remains until the elections. But above all, the risk that the inclusion of these voters represent to the Puerto Rican purity of the election process.

In a letter that exceeded 10 pages requiring the court, the PNP stated that, even if the court would like to implement the mechanism proposed by Héctor Luis Acevedo, this would not be possible before the short time I have to implement it.

In an appearance before the Hospital Association, the Governor and gubernatorial candidate for the PNP, Luis Fortuño, questioned how it would ensure "that a person who moved to Orlando in recent years, who voted in advance in Orlando, as 25% of Florida voters are going to do, do not come here and vote here too. "

"That's my concern, that here we have to do things correctly, with the more liberal as possible, but do them properly and ensure the purity of the process," Fortuño reiterated at a press conference.

Both the PNP and the PPR agreed that, if the court understood that the National Law Voter Registration (Navora) and the Law to Help American Vote Act (HAVA) applied in Puerto Rico, these would be limited to the position of Resident Commissioner which is the only federal race on the Island

This would imply, however, that the court should order the EEC separate ballots printed for these voters with the resident commissioner race only.

In this regard, referred to the testimony of one of the executives of the company responsible for printing ballots, who said he has enough paper to print new ballots.

Meanwhile, the Popular Democratic Party (PPD) separately proposed that this case should be treated as was done with the uniform federal law for absentee voting citizens abroad.

The president of the EEC, Hector Conty, said in court that this statute, which was put into effect for the first time in Puerto Rico, will allow all military and merchant marine domiciled in the Island will receive four ballots have been provided personally enrolled in a Permanent Registration Board (JIP).

Federalization

The DPP also argued that, to ensure the purity of the process and ensure that their orders are carried out, the appellate court should retain jurisdiction of the case.

But the PNP said that the proposal of the plaintiffs, that the court would leave the development, implementation and monitoring of the remedy to be ordered would "federalize" state elections in the island

Both the PNP and the PPR questioned the need to go into all the complicated process by which voters had a chance to activate during the past three years on several occasions and did not willingly.

"Elections in Puerto Rico are usually decided by fewer than 50,000 votes. Its citizens are not worth the risk that tends to give this remedy. Not when the plaintiffs were not diligent in getting your claim, "reads the motion of the PNP.



edit tom add
while the NPP[pro-statehood party] is currently sucking up to his O-ness
they are traditionally republican
back in the 40's and 50's there were these "republican mobs" that paid late night visits to people voting for other parties
and would attack them with machetes or burn their houses down.
edit on 26-10-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 26 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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The only real outrageous part of this one is he couldn't do basic math in his head. Once you consider the guy asking about it, is saying he intends to vote for 100 different people. Without at once seeing the absurdity of what he is even suggesting.

First to pull it off, would require at least one if not all the poll workers to be in on it. If they don't have that accomplished, it requires the poll workers to not recognize the same guy voting multiple times. It is either that or go to 100 polling centers and then waiting in line. Some of those lines can be hours long. There isn't enough time in the day to do what this guy is proposing. That is the real problem with these so called voting fraud claims. In person voter fraud is a rarity, mainly because it is too time intensive to be worth getting an extra two or three votes in. Most voting misconduct occurs in the registration and and administrative ends of the process. But you will never get the simpletons to understand that.

Even voting absentee isn't as big an issue because they do check that against the in person rolls. For the primary here I watched the BS my mom had to go through because some woman came to the door to register her for an absentee ballot and filed for one against her wishes. The rest of my family was in and done by the time they finally had enough information to let her vote on a provisional.



posted on Oct, 27 2012 @ 03:27 AM
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Very good info thanks!





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